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matjaz12. 01. 2010 14:16:46
Is anyone going touring tomorrow? I'm a beginner in this field, so I'd like to join at least at the start of the route for better orientation. Lp Matjaz
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dj122. 01. 2010 15:23:31
I'm also thinking about buying ski touring gear, so can someone advise what all we need for such an endeavor, especially what skis, bindings, boots,... I'm 180 cm tall and weigh 78 kg. I'll be grateful for any advice. Thanks
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kalix2. 01. 2010 17:15:24
Above all, consider: new gear is pig expensive, used can be very very cheap. And for a beginner more than satisfactory. Greetings and good luck
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dj122. 01. 2010 17:22:11
I know gear is very expensive, but what to watch for when buying, ski length, which boots.... been looking for used stuff a while, mostly no luck. Maybe a tip??

Thanks,
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IgorZlodej2. 01. 2010 19:28:52
Of course we'll go on tour, just don't know where yet, in "high" mountains avalanche risk and cold too, so need something sunny.
For used gear check ads, suggest turni-klub-gora or gore-ljudje.net. For new gear any experienced shop can advise, so no purchase issues. Forum helps, but last resort.
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andrejjerina2. 01. 2010 21:15:25
"matjaz1", think Igor already gave you most answer where to look for used touring gear. Fact is everyone praises their own gear, boots,... Try, boots for long time, must "fit" foot.
This year got new Hagans 79€ +6€ shipping from Germany, so findable. Just be "nosy" and persistent. If more, send PM. LP Andrej
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gala9. 02. 2010 18:23:03
For starters, classic skis (a bit wider) work too, length approximately equal to height, bindings must be dedicated for touring skiing. Boots recommended dedicated (can borrow in shops). Don't forget safety gear. LP. MK
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lynx9. 02. 2010 22:11:11
Skins can also be classic and they probably won't bother you, at least if you don't walk long on foot.
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medo*11. 02. 2010 19:56:39
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joža x15. 02. 2010 18:16:52
I'm at the start of the touring alphabet, so a course would come in handy, interested in how it is here.
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medo*15. 02. 2010 20:43:23
Besides the above-mentioned course, others also offer similar e.g.
Freeapproved: http://freeapproved.com/aktualno/tecaj-turnega-smucanja/ and
Lifetrek: http://www.lifetrek.si/smucanje.php?sub=15&id=145 as well as various
mountaineering societies: http://www.pzs.si/index.php?stran=Dogodki
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tol3. 03. 2010 12:57:57
This post on Preverjeno is quite populist and has no great "educational" value...

Pity, as there was a show on RTV Protection from snow avalanches, scheduled twice but given the conditions and victims this year RTV didn't promote it at all...

There is no such show in the archive to watch it calmly when one has time.
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Kriška3. 03. 2010 14:11:40
Yes, yes, but on Preverjeno we could watch and listen to among others the former Triglavski!nasmeh
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sunflower3. 03. 2010 14:12:40
Tol, can you explain in what sense populist?
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matic.m3. 03. 2010 14:29:05
Yes, Triglavski is really the king!!!!
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viharnik3. 03. 2010 15:49:44
I also watched the educational show, of which there should be more in the future, especially at the start of winter and not at the end, when avalanches have already fatally taken some mountaineers.
For safety against avalanches let me say that today's novelties for purchase don't provide complete protection against avalanches at all, but only some % chance of lucky survival. It's known that against larger avalanches we have almost no chance of rescue from avalanches, because they grind and break you on the way down to unrecognizability. Bor from K2 shop also described the event to me in Bobnarjev plaz, when it ground a known alpinist with new deep snow. In any case I think that the guideline for safe touring in proper movement and correct ascent direction is key, together with observing the stability test of the snow cover on the tour.
Bor says that a person-alpinist is foolish twice in his career. Once when young and once when old. How many old top alpinists he lost, because like seasoned cats in much lower, so-called home mountains, they neglected the most basic rules and regulations for safe movement of mountaineers in mountains.
Let me praise Igor in the TV piece as a mountaineer example to all, as well as excellent guide and knower of mountain paths. That ABS doesn't suit him at all. It looked like some scarecrow and unnecessary gimmick in the reflection of his experienced eyes.

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