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| IgorZlodej30. 07. 2010 22:07:35 |
Day before Cozzarello, we went for a warm-up to Chamois Mother. From Jezerska Valley along the road to Viška Planina, from there to Corsi Hut and along the usual path towards Viš. Above Predduh, we turned right onto the Anita Goitan path. In the gully between Chamois Mother and Turn, we scrambled up. Easy climbing or better walking up the gully brought us to the upper green slopes along which we climbed to the summit. The view as always magnificent on the Western Julian Alps. From the top, we descended below the saddle between Ch.M. and Turn, and climbed also to Turn, then descended to the A. Goitan path and along it to the left, back to the start.
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| gasperg2. 08. 2010 17:01:03 |
Igor, since you know these areas well... the path you described is not marked fully, I'm interested how demanding it is orientationally and if from that path one can also reach Divja koza? And also, does the Anita Goitan path go along the entire Žabniška krnica from the Pellarini hut?? Thanks for the answer, greetings!
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| IgorZlodej2. 08. 2010 20:18:32 |
You need to know in which gully to turn upwards; best to read Mihelič's descriptions (Julian Alps). With A. Goitan, it is of course possible to reach Divja koza too; the junction is in the gully right after Mala špica (Inominatto), if going from west to east. Here and there you find a cairn and faded red dots. The Anita Goitan path has no connection with Žabniška krnica; it runs on the south side, namely east of Trbiška škrbina, crosses the south slope of Viš (possible and recommended ascent to Viš of course), descends to Škrbina zadnje špranje (forc. Moses - Mojzesova škrbina runs to Koštrunove špice, and ends at Škrbina prednje špranje (Lavinal del orso)), but it is possible to do it in parts too.
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| IgorZlodej2. 08. 2010 22:44:46 |
Matta, I must add that it is nice to read descriptions of already many times walked paths, but the one asking about Gamsova mati and Divja koza will get completely lost in the multitude of mentions. Ascent from Žabniška krnica with the purpose of ascent to Gamsova mati is senseless for several reasons. First, the path is long; over Žabniška škrbina there are quite some descents above lower Mrzle vode and thus height loss; the path towards Trbiška škrbina is almost gone. Talus fields have erased it completely, and already three years ago I swore never again up that gravel. The old passage is no more or the path is closed (at the top clearly written NO, how it is below I don't know); already at least three, if not four years, a new passage is arranged through some cave, secured and this year freshly marked. Anyway, there was already an extensive debate about it. Via Amalia definitely better up than down; also Findenegg is not recommended for descent, especially not for completely experienced ones; well, that's already in the correction.
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| gasperg2. 08. 2010 22:48:49 |
Thanks to both for the clarifications; you confused me a bit, you matta especially, but I see that no one matches you in knowledge of the western Julijci... Anyway, I hope for ascent to Viš via Anita Goitan path (still don't know where it starts, obviously west of rif. Corsi, path number would be welcome), and Gamsova mati and Divja koza also pull me. From 17.-22.8. I am in Kranjska Gora, and if any of you has a wish to visit "our" western Julijci... nice mountaineering greetings! GG
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| Santi2. 08. 2010 23:00:27 |
Matta, if memory serves, the path to Trbiška škrbina is now routed in the adjacent gully, more to the left from the one where the torn belays are and it is buried with rocks. When descending from Anita Goitan to Trbiška krnica, I went one gully further from that collapsed gully you mention.
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| IgorZlodej2. 08. 2010 23:01:34 |
The A. Goitan path starts at Trbiška Škrbina from the east or at Škrbina Prednje Špranje from the west. Both notches are reachable from Corsi Hut, to there from Jezerska Valley via Viška Planina, Tabacco map 019 or our map Julian Alps - western part, also Slovenian names there.
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| Santi2. 08. 2010 23:14:32 |
Gasperg, if you go via Anita Goitan you'll go from east to west (from Corsi along path 627 right to Trbiška Škrbina then cross left towards west).
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| mirank2. 08. 2010 23:22:26 |
Igor, I'm interested if there is any connection (passage) from Krniška Špica to A. Goitan path. Namely some time ago, when we were on that summit, something like a faded path led to that assumption. Thanks
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| Santi2. 08. 2010 23:48:02 |
Matta, no need to plough, you ski down, close eyes a bit and it goes  . Otherwise I agree with Igor, up that scree even with gun behind me it'd be hard to chase 
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| IgorZlodej3. 08. 2010 07:44:56 |
matta, not meant as categorical refusal, since connections of course exist. If I joke a bit I can say all paths lead to Rome, so also from Žabniška Krnica, but why suffer unnecessarily. Connection also via ŠPŠ to Špranja and along mentioned Carlo Chersi path via Nabojsova Škrbina, also via Mojzesova could scratch through. But I've noticed you like longer approaches, so to speak roundabout. Something similar you did on Terzo Media, I behind you and trip was long and long, I did in one day, you in two. Regarding connection from Krniška Špica which mirank asks, still need to descend a bit along path 625, below there is some path right under wall which I also walked, but only slightly shorter approach to path 627 leading to Trbiška Škrbina.
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| bagi3. 08. 2010 09:27:16 |
Info. The mentioned Cavallieri passage is completely unusable or senseless risk. Already in the upper part, torn cables are visible in the gully, although the descent from there still looks possible. It gets stuck at the end, where over a ~7m overhanging rock jump a metal ladder was attached. That too was overhanging, so it was quite a joy searching for the next rung under the feet. The ladder is destroyed and thus the key point of this path has become impassable.
LP Bagi
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| BT8825. 08. 2010 14:41:14 |
On Sunday traversed the mentioned path Pelarini Viš Anita Goitan Trbiška Škrbinca, first entry where it says NO is passable only with rope or abseil, 5 min further beautiful passage on newly made gully to valley, nothing bad after such tour
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| IgorZlodej29. 08. 2012 19:11:33 |
After ascent to Divja Koza we climbed also to Gamsova mati. Approach via gully and in upper part via scree. View flawless.
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| IgorZlodej16. 07. 2015 18:18:37 |
Jezerska Valley - Viska Pasture - below Kapna Wall and past water intake directly up to preduh and to transverse A. Goitan path. Up gully, no special features, grass slightly damp. Descended back then along north side of Mala Spica and below Divja Koza, down to Corsi for beer. All paths above this hut excellently marked, new direction signs installed.
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