They will make bivouacs from waste cans
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| dprapr23. 04. 2024 15:53:03 |
As far as I understand, they'll take the cans back up into the mountains in another form?
Aren't there enough of these bivouacs "for shelter"? I'm really curious how many mountaineers seek refuge in a bivouac for shelter. It would be an interesting statistic.
Don't most cans accumulate in the huts?
Years ago I got an open beer in the Studlhütte under Grossglockner. Why don't they introduce that in frequented huts in our high mountains? Sorry if they've already done it somewhere. I don't usually visit huts. This way they'd greatly limit the number of cans. How many even carry cans in their backpack?
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| turbo23. 04. 2024 16:27:04 |
Recycling raw materials is mostly cool, the idea of a bivouac from a can is in my humble opinion at least interesting, if not welcome. We know what bivouacs are for, primarily for easier execution of demanding and long tours, less as emergency shelter. A can in the backpack is no rarity, on these pages it's often seen that many tie their soul to the mountain top with beer.
If anything, the location of newly built bivouacs might be problematic, as we know what tends to happen if a path to some famous and popular peak passes by the bivouac...
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| dprapr23. 04. 2024 17:19:45 |
I agree on recycling raw materials, but not in a way that this sheet metal is carried into the mountains. There's still a lot of useless iron up there to bring down to the valley.
I don't know if the very visited bivouac under Skuta serves for easier execution of demanding tours. Which ones? It serves everything else.
Also that bivouac Za Akom is just a longer morning walk away from the valley. Someone planning a tour there doesn't really need it.
As already written, bivouacs mainly served climbers due to long public transport to the mountains. Now accesses are faster and more comfortable and mostly doable in one day. Bivouacs are useful for example for those top alpinists who do all three Skala directions in winter in three days. And of course in rare cases for shelter. Mainly those who don't follow weather forecasts and GRS recommendations.
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| Trobec24. 04. 2024 09:12:55 |
The bivouac under Skuta serves everything else mainly because it's "Instagram" shaped. If it were still some "metal box" like the old one, there would be significantly fewer tourists there. 
Otherwise yes, due to easier mobility, improved weather forecasts, bivouacs have somewhat lost their original purpose. Maybe it will increase again with valley closures and wild ripping off with parking fees that spread like an epidemic...
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| jax25. 04. 2024 06:50:40 |
Also that bivouac Za Akom is just a longer morning walk from the valley. Someone planning a tour there doesn't really need it.
It's handy for going climbing in Široka peč.
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| dprapr25. 04. 2024 16:28:01 |
Yes, you shorten the approach by 1 hour.
From the parking at Ingota it's 2 hours to the wall. No more than to the Ojstrica wall. There are still quite a few longer approaches in our mountains. And there are no bivouacs there.
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| turbo25. 04. 2024 16:35:37 |
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| Trobec25. 04. 2024 18:14:59 |
Besides 1 hour of walking, it makes sense to consider the drive too. From a somewhat more distant part of Slovenia it's quickly 2h. Then there's already quite a difference when you have to get up in the morning 
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| dprapr25. 04. 2024 18:44:54 |
When I last wanted to sleep in this bivouac after a tour to Oltarček and wait there for the next day when I went with two others to Široka peč, I quickly changed my mind. The smells from the bivouac deterred me. I rather descended to Hotel Špik, took a nice shower and the next day fresh and rested went up again. The "morning walk" did me good.
When my brother was visiting all two-thousanders in Slovenia, we only overnighted once (bivouac in Dnina) when crossing the Oltar-Škrlatica ridge. All other tours went from home (Maribor) and back in the evening. No problem.
But I understand young climbers for whom overnighting in a bivouac and hanging out is an extra experience. I'll contribute a can for them.
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