Traverse Via de la Vita - Vevnica - Strug - Ponce
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| klemen8526. 09. 2011 21:05:18 |
Dear all,
malicious, incredulous, boastful and other more or less inappropriate comments by some contribute to deterring many from active participation and sharing experiences from hiked paths. We all lose, as the portal could be better.
Anyway, exception this time: Ridge path Vevnica – High Ponca is not unmarked, true that marks have faded on some sections, protections damaged/destroyed in places (watch torn vertical cables that mislead off path). Path belongs in the category of very demanding marked alpine paths – time-worn ones. Still passable on 24.09.2011 in good weather, basic experience, gear, prudent logic.
Everyone goes at own risk, self-evident.
My opinion.
Safe steps and lpp all!
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| ljubitelj gora26. 09. 2011 21:18:48 |
Hi Klemen
I thought you wouldn't show up here again, it was nice on Saturday on that tour, the path thrilled me and I'm grateful that we did the tour together, as alone I wouldn't have gathered enough courage. I'm already very much looking forward to the new ferrata, as the weather is perfect, if you have any other wish, Austria/Italy, you can tell me, as I also don't have serious partners yet. Thanks LP M.K.
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| nena2526. 09. 2011 21:57:13 |
Hi
A few years ago I did the trip to Vevnica and return via Strug and Ponce, -return is long and I don't want to go that ridge anymore.
Does anyone know how it is from Vevnica to bivouac Tarvisio and down to Zagače and Belopeška lakes??
What about those rusted plaques on the belly wall under the chain? I don't even remember them anymore??.
The only thing left in my memory of the ferrata is that it's phenomenal (if I disregard the return, which I have in bad memory)
Thanks and LP! N!
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| BT8826. 09. 2011 22:08:57 |
Admit it, what do marks help us on this ridge anyway or where do you see the photo that the ridge is marked if the path goes along the ridge, halloooo
Otherwise my way of communication is ok
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| gorenjka126. 09. 2011 23:03:55 |
@nena25: at the rusted plaques on the belly wall under the chain now a new cable is installed so the passage doesn't present a bigger problem
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| nena2527. 09. 2011 11:28:50 |
Thanks for the answer, I found out the bivouac is just further to the right of the climbing to the top
Cheers! N!
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| urbancek27. 09. 2011 20:33:52 |
Today I parked when it got light at the Belopeški Lakes and did this circular tour from Vevnica to Visoka Ponca (I won't add the characteristic word from mountain lovers hehe ). In one other thread I read how all protections are OK on Via... I wouldn't agree, there, when you're still down on the ledges, at two ends the cables are properly pinched (unpleasant, since there's a deep drop below), one I didn't trust at all and I preferred to hold onto the rocks for those few meters. Obviously those, in what I think is the Jalovec thread, didn't look enough, or someone damaged them later. Given how it's talked about, how the path is renovated, it applies only to a few places, but there I can say praiseworthily. Typical Italian half-heartedness . On the crossing the protections are OK only when descending from Vevnica, elsewhere fend for yourself... For me the "royal" tour of this summer season. Time used: 11 hours.
P.S.: The initial chimney seemed the most demanding to me, since due to cold fingers and my free climbing right of that cable I'd almost fly into the depths. But do you climb there right or left, where the cable is? Because where the cable is I had no idea how? Right, I climbed without protection, since you can't clip in??!
In summary: Super!
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| freeskies27. 09. 2011 20:46:19 |
Yes, that's a nice tour. At the entrance to Via della Vita, at the start grab the cable and pull yourself up, feet pushing right and left and go on friction. A bit higher you have a ledge on the left to step on. A bit of bouldering .
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| ljubitelj gora27. 09. 2011 20:51:45 |
I also had a small problem at the beginning.
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| urbancek27. 09. 2011 20:53:56 |
Aha, only on friction yeah, not on it though, since I went right to that rock to climb, and still unsecured... ... So, warm up your fingers well before the entrance, because it'll always be colder now. Cheers!
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| ljubitelj gora27. 09. 2011 20:55:23 |
Where did you go down from Visoka Ponca?
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| urbancek27. 09. 2011 20:59:51 |
Down the normal route, where I went up. It's interesting that at the top you don't even know where this new ferrata comes up... But I saw its entry when descending... Does anyone know anything about it? And if someone writes about the difficulty of this new ferrata to Visoka Ponca... Thanks!
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| ljubitelj gora27. 09. 2011 21:02:51 |
I went down the ferrata from Visoka Ponca and it's newly renovated. I enjoyed it, because ferratas mean a lot to me now but since I don't have company it's harder to conquer them now. I can't tell you much about the difficulty, because everyone perceives difficulty differently; for some even the ascent through Turski žleb is a big problem, what about these ferratas in Italy. From the top, when you look towards the Belopeška lakes, you calm down too, then towards Mangart, as it's trodden. I went first because orientation doesn't give me problems; if you lose the track in a moment you have to stop and look where it goes.
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| freeskies27. 09. 2011 21:27:51 |
Not marked but indicated with cairns and quite visible. Cables are new. Regarding difficulty it's subjective. My opinion is it's not harder than Via della Vite or descent from Vevnica to the notch towards Strug. Well protected and a bit more exposed in two places, otherwise relatively short.
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| ljubitelj gora27. 09. 2011 21:33:31 |
If you looked at it from below then you already know approximately how long/demanding it is.
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| urbancek27. 09. 2011 22:10:16 |
I walked around the top for quite some time, even past that grass patch where there's a faded mark, but when I reached the edge, no sign anywhere... And I'm not some anti-talent for orientation... Otherwise, it would be proper to have descent markers at the top... Are we too spoiled?
This isn't a problem for those coming up it; the problem is for those arriving at the top and who don't know where to descend onto this ferrata. Yes, from the top, hand on heart, it's not well visible, but if you come via it, I believe...
Anyway, freeskies, thanks for the comparisons and explanation! Regards!
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| freeskies27. 09. 2011 22:18:07 |
Urbancek, from the top of Velika Ponca you go around 20 meters towards the second summit, which is a bit lower (say NW direction). At the saddle, the path goes left down for a while on scree. When descending, you see it's quite trodden. After a while, protections start; you also hit one ladder. That part which is really "proper ferrata" is short and actually the lower part of the path.
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| urbancek27. 09. 2011 22:42:46 |
Well, then I went right, but since I didn't see the continuation while admiring the view from that second summit, I chose the "known" variant...
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| JusAvgustin28. 09. 2011 14:35:18 |
very interesting ridge which I haven't managed to traverse yet. probably it'll wait till winter Rateške Ponce-Strug-Vevnica-V at end of špica-Kotova špica-Tamar... Prle states: III- 10-12 hours from Rateške vratica to Kotovo sedlo
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| dprapr28. 09. 2011 18:54:05 |
Yes, JusAvgustin, this variant is more interesting.
I don't know where the III rating is - maybe one spot at descent from Kotova špica where usually abseil is used.
Regards
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