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Great Koritnik/Trogkofel, Rosskofel

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Rok6. 07. 2007 00:00:00
Yesterday I went from the Nassfeld pass (Mokrine) to Togkofel (2279m). I went along path 403 past the Sella di Alp saddle and then on the Austrian side (Uiberlacher Steig - path 413) to the summit. On the more demanding parts of the path, ladders are installed. I descended on the Italian side (Via Ferrata Crete Rosse), this path is even a bit more demanding and more exposed than the Austrian one. Back to the Nassfeld pass I went along the path that leads over the summit of Rosskofel (2204m). The path to the summit is not demanding, but further on the path is quite exposed and unsecured. LP Rok.
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Franci H.7. 07. 2007 00:00:00
Is there a map of the route and to the starting point? I'm interested in this path.
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Rok7. 07. 2007 00:00:00
The route map is Tabacco-018 http://hribi.net/slike1/nassfeld437668.gif To the starting point you go via border crossing Rateče, through Trbiž... in Pontebba turn right following signs "Passo di Pramollo / Nassfeld". More details at http://www.hribi.net/zemljevid.asp
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triglavski11. 10. 2009 20:10:07
Yesterday's forecast for FVG for Carnic Alps was excellent, so Marjeta and I didn't hesitate at all and drove to Pontebba in the morning, from there to Studeno Basso and to Lonice pass (Cason di Lanza). Sky was cloudless and washed as only after rain. From Lonice we head along sirarska path to Di Val Dolce saddle. View to High Tauern wasn't perfect, they were in mists, and snowed quite low, well even on our highest peaks it lightly dusted overnight, in next days more snow and lower. We continue along Carnic traverse eastwards, then turn left under Zottach Kopf, where both had been before, just below saddle right and along Alta Via C.A.I. Pontebbana to summit of Great Koritnik (Creta di Aip - Trogkofel). First some easy climbing, then short ferrata and easy across summit plateau to cross. Views wonderful of course, no frost yet, sun pleasantly warming, so less than an hour on top passed quickly. Followed descent westwards, first along approach path, then descent via Via normale (I.) to lower path and via 439 back to Lonice, where as much visitors as midsummer. Nice, not too long scenic tour with first autumn signs, and still summer remnants. Of course both been on this summit many times.
view towards Zermula1
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again towards Zermula3
View towards Gail Valley4
south side of Zottach Kopf5
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Three Kings of the Julian Alps12
Coglians group13
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bagi14. 06. 2010 20:51:20
The mountain that has no other access than climbing was perfect on Saturday for stretching atrophied limbs after winter sleep nasmeh. For starting point we chose Lonice pass (Cason di Lanza), reached by narrow asphalt road from Pontebba. Road currently drivable without issues, except some harmless potholes from landslide terrain movements.
For access we chose path 439, which took us to selected route - ferrata Crete Rosse. Whole ascent well protected, cables good, no snow in this direction. But can't say the same for desired return via Austrian ferrata direction 413. There unstable rotten snow patches awaited us, so we abandoned that variant and returned via ascent route. After exiting the route return west to Sella di Val Dolca pass. Path 403/458 extremely interesting, runs over older rocks covered with green moss, boggy terrain where army dug trenches for border control and even karst cave carved in meanders shape of nearby stream can be visited. Definitely recommended return path. More in *Mountain descriptions* LP Bagi
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IgorZlodej14. 06. 2010 22:15:51
For Veliki Koritnik the topic was already opened more than a year ago, under the name Trogkofel, which is the Austrian name for the mentioned mountain, so no sense opening new topic. Otherwise there are 4 different routes to the mountain, if counting two variants from Austrian side then 6 routes.
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bagi15. 06. 2010 06:41:48
Igor you are right. Overlooked, because search doesn't offer description under any name. Regarding accesses 3 from Italian side known to me, fourth I don't know, but of these Crete Rosse is best protected, although maybe harder for some.

LP Bagi
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IgorZlodej10. 08. 2010 20:24:06
Again to Veliki Koritnik, this time from Austrian side. With buddy we drive to Tröpolacher Alm, then go towards Rattendorf Alm. Above alm we catch path 416, then at some junction left to path (Klettersteig - Zottach koch), which at least on my map not marked, and not secured path either, but marked direction where partly climbing UIAA I. So without special effort we climb to Zottach koch, where I'm third time, short descent follows, then continue on Via Alta CAI Pontebbana, which I also hiked before, well at some places little climbing needed, protections only at ascent to summit plateau of Veliki Koritnik. Soon at summit, where quite some people this time. To west clouds greyer and when first thunder we all leave summit, we two via secured path Josef Iberlacher (cables completely new, steps old and still raining and rain accompanies us to Tröpolacher Alm. Thanks to good rain protection neither wet, nevertheless at alm we sip short one from lass. Nice circular path, where of course not to fear some descents on ascent and some ascents on descent, and also some easy climbing without protection to master.
Tröpolacher alm, if anyone knows Slovenian name please correct me1
NW wall of Veliki Koritnik is worth admiring2
lots of blueberries in these areas, even growing on tree stumps3
the sign promised but there was nothing4
there was still some hope here5
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at least three nations were represented at the summit of Slovenian name12
dark clouds chased us from the summit13
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Krniške rocks above Mokrine16
back at the starting alpine pasture17
there are many small lakes on Mokrine18
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Majdag1. 07. 2013 15:30:41
...Veliki Koritnik...I can't believe I was there. From Lonice pass /Cason di Lanza/ along nice path to entry in wall - ferrata Crete Rosse. Already view upwards along some gully filled me with respect. But well protected, just foot sometimes searched proper place to pull up. We returned same ferrata. Then continued to Sella di Val Dolce saddle. Interesting path, full of defensive trenches, moss-covered rocks. And views, those were fantastic all time. Along way we viewed also some long cave Grotta di Attila. It was supernasmeh Really my arms hurt a bit today, but it was wonderfulvelik nasmehvelik nasmeh
 - Morning at Lonica Pass1
 - Our goal, somewhat mysterious2
 - Montusel is clearly visible, full of benches3
- Views4
- Preparation for the rock face5
 - Via ferrata6
 - In the wall7
- Pleasure8
 - In the wall9
 - In the wall10
 - On the grassy section of the path, above the via ferrata11
 - Nassfeld - Mokrine12
 - Across the scree towards the summit13
 - Veliki Koritnik - summit14
 - To the Sella di Val Dolce pass15
 - Along the path16
 - Backward view17
 - By the cave18
 - In the cave19
 - The picture says it all20
 - It was nice, it was unique21
 - Well, we're back, ciao22
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gorski svizec21. 09. 2013 21:37:33
Please, can someone give info on conditions on mountains around Nassfeld. How is with snow. Which huts still open for overnight. Is hut at Rudnig alm still open and where branches path to this alm from main road? Also interested in difficulty of Uberlacher path to Trogkofel, is harder than e.g. our Bavski Grintavec? Thanks for info. lp
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VanSims22. 09. 2013 00:18:21
Today I drove through Gailtal valley when going to Cellon. Gartnerkofel and Trogkofel without snow.

Also no snow on Cellon itself (2238 m) and surrounding peaks.
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Irina24. 09. 2013 00:40:29
Probably such sunny and warm days won't be plentiful anymore. Planned trip to Veliki Koritnik from Lonca via ferrata Crete Rosse. Nice ferrata and just when you get the taste for it, it's over.
So as not to repeat, the guides chose descent via the other path no. 416 for the return, which was much more tedious. Route nicely led through natural passages, but with quite a lot of installed material and crumbly. Continued towards Sella di Val Dolce and finished at the hut on Lonca.

The wonderful day offered us divine views and vistas. No trace of any snow anywhere, everything glowed in autumn colors. Only the ski slope on Mokrine spoiled the view with its bare ribs.
... and we headed towards our goal.1
The first were already high in the direction ..... the last were still preparing.2
Snapshot from the rock.3
What a disappointment ... instead of the logbook .... trash.4
The first are already at the top .... the last will just make it.5
Ski slopes on Mokrina.6
Without little roses and ....7
...... some cairns would be missing8
Preparations before the descent along path no. 4169
View back into the wall10
Nature has also taken care of a treat .... blueberries and cranberries11
With pleasant feelings, you look back at the mountain and the traversed path12
Our next goal, on the other side of Lonc, if October is also kind13
Pleasant ending at the hut which is still decorated with greetings to this year's Giro participants ..... 14
.... they even set up a memorial for them. 15
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VanSims23. 05. 2015 15:15:00
Last year in early November on Veliki Koritnik:

http://coolsimsblog.tumblr.com/post/119676318064/likalnik-nad-mokrinami
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bagi9. 07. 2015 17:48:39
Via Alta - less known descent as well as ascent to Veliki Koritnik. This time we ascended it via unsecured path 416 which is not particularly demanding nor exposed. Mostly scrambling first to second grade. We descended via the ridge path Via Alta. This is secured only in the most necessary part in quite vertical and long rock jump, everything else unsecured. The path is not much frequented, characteristic is crumbly rock and countless towers which it bypasses or goes over them. In short ... wilderness nasmeh. If there is snow in the gullies the path is significantly more difficult. For dessert at the end of this ridge path the nearby viewpoint Zottachkopf.
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malimiha15. 07. 2018 07:59:47
8.7.2018 From Nassfeld pass to Veliki Koritnik. Up via ferrata Crete Rosse down via Uiberlacher Steig. Both paths without issues. Fixed protections in good condition.
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ljubitelj gora9. 06. 2019 20:20:41
I drive to Lonice pass (road officially closed) but it's doable. To Veliki Koritnik via path 416. No snow up to the entry and the marked climbing part goes without major issues. Markings are frequent, just lots of scree. No pegs and ropes here. Higher there are snow patches that don't cause issues. So winter gear not needed. After summit I go to the adjacent peak, supposed to be 2m higher, but didn't seem so. Then descend and hesitate where next....ended up on the long path towards Hochwipfel, about 3 hours walk. Some little snow that doesn't cause issues, everything flowed nicely. Views are fantastic. Descended past Cordin Grande alpine pasture. Didn't meet snake, it was warm.
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VanSims21. 09. 2020 09:50:25
As @bagi already wrote - wilderness! Alta Via C.A.I. Pontebba. And I too would warn about the really crumbly rock. Watch what you step on and what you grab with hands!

Unfortunately I had fog so couldn't enjoy its beauty fully (on summit warm and sun). But in my opinion more suitable for ascent than descent. This is the hardest approach to my favorite 'likalnik' above Mokrine, which looks so monolithic from there, but in background it's quite 'shattered' mountain!

Just because of low frequency, hard to find info about the path. This in Italian is the most informative I found: https://supermontifvg.com/2018/08/08/creta-di-aip-alta-via-cai-pontebba/

Access from Lonic pass (Passo di Cason di Lanza): from hut (so other side of road than to Zermula) follow signs to Sella Val Dolce (by the way can check so-called Attila's cave - good headlamp if want to go deeper), from it right to Karnic transversal (Karnischer Höhenweg), but attention: inscription on rock easy to miss. When after next junction the path starts zigzagging up need to watch for inscription 'ALTA VIA C.A.I. PONTEBBA' on rock. There take few steps left off the path (not up into rocks!) and look under feet will see first red-blue mark, then just follow, path well (at start even too much) marked to summit!

Descent: Normal route (short free climbing to I+ down), Uiberlacher steig (partly secured, exposed, otherwise unproblematic if already came via Alta Via), Crette rosse (nicest descent which I chose too, ferrata B/C, short but sweet)

Road to Lonice officially closed, but up there lots of cars, almost all of course went to neighboring Zermula. Road which is being renovated currently not in best condition, but passable, watch one section where asphalt completely gone and just in steeper incline (up with momentum, down carefully)

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rinča1. 07. 2023 08:55:13
After more than ten years I return to the beloved Karnic Alps. This time goals different, choosing more frequented paths and shorter approaches jezik. Drive to Lonice pass. For first goal choose Veliki Koritnik. Follow path 439 past Val Dolce pasture to foot of mountain, there turn right to path 403. Some time on it to poorly marked branch for ferrata Crete Rosse. Ferrata very nice, continuously protected by cable and not too difficult, rock nicely structured. On summit enjoyed views and planning next day nasmeh Returned via normal route, which in last part demanding scrambling with some II grade spots. Path quite equipped, rock compact enough for safe climbing. Continued over Val Dolce saddle and via path 458 to start. Below saddle possible to refill water, at least this time.
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