"Trail marker" using spray paint
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| sppella2. 11. 2011 10:34:02 |
I can't stay silent, I thought my anger would subside, but it hasn't! First Brinova glava, now Zmavcari! Man, don't you get it? Don't you think unmarked paths are unmarked for a reason? There are tons of descriptions and guidebooks and whoever wants to go there will find it without your paint! If you can't remember the path without marking it, it's a sign you don't belong there! Better stay in the valley!
Spela Starc
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| jprim2. 11. 2011 15:57:41 |
speella ...
Did you lose the hooks, but not for laundry.
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| turbo2. 11. 2011 17:20:38 |
I didn't find any roof tile 
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| pohodnik382. 11. 2011 19:24:00 |
but how did he even bother... the path is so well visible (trodden) that even someone like that could go there as if for the first time in the mountains
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| lynx3. 11. 2011 12:17:22 |
horrible!  Anyone up for action, restore to original state? I think usually paint over with gray — probably easier than scratch original.
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| ljubitelj gora3. 11. 2011 12:44:44 |
Such lines also appear between the lower station for Krvavec and the upper station, somewhere in between there are some lines that confuse you a bit, about 4 lines.
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| TejaB3. 11. 2011 13:44:52 |
"Anyone up for action, restore to original? I think usually paint over with gray — probably easier than scratching the original."
I don't know if it's sensible to cover one color with another. Usually it can be scraped off - if on rock, excellently with a wire brush, if on trees, with a special scraper (part of licensed markacists' equipment) - but you need to scrape carefully not to damage the wood.
Sprays usually have quite a short lifespan, so we hope it will wash off by itself soon.
Anyway, awareness, awareness, only that helps. Maybe.
Sometimes someone thinks that with such interventions they help markacists, or that they did good work because maybe markacists were lazy. They don't even know that such marking on their own initiative is strictly forbidden and punishable.
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| neph3. 11. 2011 14:55:46 |
In a similar way someone messed up the once-marked Hojnikova pot to Lanež. Small red dots wouldn't bother me at all, but meter-long arrows somehow don't match the surroundings
The thing looks something like this:
http://nace.si/blog/?p=301
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| GregorC3. 11. 2011 15:16:00 |
Sadly there are more and more such "markacists" everywhere. For restoring to original state I think the best is to let nature do its thing. If we overpaint with say gray, it really is less visible, but overpainted it's still... Paint will fade and disappear sooner or later.
Sadly it's like this, that to punish such daubers you need to catch them in the act, which is practically impossible.
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| lynx3. 11. 2011 20:29:13 |
Well, we'll see how it is at the beginning of summer, since the snow-free season is practically over.
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| JusAvgustin3. 11. 2011 20:38:11 |
Someone marked the path to Kurji vrh like that too. May his hand dry out! Otherwise I wrote a dedication to the markacist in the logbook, which goes something like #&%"!&$#*=&%$#
What surprises me even more is that some "boast" about their achievements. For example on PP 4(Krnica-KV) they write in the logbook "remarked and trimmed again". To them too (there were two!) I left a notice in the form of skulls and exclamation marks
Is the concept of pathless still relevant at all?!
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| VanSims7. 11. 2011 15:41:11 |
Can't that also come off with a cleaner like they use for graffiti removal?
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| bostjanp8. 11. 2011 20:03:31 |
Once in the past I met two policemen on Savinjsko sedlo in mountain gear, with all police gear on the belt and pistol, except baton. They were observing compliance of hikers' mountain equipment and warning those going up in flip-flops. They said they'd make order in the mountains, but little came of it. Shame. Such self-proclaimed markers should be severely punished, e.g. 50,000€, because human life has no price and that might even be too low a fine. Like that, as a warning to other "smart alecks" who think mountains are a joke. Imagine someone falls for it and goes on the path, and God forbid something happens. He won't even be able to tell rescuers where the poor guy went. God forbid I see someone doing this in the mountains There's a stick growing for every ass and these will feel it too.
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| Okmodko16. 11. 2011 15:45:23 |
Interesting. And that last sentence of the article made me think. So I'd most gladly suggest to the moderator to delete the path descriptions from the forum that are written as unmarked paths, that way maybe helping preserve the wilderness of our mountains. And let such paths remain for chamois and locals. Well, that's a tough decision but worth considering.
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