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Za Cmirom

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Bojan285728. 05. 2011 11:18:05
Hi. Probably I'm not the only one who doesn't feel like going back to the valley over Prag, so I'm interested what the path behind Cmira is like, they say it's the shortest descent back down to Vrata. Thanks for the information and best regards
Bojan
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viharnik28. 05. 2011 11:31:32
The shortest descent to Vrata by time is still the path Over Prag. When the path is snowy it's good to use the path Behind Cmira, which is easier by gradient, but descent still takes longer than from Prag. From the thick log, when the path swings downward for Behind Cmira you need to know the right passage to the lower screes before the forest line. The path behind Cmira is highly valued among mountaineers for its scenic beauty and rare visitation, who seek more in mountains than just reaching the summit.
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Jonny_13. 05. 2014 20:06:59
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Bandzo14. 05. 2014 08:38:59
Super!
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jedriličar13. 04. 2015 13:40:53
Adding a few more pics from Sunday descent Za Cmirom ... day was for screaming, but we only met three who went up on skis ...zmeden
Sunday morning at Kredarica, dilemma: do we go up or go down right away?1
So we turned towards Stanič, as at seven it was zero degrees at Kredarica...2
Miler's chimney will wait until next year ...3
Begunjski vrh4
Lower Vrbanova špica5
Staničev dom, zadaj Rž6
Ridge towards Cmir, Martuljške gore in the background7
This valley needs .... behind Cmir8
In the upper part of the valley behind Cmir it didn't sink so much ...9
Lower down it was ... up to the balls or more ...10
Dolkova špica, Škrlatica, Rokavi11
Dovški križ, ridge towards Škrnatarica, Kukova špica12
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radagremvhribe13. 04. 2015 14:42:50
nice pics and very nice captions!!!
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misace17. 12. 2016 09:46:22
yesterday morning, compact snow from 1800 m, some old tracks towards Cmir and Staničevi.
http://pnr.ma/ahUHFg
left Kepa right Stol1
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from that saddle in the middle3
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j.18. 04. 2019 16:43:33
Yesterday, 17.04.2019. I went for a bit of a test run. I carried the skis up the snow tongues to around 1400 m (where the densest scrub ends). I continued with crampons, which were mostly unnecessary and even superfluous due to rare shady spots, but where it was steep and frozen, it would have been nasty without them. In the last 200 or 300 elevation meters below the Za Cmirom valley, a completely new avalanche covered the ski tracks that the predecessors had carved the day before.

Breaking through in zigzags over the avalanche debris and on slippery flat sections between deposited snow was exhausting; the hot sun contributed its share. From Cmir, a smaller avalanche slid once or twice, which is completely different from the previous day, when a group of ski tourers reported constant avalanches flying over that wall. Only once later, already during the descent, I heard strong rumbling from the Vrata valley somewhere, which lasted at least a minute.

In the Za Cmirom valley, at around 2100 m, I ended the ascent. In this lonely end of the world that day, I sat for about 10 minutes. In the purest silence, even without wind, such as one rarely experiences. Only here and there could one hear the distant chirp of some bird.

The skiing was not exactly ideal. Of course, it was not possible over the avalanche debris under Cmir; under the walls of Vrbanove špice, crust and hard snow alternated in places. It was best on the central sunlit spots with light crust and mostly settled and reworked snow, which at moments offered opportunities for nice turns. Down the snow tongues, with occasional stone bombs, I skied to approximately 1300 m, then another half hour on foot to the car.

There is still a huge amount of snow above 2000 m in the Julijci, real winter. For carefree skiing, it feels a bit under-processed; this will surely change in the next few days. After that, it will of course start disappearing even at these elevations.

It was a nice day!

Path markings Planica - Pokljuka, a nice project from bygone times.1
Barely skiable snow begins where the dense scree ends (1400m).2
Between 1500 and 1600 meters there was already quite a bit of snow.3
Avalanche debris below the walls of Cmir.4
In the snow chute scoured by avalanche, skis slide awkwardly.5
Za Cmirom hollow, Begunjski vrh in the middle.6
Beneath the crags of Vrbanove špice, untouched whiteness.7
In the distance Kepa, snow above 2000 m will remain a while longer.8
At times slightly crusted snow allowed for really nice turns.9
Below Cmirom there was a large avalanche deposit, skiing there would be difficult.10
Snow tongues reached down to about 1300 m.11
End of skiing in the hot sun.12
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mikkeni2. 11. 2024 10:42:16
to Triglav via Prag and return via pathless terrain behind Cmirom, alternative descent to the starting point in Vrata. Parking free.

https://ma-uc.blogspot.com/2024/11/triglav.html
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