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| ljubitelj gora30. 07. 2012 19:12:21 |
Someone told me at MMP that he spent the night in a bivouac where there were fleas, this year there are also lots of mice and they've settled in the bivouacs, so be careful where you seek shelter before good weather, also the cleanliness of our bivouacs is "poor", even the bivouac under Grintovec...it's missing a hook...shame. But I believe foreigners are to blame for the mess too, various Czechs come and bivouac inside like it's a hut, but the purpose of bivouacs is to seek shelter inside in case of bad weather...gonna have to lock them.
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| francimedved30. 07. 2012 20:23:56 |
Problem is, if bivouacs are locked, how to get inside in case of a thunderstorm. True though that various Czechs occupy them for 14 days straight.
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| merkur30. 07. 2012 21:37:28 |
Lock them? Don't break them! For starters, it'd make sense to indelibly (?) write somewhere visible in all bivouacs that without the bivouac manager's knowledge only one night stay is allowed (say with addition: in the same week). Since there must be a stick too, threaten with fine (hm, probably complicates here?) and "eviction" (again tangle?) ... And then regularly monitor happenings (photograph) ... Often enough. If nothing else, rep of responsible PD should immediately chase out "permanent settlers" visitors. Consistently! No worry, soon "good word" would go to ninth village too (read: also across borders to eastern bros) ... But probably doesn't bother us (and PDs) enough to really act?! 
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| ljubitelj gora30. 07. 2012 21:49:11 |
It doesn't bother me, with this topic I'm just warning that bivouacs have fleas, mice and more... diseases
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| FLEKSARCA30. 07. 2012 22:36:17 |
Come on LG don't beat it again, wipe a bit so fun can return.
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| ljubitelj gora31. 07. 2012 08:39:44 |
You think it's funny, but to the one who picks up some fleas or gets a disease it won't be funny.
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| wolphgang31. 07. 2012 13:04:34 |
oh dear, if some have become such soft urbanites, let them stay in the valley.
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| tol31. 07. 2012 13:15:51 |
Sure LG really has some flowers and on his back anger/contempt of half the forum, but this time he's right...
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| GregorC31. 07. 2012 13:25:37 |
I wouldn't just automatically dump blame on foreigners (esp Czechs). Locals are getting even worse...
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| ljubitelj gora31. 07. 2012 13:47:54 |
How can I be a softie when I'm from the farm and pull calves out of the cow in the middle of the night.
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| Daaam31. 07. 2012 14:27:37 |
Has Liska already laid  
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| VanSims1. 08. 2012 00:37:45 |
Since such creatures usually wallow in dirt and filth, it wouldn't be bad if every user cleaned up a bit after themselves when leaving the bivouac. I don't know how it is with us but abroad there's usually some tool in the bivouac for that purpose, at least there was in Italy where so far I've only once had to overnight in it due to circumstances and in the morning before leaving I also used that tool for the purpose.
Regarding Merkur's suggestions we'd need some legal changes for that too,...Well, maybe the gentlemen at PZS could inquire with e.g. Austrian colleagues why the hell the Czechs don't dare to do that there and introduce appropriate measures here too and/or propose appropriate legal changes that would enable it. But with our musty, bureaucratic and only own interests and profit oriented PZS that's science fiction.
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| Branee1. 08. 2012 07:15:09 |
vansims, that's your "moral" responsibility to clean up every time you use the bivouac.
But it seems to some it comes quite naturally (to leave a pigsty), because they are already pigs at home..
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| wolphgang1. 08. 2012 07:52:03 |
if you're afraid of fleas and rats then go to the mountains with a cat and flea collar.
I don't have these problems.
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| Branee1. 08. 2012 08:24:38 |
wolphgang, no your problems seem much deeper if it doesn't bother you to share a sleeping place with them.
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