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| jojoj20. 01. 2016 18:44:45 |
I have to reply to zlatica and apolonija but as soon as I read their comments the window disappeared, so I'll post the reply here:
In short. What is written in the Little Flora of Slovenia applies. When all changes are verified and also confirmed at all instances including DNA analyses, both in the botanical eurozone and in Slovenia itself, it will be visible also in the new Little Flora of Slovenia.
So for Slovenia the official Slovenian names and Latin taxa are those recorded in the currently latest edition of the Little Flora of Slovenia.
So the current official Slovenian names are "still the old ones": alpine calamint Acinos alpinus.
Maybe I went too far in my explanation intending to say that in botany nothing is sealed forever, that things change with new findings. Sorry for my clumsiness. But the information I provided is accurate.
Yes apolonija yes according to the current situation they are also classified in the Little Flora into two different genera. (until DNA analyses finally refute or not).
I hope I was clearer this time.
And let me add that when naming species it's increasingly necessary to know also the old synonyms, so one doesn't get lost in the ever greater flood of names.
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| Apolonija20. 01. 2016 20:16:05 |
.."Maybe I went too far in my explanation intending to say that in botany nothing is sealed forever, that things change with new findings. Sorry for my clumsiness. But the information I provided is accurate...."
For me you didn't go too far at all, because I've experienced many such changes already. Science develops of course and that's right. Local names will continue to be preserved-))).
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| Apolonija21. 01. 2016 10:02:42 |
Dear jo-joj!
You've casually discovered many mistakes and of course it's right that you pointed them out argumentatively.
Here "dwell" passionate hill visitors, flower lovers who photograph them and then struggle in various ways to find their "identity". Without expert help. Then errors can occur that an experienced botanist's eye (or just an experienced eye) sees from afar.
My opinion is that it would be good if an expert "combed through" them. Will you volunteer? Pro bono?
Uninhibited naming. Naming without self-control? Omnipotent naming?
Probably more the result of sometimes laborious searching in various handbooks, desire to find an answer and inability to recognize the mistake.
Once again; An expert could help a lot. My idea of botanists is that they are good, open and warm-hearted people. Am I wrong? smile
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| peter221. 01. 2016 20:46:00 |
Unfortunately, quite a few, even though only amateur botanists themselves, have stopped helping with naming harder-to-identify flowers on this website.
I assume mainly because despite warnings and corrections, the flower names under the pictures still never get corrected  
It's really not right that someone searches for a specific flower and then stumbles upon wrong data on this site.
Before posting dubious species, the photo author should consult experts beforehand, not determine flowers on their own in three days.
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| Apolonija23. 01. 2016 09:22:42 |
The world would be more beautiful:
- if we respected nature together and enjoyed its beauties
- if we were patient with each other
- if we didn't seek power and recognition by humiliating others
- if we generously shared our experiences and knowledge
- if we knew how to praise others and not just criticize
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| Apolonija24. 01. 2016 09:28:56 |
I agree with what you wrote too and add my thoughts:
- well-intentioned criticism is friendly and not condescending
- wants to help the other and is not "egotrip"
- knows to distinguish between individual parts and the whole
- because of individual errors, the whole is not worthless.......
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| zlatica24. 01. 2016 11:19:32 |
Let me add one thought to the topic of the above discussions, which in practical terms is just a call to unite our forces or knowledge and help with identifying plants for those who are just learning, when they find some interesting little flower and who don't have a botanical background or a botanist at hand. And if a person is normal, they will of course gratefully accept this help as new knowledge out of love for flowers, since we shouldn't take this joy as a competition who knows more, but as joy in discovering nature and its beauties. I am and will be grateful to all who have so far been patient with my ignorance and will continue to selflessly give me their knowledge and thus brighten my day. Nice day to all 
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| Apolonija24. 01. 2016 14:46:43 |
Zlatica,
you wrote exactly what I think and feel too. Maybe Peter does too.
Peter, I want to say once again that I was very happy when you helped me discover the name of some unknown fern, some dwarf from Klek. I hope we continue to cooperate
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