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| msenjur15. 02. 2010 20:10:07 |
So, first off, let me say I'm not some big alpinist or mountaineer. I do easy hikes, nowhere into high mountains (at least not in winter). Well, since most trails are now packed down, some even icy, and feet slip easily, I was thinking of buying these mini crampons, which are pretty popular lately. I read the test
http://www.gore-ljudje.net/novosti/33064/
and the ones from Veriga Lesce seem best to me. IceTrack
http://www.veriga-lesce.si/dereze-za-cevlje/
Just worried the spikes might be too long, and I'd have worse balance, because the spikes are pretty far back into the sole, so sole area is a bit smaller.
This other option is also from Veriga Lesce, just CityTrack model. These have really tiny spikes - 2mm. Saw they have them at Iglu too... some other company...
Third option
http://www.mestne-dereze.com/yaktrax_pro_tekaske_pohodniske_dereze.html
these don't seem that great to me, because that coiled wire probably can't give much grip... or can it?
So, anyone have experience with them, or are you all here the guys with 12+ spike crampons? 
Thanks for replies and best regards!
Matic
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| Lj15. 02. 2010 21:30:59 |
For hiking in mid-mountains in winter on trodden paths 4-spike microspikes suffice for me, I also use IceTrack from Veriga Lesce and they are quite useful if not exactly "live ice" (e.g. as was by stories and pics last week on Nanos - for that they are too soft). But I found out that on whole snow they tend to slip off the boot.
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| msenjur15. 02. 2010 22:10:37 |
you probably mean those that are actually in the middle, or on the heel of the sole, right? See, those were exactly advised against on gore-ljudje.net, because then you only have grip in the middle! yeah sure, and plus the rubber stretches, especially when wet, and then the shoe can dance in them!
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| heinz15. 02. 2010 22:21:06 |
This isn't Mesta.net portal, but HRIBI
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| msenjur15. 02. 2010 22:29:08 |
and what do you think about IceTrack crampons? Anyway, I see another crampons thread went into "urban" crampons, so I found some info there too.
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| tol15. 02. 2010 22:50:17 |
@heinz Why get upset. Such crampons come in handy for packed trails on Blegoš, when everything ices over and it's a real ice rink on the tracks. Otherwise I solve the issue in a much more fun way (shovel or sled under butt and you're down from Blegoš in 15 mins). But true, need to distinguish that this isn't for "serious" mountains.
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| heinz15. 02. 2010 23:41:56 |
 will we learn?
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| Lj16. 02. 2010 08:17:51 |
4-spike mini-crampons go over the middle of the sole and are perfectly sufficient, as "tol" explained, for walking on "smoothed" tracks in mid-mountains. For the same purpose I like Ice Track even more, because the tips are distributed over the whole sole. But don't know why you call them "urban", this winter I saw lots of them in the hills, but never in the city. 
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| msenjur16. 02. 2010 09:15:09 |
yeah I called them that because of heinz and such, so they wouldn't attack me right away that these aren't real crampons etc... And I see on the net they're called city-crampons, so I just called them that...
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| lynx16. 02. 2010 11:49:32 |
IceTrack is good, has helped me several times. They work where real crampons wouldn't grip/penetrate the base due to depth. Plus low weight and easy to put on. In deep trampled snow they can slip off, but there you don't need them anyway.
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| msenjur16. 02. 2010 13:26:56 |
ok yeah... I'll get the icetrack...
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