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| keber120. 07. 2011 18:15:17 |
Yesterday I went via ferrata from the Austrian side to Stol (which is normally passable). And when I reach the border ridge, I see this stupid sign (in the attached picture). I know these signs are everywhere in the Karawanks, but why do these signs still have to stand there? Why can the Austrians just a meter away on the ridge put up much more appropriate signs to individual targets in the area instead of this completely irrelevant notice? Is it still the old Yugoslav mentality here that no one would escape to the bright west? I told myself that next time I go on this ferrata, I'll take a key with me and remove this nonsense. But I'm almost sure that I would probably commit some criminal offense of high treason or something similar. And I thought borders had fallen. If nothing else, PZS could say something (which I doubt, since no smart actions are expected from them).
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| GregorC20. 07. 2011 18:26:32 |
Borders are still there, just no border controls anymore.
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| @rekar20. 07. 2011 20:49:35 |
This is part of our history. An SFRJ mark can still be found on some border stone.
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| Lunca20. 07. 2011 22:18:04 |
I agree with the previous one... this is simply our history, I don't know why we would remove it
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| keber120. 07. 2011 22:29:10 |
A border stone is one thing, a warning sign in the style of "danger ahead" is another. If Italians and Austrians don't need them anymore, I don't know why we should insist on them. We are also demolishing buildings at former crossings (slowly, but Ljubelj is a good example), and there are no "Caution!" signs on roads. Why then on mountain trails, where the border between states is meaningless today.
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| FLEKSARCA20. 07. 2011 22:33:22 |
Keber got mixed up because of booze, now Keber has gone mad even over border signs .
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| keber120. 07. 2011 22:41:20 |
Looks like Slovenian bigotry has no borders.
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| VanSims20. 07. 2011 23:11:17 |
keber1: >>>Told myself next time on this ferrata I'll bring a wrench and remove that stupidity.<<< Obviously someone already did it on nearby Belščica as only the frame was left when I passed by 
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| klm21. 07. 2011 07:20:02 |
From 21.12.2007 you can cross the border just with ID, as we have been in Schengen since then. Along the SLO-AUT border there are still plenty of such signs and they will stay for the foreseeable future, maybe as long as the old A-YU stones. Anyway: you have the key, unscrew and take the sign as a souvenir or sell it at a flea market...
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| Karletto21. 07. 2011 08:42:52 |
This sign in the picture looks brand new, so it will probably be there for a few more years. On the Italian border, however, our neighbors have already removed quite a few signs, especially on agricultural areas or places where agro-melioration is carried out.
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| ljubitelj gora21. 07. 2011 09:06:07 |
Yeah, this sign has to be there so at least you know where you are, whether at home or abroad.
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| julius21. 07. 2011 09:54:14 |
The signs must stay!!! EU will soon go to pieces and our "good" neighbors will show old appetites again. Don't forget, history repeats itself. About how we treat our land, I'd rather not talk. We've traded homeland consciousness for a few whites.
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| miri21. 07. 2011 10:26:37 |
@julius You have at least one like-minded person.
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| turbo21. 07. 2011 12:36:54 |
We joined Austria-Hungary and it fell apart. We joined the first Yugoslavia (SHS) and it fell apart too. We joined the second Yugoslavia (SFRJ) and that fell apart too. We joined the EU and look at that, it's also cracking at the seams And if the EU really "falls apart", I suggest a referendum to become a US state . . . so Americans see what it means, just 2 million population 
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| prokofjev_21. 07. 2011 13:32:52 |
We'd make them so expensive that even the Indians would get encouraged again
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| @rekar21. 07. 2011 15:03:40 |
@keber1 Since you mentioned Ljubelj, I'll tell you something? When they were demolishing the border crossing, someone asked me when the Austrians would start demolishing the building, and I replied, oh no, they won't demolish it but we'll have to build a new one back.
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| klm21. 07. 2011 20:14:45 |
we joined Austria-Hungary!?! Please, everyone finished elementary school, we know we couldn't join Austria-Hungary...same s... as claiming Trieste is ours....it never was...and even if EU falls apart, it lost its integrity and basic idea already with the entry of new members in 2004...we know who joined then...but here power of capital, namely Italians are buying land en masse in Posoško and Karst countryside...that could be interpreted as imperialism, but whoever understands history a bit would know that nations, tribal unions etc. existed in the past, even for centuries, and then others subjugated them, completely assimilated etc....it's just an evolutionary process of a certain genesis.
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| turbo22. 07. 2011 05:31:51 |
klm, Austria-Hungary etc. was meant "in a figurative sense". The rest you wrote holds true....
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