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| MountaineerX28. 05. 2017 17:38:09 |
Eternal dilemma, at least for me, is the weight of the backpack and the weight of the clothes themselves, especially in winter time. Since I'm preparing for 2017/2018 ultralight two-day hikes, every gram less comes in handy. In this case I'm interested what, in your opinion, is more useful in our Alps - Crampons or Snowshoes? Thanks and LP 
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| Daaam28. 05. 2017 18:01:16 |
now you really hit the stone..These two pieces of gear are used for different conditions/terrains..Well you should know that if you're doing serious plans..
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| SamoK28. 05. 2017 18:58:38 |
Now it will probably be wrong again if I don't answer friendly to the stupid (what stupid... they haven't found a word for such stupidity yet) question?
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| Daaam28. 05. 2017 19:08:30 |
the most ultrafuckinglight you'll be in shorts, t-shirt and water bottle hanging on belt plus some lasportiva running shoes on feet would be ok. Everything is possible. And don't forget hat if wind blows by chance ..
p.s I'll remove myself from further debate. lp
correction for info: MountaineerX deleted his second message (I won't), so this mine is a bit out of context
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| Branee29. 05. 2017 21:10:48 |
that's like asking what's more useful at a meal, spoon or fork? 
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| MountaineerX30. 05. 2017 09:18:43 |
Seems you didn't grasp the question... But no matter... I thought someone knows statistics and can help... Too bad thanks anyway... Best regards and good luck everyone
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| Smetar30. 05. 2017 09:40:07 |
Statistically definitely crampons (but depends on what kind of snow you'll walk on and of course where you'll go)...
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| turbo30. 05. 2017 09:51:41 |
Crampons are used on hard, frozen snow, where instead of trekking poles you also use an ice axe. Knowing how to handle both should be self-evident.
Snowshoes are used where snow is loose, dry, also wet, rotten, everywhere it sinks deep. Good snowshoes also have some "claws" that prevent slipping when you step on hard frozen snow. Theoretically and often practically you need snowshoes for approach under the mountain and crampons and ice axe for ascent on it. For all winter hikes in our mountains, unless it's dry winter, you need crampons and ice axe. Can be ultralight version too, but some tooth on aluminum crampons can bend on rock and/or ice. Snowshoes not necessary if you're used to breaking trail, but they can come in very handy. If you ski, then instead of snowshoes definitely touring skis, so you don't hike up and down but ski down.
Even if you're the most ultra and most light, no harm in having headlamp, alu foil or better lightweight bivvy bag, in winter also candle (bivvy), spare gloves and hat, some energy bar in ultralight backpack. Lots available in ultralight, but when you put everything you need and sensible reserve, best case you get light, ultra unfortunately off.
Maybe no harm asking some seasoned Himalayan from seventies of last century how to prepare lightest backpack for tour - they know best what every gram (excess) weight on back means!
Statistics otherwise say quite a few get injured due to slipping, others collapse because they took on too demanding feat and third are seriously hypothermic when helicopter takes them, because they went fast & light tour.
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| MountaineerX30. 05. 2017 10:08:48 |
That's what I needed... This will give me some thought... Thanks Smetar and thanks Turbo... hats off... Best regards and thanks again for seriousness pozzz
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