Vršič - Prisank / Prisojnik (Kopiščarjeva pot)
Starting point: Vršič (1611 m)
| Latitude/Longitude: | 46,4336°N 13,7435°E |
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Route name: Kopiščarjeva pot
Walking time: 3 h 50 min
Difficulty: very difficult marked way
Via ferrata: B/C
Elevation gain: 936 m
Elevation difference along the route: 1025 m
Map: Triglav 1:25.000
Recommended equipment (summer): helmet, self belay set
Recommended equipment (winter): helmet, self belay set, ice axe, crampons
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Access to starting point:
From Kranjska Gora we drive towards Bovec or vice versa, but only as far as the Vršič pass, where we park.
Route description:
From the parking lot we head to the road in the direction of Trenta and at the end of the parking lot we arrive at a small crossroads, where we continue left on the side road, which after a short ascent brings us to Tičarjev dom na Vršiču.
From Tičarjev dom we continue along the macadam road next to which there are signs for Poštarski dom and along which we begin to ascend moderately through scenic slopes. With a view of the surrounding peaks, we quickly arrive at a marked junction.
At the junction we follow the signs »Prisojnik (through the window)«. The path ahead first begins to descend a little and starts crossing the slope towards the walls of Prisank. From the left the path from Erjavčeva koča then joins us, a little before entering the climbing part of the path the path from Sovna glava also joins from the right.
Already at the beginning of the climbing part of the path it becomes clear that this path is not for everyone. The path first crosses the wall to the left along a steel cable, then turns right steeply upwards. For quite some time we then ascend steeply with the help of steel cables and numerous pitons. The slope then becomes gentler and after a short ascent through dwarf pines a wonderful view towards Ajdovska deklica opens up. The path here turns slightly to the right and begins to ascend somewhat steeper again along a rocky slope. Occasionally we are helped by some bolts and steel cables. This is followed by crossing to the left and soon we are in front of the entry into the most difficult part of the path. In front of us is a 15-meter-high chimney. With the help of numerous pitons we begin to climb the chimney, which is overhanging in some places. This is followed by climbing on pitons through such a narrow passage that we have to take off our backpack and push it in front of us. We continue to ascend steeply along the steel cable and then reach somewhat less steep slopes, which bring us to a junction, where the path from Koča na Gozdu joins us from the left.
We continue slightly to the right upwards and some easier climbing follows along broken rock, mostly without protection. Soon we will see Prednje okno v Prisanku on the right side. When ascending towards the window we must be quite careful as the path is quite crumbly and full of scree. In early summer there is also still snow here.
From the window we then climb steeply upwards with the help of numerous pitons and then join the Ridge path on Prisank. At the junction we continue to the left, however all difficulties are not over yet. The path turns left and ascends along a somewhat exposed slope along a steel cable towards the ridge. Walking along the ridge is then somewhat easier, but at some places still quite exposed. Later the Slovenian and Jubilee paths join us from the right. Then there is only a short ascent and soon we reach the very panoramic summit.
Kopiščarjeva pot to Prisank is suitable only for experienced mountaineers, many mountaineers even rate it as the most demanding secured climbing path on the territory of Slovenia (before the construction of extremely demanding sports via ferratas).
The descent is recommended via the Slovenian path.
Vršič - razpotje pod Bavho 0:15, razpotje pod Bavho - razpotje pod Sovno glavo 0:10, razpotje pod Sovno glavo - vstop v plezalni del poti 0:10, vstop v plezalni del poti - Nad kaminom 1:15, Nad kaminom - Prednje okno 1:00, Prednje okno - Prisojnik 1:00.
Along the route: Tičarjev dom na Vršiču (1618m), Razpotje pod Bavho (1680m), Razpotje pod Sovno glavo (1589m), Kopiščarjev vstop (1626m), Nad kaminom (1978m), Prednje okno (2259m), Razpotje pod vrhom Prisojnika (2504m)
The trip can be extended to the following destinations: Križ
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Discussion about the trip Vršič - Prisank / Prisojnik (Kopiščarjeva pot)
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| david7. 10. 2006 |
Climbing through the front window was very fascinating. Before the window good weather through it foggy and cold. Very detached and one of the more interesting experiences
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| Gost12. 10. 2006 |
wonderful path, but not for everyone
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| Gost31. 10. 2006 |
Prisank through the window, Škrlatica, Triglav, Rjavina - which is the most difficult or most dangerous? I've only missed Prisank, so I'm a bit worried.
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| Gost31. 10. 2006 |
"Technically" the hardest is Prisank through the front window.
For the "dizzy" ones, the hardest is through the back window.
LP
Igor
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| Adson31. 10. 2006 |
I was up there on Sunday, October 29th. Nice hike, not too demanding, I'd rather say poorly (ambiguously) marked. The hardest section is right at the beginning. The much-praised chimney is not demanding, as it's well-equipped with pegs; at the top you really have to crawl, but you can get through even with a backpack.
I recommend setting off early, because later there's a crowd, which is not pleasant (I was at Vršič at 7am when it started to get light, and had the path to myself).
I'm not saying the hike is suitable for everyone, but compared to what I heard from others, I was a bit disappointed, as I expected a technically more demanding and exposed path.
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| Gost2. 11. 2006 |
Thanks for the info on Prisank, now keep your fingers crossed that I'll successfully "hike" it on Saturday!
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| Gost28. 05. 2007 |
I went through the window on Prisank on Friday. It was great, but there's still quite a lot of snow.
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| Gost20. 07. 2007 |
I would like to ask if anyone knows whether there is a possible path from Prisank to Koča v Krnici or from Goličica to Koča v Krnici (how long it takes and difficulty). Thank you and best regards,
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| Gost20. 07. 2007 |
There is no direct connection. You have to descend to Vršič and down to the third bend and from there onwards towards the koča v Krnici.
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| Gost25. 07. 2007 |
I went to Prisank through the window. Helmet and self-belay kit gave me a greater sense of security. I didn't know what was actually waiting for me. But since I enjoy climbing, the whole path was pure pleasure for me and at the same time my first venture of this kind. Even today I can't believe I was up there.
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| Gost31. 07. 2007 |
I see you're all very brave and successfully conquer the heights 
It attracts me too, but judging by the photos the path is very varied 
Can someone who isn't exactly an experienced climber tell me how the ascent felt? I've already tried Vrbanove špice, but I still approach this Prisojnik with great respect.
I'd be glad for a reply. M.
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| Gost31. 07. 2007 |
The hike is very beautiful, but quite demanding. You need to stay well concentrated all the way to the top. It's true that it's not for everyone, a helmet is almost mandatory, and a via ferrata set won't be superfluous if someone doesn't like heights and the exposure of the path. The path is well secured and interesting, caution is not superfluous. It's awful that you meet foreigners in flip-flops or foreign women in short skirts and sandals on the way to the top. Crazy! On Sunday, a blond guy with a Czech accent was pulling his blond girlfriend in jeans down on a rope behind him like a calf, and she was shaking with fear. That's ridiculous! And they're dangerous for others too because they dislodge rocks.
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| Gost31. 07. 2007 |
Big thanks for the reply... I'm already mentally preparing myself 
M.
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| kantavtor13. 08. 2007 |
it really is one of the more difficult paths... for amateurs in our Alps... phenomenal, but you need to realistically assess your abilities...
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| Gost17. 08. 2007 |
For beginners, it would be advisable to test themselves first on easier secured climbing paths. Perhaps Hanzova pot on M. Mojstrovka is suitable for a prior test of vertigo and endurance. Prisojnik through the big window is considered the technically most demanding secured path (ferrata) here and is one difficulty level harder than Prisank.
For a beginner quite strenuous and tiring, can also be dangerous if not careful, for an experienced ferrata climber despite the length of the tour nothing particularly bad. In suitable weather a nice tour, worth multiple visits. Many photos and two 30min films from both climbing paths are available at
http://atv.hamradio.si/gore
So carefully on the path with proper equipment, and never alone.
M.K.
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| Gost17. 08. 2007 |
... and it is one level harder than Hanzova pot on Mojstrovka.
Sorry for the typing error. M.K.
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| Gost31. 08. 2007 |
Dear M.K., many thanks for your opinion and the link. I looked at the pictures... wow, interesting.
Good luck to everyone.
M.
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| Gost10. 09. 2007 |
Yesterday I went along the mentioned (Kopiščarjeva) path to Prisojnik. The path is wonderful, but I recommend a safety kit and helmet, and great concentration when continuing along the ridge.
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| Gost13. 09. 2007 |
What are the conditions on the path to Prisojnik, any snow???
Thanks for the info!
Best regards,
L.N.
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| Gost17. 09. 2007 |
Brane V.-today I watched a short film about the ascent to Prisojnik via Kopiščarjeva pot. Full praise to the authors. The music equipment is also wonderful. I haven't gone on this path yet. I went about a year ago along the ridge from Poštarski dom. The tour excited me through the film, so I'll definitely do this path next year. It's probably pleasant to meet such mountaineers as the authors.
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| Gost1. 10. 2007 |
Guest, is it really that dangerous without a helmet.
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| Gost3. 10. 2007 |
Not dangerous at all, unless something falls on your head.
Better put a helmet on your head, as it hardly burdens the path, you can still carry it in your backpack if you decide you don't need it.
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| Gost3. 10. 2007 |
Helmet belongs in basic high-mountain gear, if it's a via ferrata then also the via ferrata set. Of course not just with you, but on your head too...
For fans of harder vias ferratas, two films added to the server: ascent of the extreme via ferrata on Cjajnik/Košuta, and the newest: on the demanding via ferrata via Italiana and Slovenska pot on Managart.
http://atv.hamradio.si/gore
Among others, there is also an extensive collection of photos from the great traverse of Civette 3220m / Dolomiti, via both infamous ferratas degli Alleghesi and Attilio Tissi.
Safe steps,
Mijo K.
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| Dejanp7. 07. 2008 |
I agree, without a helmet and self-belaying kit I advise against climbing any via ferrata. Right here I got a stone directly to the head, if I hadn't had a helmet, I probably wouldn't be among the living today.
Andrej Mašera in the book 50 Protected Climbing Routes (1996) describes the Kopiščarjeva pot as probably still the most demanding Slovenian protected route. Possibly, but it is nevertheless mostly well protected and in many places belaying is not even necessary. The chimney, however, is still very demanding in its overhanging part despite the wire ladder, especially hellish if you get stuck with your backpack in the narrowest part of the path, the most demanding is the scree just below the window, where there is no protection, you go only on all fours and stones are constantly trickling all around.
In short, I must say the ascent was strenuous. However, for me, due to the variety of the path, despite many climbed via ferratas, it was also among the most fascinating, even though due to bad weather we only climbed through the window and then descended. I can hardly wait for a repeat.
Good luck,
Dejan P.
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| grahlck19. 07. 2009 |
Is there any snow on the path? Are the fixed protections in good condition?
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| matjaz1211. 08. 2009 |
somewhat off topic..
why isn't Hanzova pot listed in the descriptions of approaches to Prisank?
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| bridnk11. 08. 2009 |
went up with colleagues last week, when I feel like it I'll tackle the description, if nothing else at least attach some photos 
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| bridnk11. 08. 2009 |
Just to comment on the descent myself, as long as there are pegs and cables there's no problem at all since you can hold on........only at natural holds does the real fun and enjoyment begin
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| Johny7724. 08. 2009 |
hello
on Friday Boris and I were on Prisojnik, it seemed really great to me, that window is really something special, I recommend it to anyone who hasn't been up there yet
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| grahlck3. 10. 2009 |
On Saturday September 26 I hiked the Kopiščarjeva trail. It's true there was fog but on this trail you really have to enjoy it.
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| pasavec23. 06. 2010 |
Hi!
has anyone walked the Kopiščarjeva recently? Any snow or does snow complicate passages anywhere?
thanks!
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| hribček24. 06. 2010 |
I want to go to Prisank via Kopiščarjeva. I have behind me among others the path through Plemenice to Triglav, Mrzla gora, Kopinškova to Ojstrica. Do these experiences suffice for Kopiščarjeva?
thanks,
best
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| mosovnik24. 06. 2010 |
If you've already done what's listed "all the way" (and presumably some before that too), with the right equipment, you shouldn't have any problems.
Good luck!
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| sportnick16. 07. 2010 |
On Sunday I went to Prisojnik via Kopiščarjeva route. Equipped with helmet and safety gear. This was my first somewhat more climbing ascent and I was thrilled. The path is well secured, varied and very interesting. Start at 8am from Vršič, arrival at summit at 12pm, return via Slovenian/southern route (2h walk). In short, an excellent trip.
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| JusAvgustin9. 08. 2010 |
Yesterday we chose a slightly different variant and descended Kopiščarjeva. Rocks in the window and some other parts wet and slippery, lots of mud too. Biggest problem not descent but crowds coming up. Scree dangerous for slipping. Protections in excellent condition. Hanzova to Prisank still my favorite to the top.
Lpp
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| matej_s31. 08. 2010 |
Hello,
I'm heading out for the first time on Thursday 2.9. via Kopiščarjeva to Prisojnik. Looking at the forecast and it looks good. Regarding the fallen snow, I'm interested in your opinion (experience):
- can I expect snow on the path (will it melt by morning)?
- how is the ascent on wet rocks (slippery)? is constant self-belaying possible (cables along the path)?
- do I need an ice axe or crampons (I only have half crampons, i.e. without 1/2 foot)?
I have some experience with via ferratas, but not at the highest difficulty level ...
Matej
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| lepenatka31. 08. 2010 |
For this path, a lot of experience is needed.
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| jedriličar31. 08. 2010 |
Dear sir
I don't know why you unnecessarily scare people. Reading your comments, it almost seems that an average hiker wouldn't even dare to take Kopiščarjeva. Matej, just head nicely to the via ferrata, that via ferrata is not overly demanding, of course if you follow the basic rules of via ferrata: harness, helmet and via ferrata set. The hardest part is threading (the line) about 2 meters at the top of one chimney. And that's it, use your head and feet on the path, a little respect for the mountain and no problem.
P.S. When I first went to Kopiščarjeva, I read everything written about it, I was almost scared. But it turned out to be an ordinary ferratina (I deliberately wrote ferratina, because secured sections are about 50 m at the entrance, then about 100 m middle part and about 30 m at the exit from the window, the rest is ordinary hiking). Best regards
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| NEIC00831. 08. 2010 |
That's how it's said. Courage and go for it..
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| matej_s24. 09. 2010 |
Here I am back from Prisojnik (up Kopiščarjeva, down Slovenska) ... Yesterday the weather was INSANELY nice, about 10 of us up there all day, really pure bliss, almost no wind. The path is decently marked, but I still managed to get lost when I wasn't paying attention to the poorly visible markers and unnecessarily crossed the scree before entering the vertical section and got so tangled that I needed more than half an hour to get back to the right track Otherwise, the path didn't seem technically too demanding to me, maybe more orientationally unpredictable if you're not careful, climbing on very well (even too well!) secured passages requires some arm strength, the rock is excellent, so it's really a pleasure.
Maybe someone knows which tour would be technically say one level more demanding?
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| JusAvgustin24. 09. 2010 |
Congratulations! but as long as you climb (although it's not climbing) with your hands, stay on secured mountain paths, if you got lost on Kopiščarjeva, I don't recommend Hanzova, there is a small sea of technically more demanding tours across the border, so-called ferratas...
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| brish24. 09. 2010 |
If you haven't been to Jezerska Kočna via Kremžarjeva pot yet, go for it. And don't forget the via ferrata set and helmet. Check if the Čenska koča is still open. Safe steps and lots of beautiful views.
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| NejcJ1. 07. 2011 |
Today my colleague and I did Kopiščarjeva, very nice path, there are only 2 snowfields, but winter equipment is not needed!
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| ljubitelj gora1. 07. 2011 |
NejcJ, did you use the via ferrata kit on this path?
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| brish1. 07. 2011 |
For Kopiščarjeva to Prisojnik the via ferrata kit is mandatory. Lp
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| Stumby18. 07. 2011 |
today I was on Prisojnik via Kopiščarjeva. The self-belay kit is of course not mandatory, especially if you want to go a bit faster, but it is really highly recommended for beginners and less experienced.
matej_s: for a concrete level of more demanding via ferratas there are Via Italiana on Mangart, Via della Vita on Vevnica, SV Deber on Viš, etc...
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| dedo2418. 07. 2011 |
How much snow is left?
Is it possible to get there without winter gear?
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| Stumby18. 07. 2011 |
There's little snow and you can bypass it, so you can easily go without winter gear...
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| vik19. 07. 2011 |
We were on this path 14 days ago and the easiest member (under 50) of the small (3) expedition slipped on snow and caught himself with the ice axe. But there was really snow only in patches a few steps at a time. Well protected in the walls, so much iron it's already a bit squeaky, but that's fine. Almost had the feeling that Ajdovska deklica also opened her eyes for a moment. Also cold draught through the window and towards the summit windy and foggy along the ridge. In such conditions need to be careful on the exposed ridge. Views from the summit at least some, but Očak didn't want to reveal itself from under the cap, most panoramic towards Mojstrovka where we were a week earlier. Way back same along the ridge, then past the window to the left and around to Vršič, where what? Ah, jota.
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| FRANC GNEZDA20. 07. 2011 |
Wonderful path if you connect it with the path through the back window.
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| augustus334. 08. 2011 |
are there any extra difficulties for short-legged hikers?
wife is only one meter fifty tall you see...
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| Irina15. 08. 2011 |
The window always attracts gazes again when we head to Vršič. Yesterday we also peeked through it.
I enjoyed every step, every part of the path. This path always captivates me especially, and every time again at the top I thank it for allowing me to wander in its hidden corners.
Unfortunately, I always notice again that families with children also venture on demanding paths. None of them had even a helmet, they probably haven't even heard of full protection.
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| uhan116. 08. 2011 |
Hi
I'm interested if it's feasible in one day to do Prisojnik (Kopiščarjeva) and continue to Razor (through the last window) and maybe Planja, and back to Vršič along the southern path (I think that's what it's called?)? How much time? I'm very well fit and I've also climbed Via della Vita on Mangart, so no problems with secured paths. Thanks
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| uhan116. 08. 2011 |
Of course, what David did is fascinating But I would start early in the morning and like to return before night. Really no one has done this yet to say a bit how and what?
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| furman16. 08. 2011 |
@Uhan, two years ago my colleague and I went from Pogačnikov dom to Razor, the colleague went to Planja before Razor. From Razor I went to Vršič, but the colleague went to Prisojnik via the jubilee (or southern) route. From Prisojnik we descended to Vršič via the Grebenska route. The colleague walked this tour in about 10 hours. Then we went together to Mihov dom where we left the car. The colleague wasn't particularly physically fit. The difference between your and his tour is that he went from Pogačnik (cca 2000 m) to Vršič (cca 1600 m), you would go the opposite way, and what he didn't go via Kopiščarjeva but via the Grebenska route.
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| otiv16. 08. 2011 |
uhan1 I don't know the reason why I should return by night, when it's so nice on Kriške pode. Your tour is feasible, only in suitable weather, these days it will surely be too hot. Personally, I went only in one direction along the peaks, but on the opposite side.
Good luck!
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| HomoAlpinicus21. 08. 2011 |
Super tour, also fully doable in hot weather.
Today 21.8., during the hike from Sovna glava to the start of the climbing section of Kopiščarjeva pot we found blue-grey sunglasses. Owner please contact toneplaninsek@yahoo.co.uk
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| urbancek21. 08. 2011 |
I watched today this siege of Prisojnik...lol. Most people from Vršič have no other imagination than to besiege this poor mountain
Of course, Kopiščarjeva is doable in hot weather, since most of it is in the shade, as I managed to see today.
Best regards!
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| Arso4. 09. 2011 |
End of August I went via Kopiščarjeva. I've already hiked this route up and down many times. Now I wish to do the entire Hanzova, where there's sometimes a waterfall and always snowfields. Does anyone know the condition of Hanzova?
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| veja55. 09. 2011 |
Hello,
can we compare Kopiščarjeva path in terms of difficulty with the Slovenian one to Mangart? Thanks for the info.
Regards!
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| IgorZlodej6. 09. 2011 |
Comparison is of course possible, and not only with Kopiščarjeva, but also with some other path.
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| lukecpukec6. 09. 2011 |
Kopiščarjeva path seems to me one degree more difficult than the Slovenian one to Mangart... Regards
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| LidijaJesih7. 09. 2011 |
The rating is always subjective, but Kopiščarjeva is more demanding than the Slovenska on Mangart. Unless the thin air above 2300 m already bothers you
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| urbancek8. 09. 2011 |
Well, to me it wasn't anything special, two to three difficult sections and that's it... Far from top-notch for me... Lp!
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| Ksandi8. 09. 2011 |
Was with a friend on 8.9. on Prisojnik via Kopiščarjeva. Beautiful, haven't enjoyed it like this for a long time.
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| Andro111. 09. 2011 |
Very nice path!! Just the markings could be renewed a bit, I was going up and quickly missed some 
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| wsbase13. 09. 2011 |
Hi, can anyone tell me what the path or passage between Kopiščarjeva pot and Hanzova is like? Or is there another path to get from Vršič to Hanzova? Thanks!
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| JusAvgustin13. 09. 2011 |
the path is closed due to a landslide on the saddle between Hudičev steber and Prisojnik. The passage between the paths is nothing special (nice shortcut), but if you wait a bit longer (read: until snow and low temperatures), you'll be able to reach Hanzova also via some waterfall, of which there are plenty under Prisank.
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| JORDAN19. 09. 2011 |
On Saturday 17.09.2011 my friend and I went along Kopiščarjeva pot to Prisank.
The ferrata was very well visited, very encouraging is the awareness of all Saturday visitors of this trail that they took it seriously and all whom I saw were equipped with via ferrata sets. The trail is really a special experience, but what pumped the most adrenaline through our veins was the ascent towards the window over very crumbly terrain. There you need to be very careful as the rocks are just waiting for someone to help them roll down into the valley. One more tip for passing through the tunnel, so you don't have to take off your backpack and get stuck: enter on your left side and slither upwards on the cable with extended arms.
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| urbancek19. 09. 2011 |
This is no ferrata...
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| JusAvgustin19. 09. 2011 |
I agree with urbancka... let's start distinguishing between ZPP and ferrata
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| JUREE19. 09. 2011 |
Via ferrata, translated as iron path, is a protected climbing path equipped with various safety devices, usually a steel cable and pegs, often also with aids such as ladders, footbridges, steps, whose purpose is to reduce the difficulty of the ascent.
The history of Via Ferrata construction dates back to the First World War. The original purpose was to facilitate soldiers' access to exposed but strategically important points high in the mountains. They were mainly built in the Dolomites for military needs, and the Dolomites are still considered the center of climbing on protected paths or ferratas today.
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| JusAvgustin19. 09. 2011 |
Can't you do more than copy-paste? I still stand by the fact that Kopiščarjeva (aka Jeseniška!) path to Prisank is NOT a classic ferrata. For the info of all who don't know the path's history. The path follows the original route climbed by Kravanja-Kopiščar and Vertelj-Hanza in 1932. The path was opened in 1948.
In that case, is Hanzova also a ferrata? Even though it goes across the entire S wall on natural passages...
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| neph19. 09. 2011 |
Does it really seem superfluous to anyone (again) to polemicize about the term "ferrata"? I think we all know well in what context "JORDAN" used it, and how each individual has their terms sorted out is each person's business. The important thing is that we understand each other.
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In Italy they have ferratas, in Austria klettersteige. Here... many say ferrata, no one says klettersteig... our safety devices are Slovenian-style cables, pegs and pitons... so no one thinks to write that they were "cableing" uphill and "pegging" downhill , and in between a bit "pitoning" 
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| CarpeDiem24719. 09. 2011 |
It could be Železninka or Oželeznjenka in our language, hehe
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| bobo6. 10. 2011 |
Yesterday my wife and I went via Kopiščarjeva. The path is fantastic, very well secured and scenic. No crowds at the summit, weather ideal. Otherwise, no special features on the path, maybe some loose piton and faded markings. Caution is needed in the mountains at every step anyway... beautifully utilized day...
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| dolenjka&primorc6. 10. 2011 |
Well yeah...we went up Kopiščarjeva to Prisank on Sunday, 2.10.2011...nice and interesting tour, but again not as demanding as some describe it
..anyway helmet recommended, via ferrata set more for the psyche than anything else...well that's just our opinion
.. Nice greetings and safe steps to all further
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| JusAvgustin6. 10. 2011 |
the route is suitable for descent (fastest), if you come up Hanzova... or does anyone know what's up with Hanzova route now? I assume they'll fix the damage after winter...
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| mdj26. 06. 2012 |
does anyone maybe know how the path is currently, is it dry?
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| bobby9. 07. 2012 |
Hello! If anyone plans on 21.7. going from Vršič to Razor and then extending to Prisojnik and back to Vršič, I recommend myself. Originally we planned only Prisojnik, but from these emails I got energy for Razor too. We are three and I'm asking for a "guide" just because of the route and say safety. We are quite well prepared. I offer transport and if desired also payment (say 30€). We are from MB so the "guide" can also be from these parts.
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| zelodko19. 07. 2012 |
I suggest you don't tackle the tour by going first to Prisank and only then to Razor. I assume you want to go to Prisank via Kopiščarjeva path, which is not overly suitable for descent. Go from Vršič via Kopiščarjeva to Prisank, then via Jubilejna past Zadnje okno towards Razor, from Razor then descend via Kranjska planina to Vršič. This is really a beautiful tour, but I don't know exactly what condition the path is in currently. Good luck!
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| Šarlot8. 08. 2012 |
Hello,
I'm wondering why many commenters write not to go on this path alone?
Lp,
Š
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| ljubitelj gora8. 08. 2012 |
What would some say when certain people head out on very demanding pathless terrain.
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| Keko8. 08. 2012 |
It's not recommended to go alone on any high mountain excursion, especially not on those tours that are rarely visited. For Kopiščarjeva, I can say it's quite well-visited and if you head there on a weekend you're probably not alone. On this path I've met quite a few hikers who tackled it solo.
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| Šarlot8. 08. 2012 |
That's clear, better in company, but if there's no company ... We won't stay home because of that
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| urbancek8. 08. 2012 |
There's nothing completely wrong with going to the mountains alone. So this debate is completely unnecessary. 
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| Šarlot8. 08. 2012 |
Well anyway, I don't know the path, but it's on this year's list, so I asked if the exposure has a purpose for not going alone... regarding protection etc. Probably won't find a companion, so I'll go alone lp
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| Zebdi8. 08. 2012 |
Šarlot, hiking in company is generally recommended because of immediate buddy help in case of an accident. Sometimes they even said you should always go in threes..one waits with the injured, the other goes to the nearest hut for help If you go alone, you risk a worse outcome in case of accident than if you go in company - especially if (for whatever reason) you can't call for help yourself. I hike alone a lot, and nothing's missing
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| jprim8. 08. 2012 |
@ zebdi
Once I heard a joke, something like this ...
Little Johnny was already several years old but still hadn't spoken a word, then suddenly at lunch table: "Pass me the salt!"
Mom overjoyed: "Johnny, you can talk, so why didn't you speak before?"
"Until now, everything was ok!"
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| Zebdi9. 08. 2012 |
@jprim
See, if I cook lunch myself, I don't need to ask for salt
Everyone best knows what they are capable of and what risk they are still willing to accept. If someone thinks they are 100% safe in a group, they are seriously mistaken
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| jprim9. 08. 2012 |
Well, everyone can really interpret my joke differently.
Right?
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| Zebdi9. 08. 2012 |
Possible. Probably everyone can interpret my answer differently too.
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| Maro13. 08. 2012 |
Hi,
on Wednesday we are heading to Prisojnik and then further to Kriške pode. If anyone is interested, they can join us!
Best, Marko
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| nataša113. 08. 2012 |
Hi!
I also plan to go to Prisojnik on Wednesday, specifically via Kopiščarjeva. Which one is your group taking?
If we have the same direction, I'll gladly join you.
LPP - Nataša
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| andrejp13. 08. 2012 |
On Saturday we tackled the mentioned route. I just want to warn that at that narrowing at the top of the chimney the rock is extremely smooth, which additionally complicates the passage. Otherwise, the safety gear is fine, just to avoid confusion.
Best regards A
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| Maro13. 08. 2012 |
Nataša, we also plan to go on Kopiščarjeva. So we can arrange and start together.
Andrej, thanks for the warning!
Best regards, Marko
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| krpan14. 08. 2012 |
Can someone give me information - this year I "climbed" Mangart (Slovenian route) and Mala Mojstrovka (Hanzova), both without issues - once you get used to overhangs.
Can someone please, who has already "climbed" Kopiščarjeva on Prisojnik, give a comparison regarding difficulty, demands etc.
Thanks in advance.
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| Keko14. 08. 2012 |
Kopiščarjeva is harder than both you mentioned, very nice and also very well protected. However, its difficulty is not such that a slightly more experienced mountaineer wouldn't climb it without problems. I too last year after Hanzova on Mojstrovka went on to Kopiščarjeva and it posed no problems. So go for it boldly.
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| krpan14. 08. 2012 |
Thanks both for the info, tomorrow still a "walk" approx. 20 km (1200 m ascent, descent) and over the weekend similar (2000 m ascent, descent), then waiting for nice weather during the week for Kopiščarjeva . So that the knees "get used" to descending
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| krpan22. 08. 2012 |
Thanks, Kucelj, for the info. Trail done yesterday, plenty of hikers ("climbers") as samples. It annoys me that at the exit from the hole it's not already the top of Prisank, but ... those 1.5 hours really draaaaag on. At the top crowd.
Descent via the southern one, I have to admit, quite strenuous in yesterday's heat.
Start and descent - Erjavčeva koča. Up 4.5 hours, down 3 hours. Not exactly sprinting .
The most dangerous was when some kid on the path from Poštarsko to Erjavčeva koča along the slope through the thicket almost threw a rock at my head (yes, we have such parents who let kids throw stones down the path through the forest).
P.S. This about danger is pure truth and a bit of joke - Prisojnik must be ABSOLUTELY RESPECTED and good fitness is needed!
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| natalijab20. 10. 2012 |
We plan to do this path tomorrow. Can anyone advise if there's any chance of snow up there (or on the path)?
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| IgorZlodej20. 10. 2012 |
There's a little snow along the ridge, but already high above the window, it can be avoided on the ridge.
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| natalijab20. 10. 2012 |
Many thanks for the reply! If there was snow on the most difficult part of the path, we would definitely go for an easier variant... lp
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| natfal22. 10. 2012 |
Natalijab - wondering if you went up this path to Prisojnik yesterday and what conditions are like - still any snow, ice, slippery spots?
Which path did you descend?
Anyone else have latest info on Prisojnik, as 3 of us going up tomorrow. Thanks and lp
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| johnybravoslo3. 07. 2013 |
Does anyone have information about this trail? Is it passable yet, is there any snow... etc.
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| oybl6. 07. 2013 |
This path could easily have the difficulty rating "extremely demanding"
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| Zebdi6. 07. 2013 |
Why is that?
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| urbancek6. 07. 2013 |
I'm also interested in that
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| oybl8. 07. 2013 |
I've already gone this trail twice, and if I compare it e.g. with Italiano or Cjajnik, I've always been 5x more overwhelmed here Even Turkenkopf (which is hard to compare), is easier for me. Well, that's personal opinion...
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| robter8. 07. 2013 |
Your subjective assessment, which however is not conditioned by the mere technical difficulty of the trail, which is much greater on the other three you listed, but there can be other reasons for being "overwhelmed".
To Prisank you overcome a considerably greater elevation difference than on the other three, unless you attach Italiano to Belopeška.
It's not exceptionally demanding, since on this trail you use the cable for protection, and you can look for holds in the rock, which we can't say for Cjajnik.
It is true that one direction is easier for one, another for the other.
And safe steps further.
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| Keko8. 07. 2013 |
No no, now you're exaggerating a bit. I dare say that at least half of those who go on Kopiščarjeva can't even remotely manage Turkenkopf, so we can't count it among the exceptionally demanding ones.
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| robter8. 07. 2013 |
Keko, it will hold true. Turkenkopf got me...
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| Kita9. 07. 2013 |
Prisojnik via Kopiščarjeva is extremely demanding for hikers with poor fitness otherwise you can go up and down Kopiščarjeva without a via ferrata set, but the descent via the south is really boring and kills the psyche...
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| oybl9. 07. 2013 |
Well, this was more of a praise for this trail, because personally it's in the same league as Via Italiana (less technically demanding, but more strenuous). I'm not complaining And we could have some extremely demanding trail in Slovenia, right
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| Pero#2420. 07. 2013 |
Has anyone been on this path to Prisojnik in the last few days? I'm interested if there is still a lot of snow on the path? Are crampons or climbing rope needed because of the snow? Thanks for answers.
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| Sano20. 07. 2013 |
I went on this path on 18.7., the path is completely dry. Good luck!
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| DARINKA531. 07. 2013 |
I think I have enough fitness, just that dangerous ascent towards the window in picture 55 worries me a bit. Can someone give me a comment?
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| Daaam31. 07. 2013 |
Heat and cold sweat... the main technical difficulties are lower (chimney/above the chimney) so if you make it to the bend you'll reach the top
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| namajefajn12. 08. 2013 |
Hi, end of the week I'd go up Kopiščarjeva to Prisojnik. Interested in comparison of difficulty and exposure between this path and the climbing path to Velika Baba čez Ledine. Thanks.
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| Tatana12. 08. 2013 |
To me Kopiščarjeva seems considerably harder than the climbing path to Velika Baba. On Velika Baba self-belaying didn't seem necessary to me, on Kopiščarjeva I wouldn't dare without it for now, as it's much more airy. Also fitness-wise it seems more demanding. But with proper gear, some will and fitness it's a great path.
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| urbancek12. 08. 2013 |
Wherever you look it's only "banging on" about either Velika Baba or Mrzla gora
But this isn't aimed at you Tatana, so no misunderstanding...
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| namajefajn12. 08. 2013 |
No hard feelings please - asking is no sin Just curious what it's like, so I won't wonder midway what I'm doing
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| urbancek12. 08. 2013 |
@namajefajn: This wasn't aimed at you either...
I meant in general... Because with these two paths or mountains people just scare and make a mountain out of a molehill... And it looks like these two mountains are the only ones that exist... A bit clichéd already... Best regards!
P.S: Secured very demanding path, so if you made it to Baba without issues, you won't have big problems with Kopiščarjeva either, although they differ. Take care of self-belaying and enjoy!
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| Potohodnik13. 08. 2013 |
Is the path well secured and very crumbly? I plan to go tomorrow or Thursday.
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| tinky13. 08. 2013 |
The path is well protected, but I advise going on Wednesday. Thursday is a holiday and it will be crowded.
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| Kita13. 08. 2013 |
Tatana all that is difficult on Kopiščarjeva path is the descent on the crumbly southern path...The most annoying are the pegs in the chimney which possibly devalue the difficulty...
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| JusAvgustin14. 08. 2013 |
All who talk about crumbliness of Prisank I think don't even know what a crumbly mountain is or the term crumbly. But it's like this, the more you have behind you the "intensity" of crumbling diminishes. Anyway I hope Potohodnik didn't go today, as everything is wet, which is worse than "crumbly", but tomorrow it'll be different again. Good luck on the path wherever you are!
Juš
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| marjan1123. 08. 2013 |
I'm listening to debates about Kopiščarjeva and Hanzova on Mojstrovka - I've walked both several times. Generally, Kopiščarjeva on Prisojnik is considered more demanding than Hanzova on Mojstrovka, but I don't know why. In meters of via ferrata cables and number of pegs, the path on Mojstrovka definitely leads, and it also seems more exposed in places. Kopiščarjeva leads in difficulty only in length and that chimney in the middle, which is however full of pegs and staples - in short, no problem. And the atmosphere on Kopiščarjeva always seems somehow darker and more serious to me.
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| augustus331. 09. 2013 |
Very nice path, which I highly recommend.
I think the scaremongering about it is excessive. I agree that it's not for every hiker, but it is for almost everyone who has already ventured on other secured climbing paths. Without the safety gear, this path would be unclimbable for ordinary mountaineers, but there are plenty of them. Perhaps there are 2-3 somewhat awkward spots on the path - one of them is how to reach the first pegs with your foot when exiting the window. But beware of falling rocks, especially under the window and with crowds like yesterday.
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| BibaS1. 09. 2013 |
For me too, this was one of the nicer paths I've walked in our mountains.
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| ms_primoz6. 09. 2013 |
Hi, is anyone going tomorrow to Prisank via Kopiščarjeva pot? I'm asking so I don't go alone.
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| Alesko19716. 09. 2013 |
Alone on a sunny Saturday September morning via Kopiščarjeva to Prisank? A privilege that no king, no rich man can buy tomorrow... No worries, you won't be alone, you'll be standing in line.
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| SunBurned6. 09. 2013 |
Wow, excellent video. Inspirational!
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| klin8411. 09. 2013 |
Maybe someone knows what the conditions have been like in the last few days regarding snow... Kredarica is nicely snow-covered..
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| IgorZlodej11. 09. 2013 |
Last few days it was dry, now it's wet and also a bit snowy
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| klin8411. 09. 2013 |
A little? You probably meant on the top, but regarding the path, I'm more interested; on Saturday the weather looks promising otherwise.
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| ms_primoz12. 09. 2013 |
yeah by Saturday it will all melt anyway, of course if it doesn't snow today and tomorrow too....otherwise, the mountain will wait, will you wait too?
that's the question now
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| klin8413. 09. 2013 |
thanks a lot... however I look at it it will be nice yeah so.. we won't wait for another opportunity
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| Domch13. 09. 2013 |
4.9. first time on Prisank and even via the first ascent route - Kopiščarjeva route and descent via Grebenska pot. It's a beautiful, long and technically quite complicated tour, definitely worth a visit. I expected an even harder path, judging by the pictures and read information about this path. According to what I read, it should be the most demanding secured climbing path here. Based on what I've hiked so far, I can confirm that, but it wasn't as vicious as I expected. The entry is adrenaline-filled and reminds of Slovenska pot on Ledine. The most demanding part is the chimney or gully, where hands pull nicely upwards. In the narrow passage I got a bit stuck, as I entered facing the wrong direction, solved the problem by removing my backpack, and it went. Through the window above there's quite a draught. The ridge is well protected on key sections, maybe a peg is missing right under the third summit on that smooth slab, especially on descent extra caution is needed. For the tour I warmly recommend a via ferrata kit, helmet and gloves.
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| nena311. 10. 2013 |
Has anyone been to Prisojnik (Kopiščarjeva) recently by chance? Do you need crampons already?
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| JusAvgustin2. 10. 2013 |
Even when there will be, believe me, you won't go then...
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| redbull2. 10. 2013 |
ahh,,what crampons,,if you go Hanzovo, you don't even need them there.
lp
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| natfal16. 10. 2013 |
Has anyone been up there these past days? Is there any snow? I'm thinking of going up on Friday. regards
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| JusAvgustin16. 10. 2013 |
It was snowing, it was cold, there is almost certainly verglas and some snow patches in the wall. I had such conditions myself on Saturday in the S wall of Vrtače. In such conditions it's no longer messing around.
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| natfal21. 10. 2013 |
Thanks for the info. On Friday I went instead to the autumn-colored Trupejevo poldne and from there observed Prisojnik - looks like quite a bit of snow up there. These warm days will probably melt it. If anyone has any new info, please write.
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| dona28. 06. 2014 |
Hey! Curious about the condition on the path through the window? I assume crampons are still mandatory. Has anyone gone this path this year yet, no comments. If anyone knows something I'm happy for info. Planning this tour tomorrow.
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| IgorZlodej28. 06. 2014 |
Crampons and short picks, plus rain coming
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| ujemi utrinek20. 07. 2014 |
Current conditions on Kopiščar's path to Prisojnik: There are still three smaller snowfields, steep, very hard snow. It's hard to bypass them because we are moving in steep terrain. I recommend at least using an ice axe if you decide on this path.
According to the story of a mountaineer who came to the top via Hanza's path, winter equipment on Hanza's path is mandatory!
And a comment from some mountaineers: Winter equipment is necessary on both paths. Saying that you can climb a demanding path over snowfields, even smaller ones, without equipment is irresponsible misleading. When making such posts, please keep in mind that average mountaineers also read the posts
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| taubi43. 08. 2014 |
On Saturday we went via Kopiščarjeva to Prisank. In the most equipped sections the rock is wet and very slippery. Via ferrata kit is therefore mandatory. Winter gear not needed as we never stepped on snow. Nevertheless every responsible mountaineer should have an ice axe at least this summer
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| hbranko16. 09. 2014 |
Does anyone have info on the condition of Kopiščarjeva pot? Is there any snow on the path?
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| One Mic26. 09. 2014 |
Nice greeting. Today we treated ourselves to a trip along this via ferrata and for all who might be interested in the conditions: yes, without problems without winter gear, at two places the cable is torn but nothing worse. Also through the narrow part without taking off the backpack (and I have 90kg and not the smallest backpack). At the top we don't get close to the snowfield at all, the only nuisance is some fresh snowflakes that are melting and wetting the path through the window. At this point some caution is needed, as there is a risk of slipping on wet rocks or scree. I also recommend warm clothing.
Good luck.
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| BMarolt18. 10. 2014 |
Hi. Today Vesna and I went up Kopiščarjeva to the summit and then along the ridge back to Vršič. Path without features, a bit wet in places so caution as it slips. Nice regards and good luck
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| levak18. 12. 2014 |
Does anyone have any info on the condition of Kopiščarjeva? How much snow is there on Vršič at all, especially in shady spots?
Given the temperatures I assume no really settled snow, so the path to the top could be quite fun due to all the spindrift. Hope at least some cable sticks out here and there for easier orientation.
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| lizika18. 12. 2014 |
Exactly that right nickname you picked
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| tinky18. 12. 2014 |
You know how to write, lefty, but brother doesn't.....
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| redbull18. 12. 2014 |
I don't think there'll be little snow, there's quite a lot of it
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| lizika18. 12. 2014 |
Bulči, too much for sneakers and slippers
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| redbull18. 12. 2014 |
not at all, now it's great for clogs, lizek
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| metod18. 07. 2015 |
No entries yet this year about the condition. Is there still snow, is Kopiščarjeva perhaps closed? Thanks for answers. Best, M
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| zico1018. 07. 2015 |
Kopiščarjeva is open, no snow on the trail.... it's nicely passable. Trail done today so info first-hand.
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| Potohodnik19. 07. 2015 |
Kopiščarjeva (some also call it Jeseniška) is fine for someone at least a bit experienced. It reminded me of Montaž (from Pecol): otherwise there are some unprotected II grade climbs, then suddenly almost a via ferrata in the chimney (that's why you almost need some strength on the way). It's a bit annoying because the rocks are polished.
My dad and I did it today. We've been hiking in the mountains enthusiastically for only 3 years, but we smashed it today for fun. I have to say that on mountains like Prisank, dimensions lose their sense. My dad has a bit poorer fitness and we needed 6 hours to the top.
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| ms_primoz20. 07. 2015 |
Potohodnik - congratulations. Especially for hiking with your father. I also hike a lot with my father, as well as other family members. That's the most beautiful thing... Not everyone has that, only a few, so appreciate it. I appreciate it.
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| planika8220. 07. 2015 |
ms primoz, I completely agree with your thinking.
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| MartinU20. 12. 2015 |
Kopiščarjeva trail is closed from 11.9.2015 until further notice due to severed wire ropes...
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| gorjanc5. 07. 2016 |
Does anyone have info on current snow conditions along Kopiščarjeva? lp
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| Branee5. 07. 2016 |
It's closed because it's damaged
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| gorjanc6. 07. 2016 |
thanks a lot for the reply... I didn't know if anything could have been repaired by this time. best regards
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| Amritaya6. 07. 2016 |
For a long time we've been planning with the group to go to Prisojnik and now we've noticed that the mountaineering society Koper is organizing an ascent to Prisojnik via Kopiščarjeva pot. We've done Škrlatica, gear is ready and fitness too... would you recommend this ascent route? How is the difficulty rated? We all like fixed ropes and pegs, but some comments scare us how hard this trail is... is it really?
Best regards Bojan
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| B26. 07. 2016 |
Kopiščarjeva pot to Prisojnik is closed due to damaged safety gear. The trail closure is posted on the PZS website since September 11, 2015 and has not been lifted. The trail repair is expected this season. For personal safety, it is advisable to respect the closure and use other hiking trails for the ascent to the mountain.
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| Amritaya8. 07. 2016 |
Now I noticed that they changed the announcement and it's no longer Kopiščarjeva pot, but via Grebenska pot... still tempting, what do you say about Kopiščarjeva in terms of difficulty, beauty...?
Best regards Bojan
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| redbull9. 07. 2016 |
Amritaya, your statements are a shot in the dark. But if they hadn't switched to the ridge route, you would probably have struggled up despite the damaged section of the path due to unfamiliarity with it.
Good luck
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| Amritaya10. 07. 2016 |
redbul...I saw the post and asked how it was, that they got it wrong on the association site is not my fault, I somehow rely on what the organizers write.
I didn't plan to go to Prisojnik on a private trip, but with the mountaineering club, so I'm just interested in the difficulty difference between the paths..
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| Branee10. 07. 2016 |
Kopiščarjeva is harder than the one to Škrlatica
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| Gost10. 07. 2016 |
Prisojnik is a beautiful but treacherous mountain. Due to the high starting elevation (Vršič), and also very popular. Kopiščarjeva can be a real treat in these hot summer days, as you're in shade all the way to the window-though it's closed of course. The ridge route can be quite a challenge for some, as the rocks are quite polished-smooth in places, and the ridge narrows considerably in spots. On the southern grassy slopes of Prisojnik, before the window, you can find areas covered with edelweiss and gentians. The path itself is very hot, as you're in the sun all the time. Special caution for the descent, when we're a bit tired and thinking about the well-deserved drink at Vršič. Sadly, on this mountain friend Vinko lost his life, who safely ascended Kopiščarjeva to the summit, but on the return slipped from the ridge just above the window and fell 200m down the southern slope. Good luck.
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| tcanka24. 07. 2016 |
Kopiščarjeva path is still officially closed, but some went through yesterday. The reason is supposed to be a snowfield. Not very convenient that the sign saying the path is closed is only at the entrance to the climbing section, so my friend and I had an extra 100m of elevation. We took the ridge one, which is very nice
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| kufrio5. 08. 2016 |
Hey! Is Kopiščarjeva path still closed? Does it have dangerous snowfields requiring crampons and ice axe? Thanks.
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| garmont10. 08. 2016 |
Kopiščarjeva path is open and normally passable.
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| mukica15. 08. 2016 |
The path is nicely renovated and there is no sign of closure. But on Saturday there was a big crowd, so we nicely enjoyed the views and taking photos along the way, at the top the reward for patience... windless and views far around
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| B215. 08. 2016 |
The path was renovated last week by the Technical Team KPP PZS. The information is published on the PZS website "Planinske poti". The path is open and secured.
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| luy26. 09. 2016 |
Today the Kopiščarjeva protections are very good, all praise to KPP PZS
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| clarisa23. 08. 2017 |
Hello, my husband and I would like to go along Kopiščarjeva, but based on the comments we read here, we feel awe towards this route. We are interested if it can be compared for example to Slovenska on Mangart, Hanzova on Mojstrovka, Korenova on Krn? We know these routes and enjoyed them. Otherwise we hike a lot in the mountains, so we don't lack fitness. Best regards, Clarisa
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| geppo23. 08. 2017 |
If you have walked all that then no fear. It might be more dangerous along the ridge afterwards (slip).
best regards
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| zeti23. 08. 2017 |
Clarisa, I agree with Geppo I also didn't have major problems along the ridge, I had bigger ones on Jalovec on the last ridge. Good luck
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| Cockta2. 09. 2017 |
Kopiščarjeva is truly a real treat.. a path that won't leave anyone indifferent it really shows its teeth right from the start.. climbing through the window is fascinating
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| Tejama24. 06. 2018 |
How is the path via Kopiščarjeva to Prisojnik? Is winter gear needed (crampons, ice axe)? Thanks.
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| HMatjaž25. 06. 2018 |
MANDATORY WINTER EQUIPMENT!!!
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| Tomaz44930. 06. 2018 |
I have the same question as Tejama. @HMatjaz, have you been through the window this year already? Do you have more information? Thanks
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| Qlimac3. 07. 2018 |
I join the question of Tomaž and Teja...
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| danielenidoma4. 07. 2018 |
Hi, we were there on Sunday
Precisely 2 snow fields, nothing special, at least I didn't think so .. Maybe ice axe at discretion, crampons not needed .. Regards
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| Qlimac4. 07. 2018 |
Super, thanks for info!
Planned for the weekend if the weather is OK...
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| sonjav24. 07. 2018 |
Does anyone have any information about the condition on Kopiščarjeva path. Is there any snow on the path?
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| KJ24. 07. 2018 |
Yes, but no need to step on it!
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| miratan28. 08. 2018 |
Hello,
has anyone been on Kopiščarjeva to Prisank after the last snowfall?
Tomorrow, on Wednesday 29.8. I would go on this path, but I'm interested in the snow conditions.
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| enrique8. 09. 2018 |
Hi. Is anyone maybe going tomorrow along Kopiščarjeva path to Prisojnik? Would be happy for company ..
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| darinka414. 09. 2018 |
This Kopiščarjeva climbing path is beautiful. Interesting is a narrow passage where it's best to drop the backpack. Well, I managed to squeeze through on all fours with the backpack. Otherwise it's well-visited. Some climbing sections are difficult. Better to have a self-belay kit at least to the window.
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| dkorpar14. 06. 2019 |
Is there any snow on the path? Is winter gear needed?
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| simon7914. 06. 2019 |
I don't know the current conditions. But on this path winter gear is usually needed far into the summer. This year there's especially a lot of snow/ice above 2000m, on shady sides for sure ...
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| Zombi15. 06. 2019 |
And Grebenska pot before and above the Okno? Dry?
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| andrejamiha21. 07. 2019 |
Hi, 20.7. the trail was snow-free, weather top-notch. Start in front of the postman's hut at 5.30. Back via the ridge, super tour.
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| lojz4. 08. 2020 |
Is Kopiščarjeva pot more demanding than Plemnice or Rjavina along the ridge?
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| ppegan5. 08. 2020 |
Yes, Kopiščarjeva is more demanding than the mentioned paths, as the climbing section is longer, and in the most difficult part, in the chimney, the path is set almost vertically or even slightly overhanging, which surprised me greatly. You get scared already through that narrow passage, but up to there it's quite tense. When you get through the window, at least 1 hour of walking along the ridge awaits you, which also requires a firm and secure step. If I'm not mistaken, Kopiščarjeva path is currently closed due to damage to the safety equipment (I read it this morning).
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| felix6. 08. 2020 |
On 26.7. I was on this path, but I didn't notice any deficiencies. Has there been any damage in the meantime?
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| felix6. 08. 2020 |
Julius, did you read my sentence properly? I am not claiming there is not enough information, just asking if there have been any damages in the meantime!
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| Marjetica610. 08. 2020 |
Hello,
This Saturday we went via Kopiščarjeva, as there was no sign at the board below indicating the path is closed There were already two ahead of us, about 10 behind us. In between, one peg was pulled out in the middle of the cable, and also at two spots two slightly downward-turned pegs where you step.. But nothing critical, reached the window without issue.
Just as we arrived at the top, someone 'installed' a notice that the path is closed
..back via Slovenska.. which we would have anyway
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| TilenP12. 09. 2020 |
Today on this path to Prisojnik. It seems the path is already fixed, the safety gear is OK, some cables look brand new. But it's true there are notices all over Vršič saying the path is closed. Probably because the notice also warns about the closed Jubilee path.
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| 12a3bc16. 07. 2021 10:00:33 |
Does anyone have info on the current snow conditions on Kopiščarjeva?
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| denis29116. 09. 2021 13:08:07 |
Walked (climbed) Kopiščarjeva pot yesterday (5.9.2021). Top-notch and really demanding, but beautiful path. I could add that quite a bit of arm strength is needed. Safe steps to all!
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| ločanka6. 09. 2021 13:57:31 |
Sometimes we pushed the backpack in front of us, because on the back it didn't work on one ledge. But does that still apply today?
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| dprapr7. 09. 2021 07:28:39 |
That about pushing backpacks we've always heard in the past. Also for that passage under Kočna. Why it was so, I don't know.
I assume mainly those with oversized “wardrobes”, uncomfortable backpacks full of food and multi-day gear had issues. Back then hikes weren't one-day trips. No money for “luxury” in huts either. So we carried a lot along. On some tours we could only dream of abundant drinks.
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| Darxta7. 09. 2021 09:04:26 |
Ločanka, that section is still so narrow and if you wriggle through, you need to remove the backpack.
You can go that section on the side without removing the backpack, but then it's a bit more acrobatic.
LP
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| dragon7. 09. 2021 17:26:34 |
It's just like Darxta says. I crawled through here just yesterday. On my side with a 25 l backpack. Having to push the backpack in front of me would seem even harder to me.
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| 12a3bc9. 06. 2022 12:59:50 |
Is the path snow-free yet?
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| RIRO20. 06. 2022 12:24:37 |
Hi, is there any snow on the path? What are the conditions?
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| LISAC3. 08. 2022 16:44:04 |
Hello. Does anyone know the condition of the trail to Prisank? As far as I could understand, officially only Hanzova, Kopiščarjeva, Jubilejna and the southern descent are closed, the others are normally passable? Thanks in advance and safe steps
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| LISAC3. 08. 2022 20:27:26 |
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| G3420. 11. 2022 17:17:43 |
Does anyone perhaps know if there is a trail to Prisojnik via Ajdovska deklica?
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| BorStenar4. 12. 2022 15:18:18 |
And check the book "VRŠIČ CLIMBING GUIDE" where over that carved face there are at least 5 ascents described
Besides, I don't mean "paths," but pathless climbing routes.
I don't know if any of them leads to Prisojnik, but you can lead it
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| BorStenar4. 12. 2022 17:33:24 |
By the way, which path do you recommend for descent more:
Ridge or Slovenian path?
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| rokeg4. 12. 2022 17:38:46 |
The Slovenian one is technically easier. To me it seems very airy. The ridge one is technically more demanding, but a bit less exposed, in my opinion. Opinions differ quite a bit here. If you look at descriptions of harder paths, they recommend descent via the Slovenian one.
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| G3429. 04. 2023 16:28:28 |
Is this path suitable for beginners? We've already been to ferrata Mojstrana, probably we'll go to ferrata Hvadnik and Dobršnik after that. Will we be experienced enough then to go on this path to Prisojnik or Prisank?
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| biba29. 04. 2023 16:39:46 |
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| Danak16. 07. 2023 09:23:36 |
Hello,
How much harder is this path, e.g. compared to Hanzova on MM? Hanzova was no problem for me, now Prisojnik tempts me. Or do you recommend something before that? Thanks
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| Enka16. 07. 2023 12:51:51 |
These are subjective questions of course, but anyway. I can share my view on both. Technically Prisojnik is harder, more vertical, some slightly overhanging sections, both are exposed. But there are enough aids/protections in the climbing part and if MM posed no difficulty for you, this one shouldn't either. To me the key difference is that on MM there's nothing like the continuation on Prisojnik from the window onwards, along the ridge. There it's gravelly in places, protections not everywhere, and exposure is really quite intense in spots. Personally for me this part (especially mentally) was much harder than the climbing section, which was no issue. Kopiščarjeva is also noticeably longer than Hanzova on MM.
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| Danak17. 07. 2023 07:41:46 |
Well yes, I know they are subjective, but at least I have some more info path under my feet, and it'll be fine. Thanks
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| cky2. 10. 2023 19:07:58 |
Nice greetings! I'm wondering if anyone from experience can give a comparison of Kopiščarjeva pot with the path to Stol via ferrata from the Austrian side... Thanks
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| funnyboy2. 10. 2023 20:01:04 |
Kopiščarjeva pot is more difficult, the hardest sections are steeper and more exposed than on the climbing path to Stol.
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| Ivanhoe10. 07. 2024 14:06:19 |
On 6. 7. 2024 my cousin and I climbed Kopiščarjeva pot. The path was very nice and full of challenges. Protections super. Just one snow patch right below the window but you can pass under it.
Lp.
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| tomazsss5. 08. 2024 17:38:43 |
Hi,
Does anyone know the path that connects Kopiščarjeva and Hanzova? I'm interested in exactly where the junction from Kopiščarjeva is and whether it joins Hanzova below or above the snowfield?
Thanks!
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| ben5. 08. 2024 18:45:58 |
The junction from Kopiščarjeva path is a little above the chimney. The connection is above the snowfield.
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| Hribolazec8130. 08. 2024 16:56:00 |
What's the condition of the Kopiščarjeva trail, are there any snow patches left on the path?
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| kalc29. 10. 2024 13:08:19 |
Has anyone been up there recently? Is there any snow on the path?
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| Jazbec1330. 10. 2024 17:44:48 |
I was there today, no snow
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| mirank3. 07. 2025 19:31:07 |
What if we got used to posting and also checking under current conditions? Everything is written there.
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| lepmackon117. 08. 2025 18:32:57 |
Does anyone know if it's possible to cross after that vertical section from Kopiščarjeva to Hanzova (so as not to need an ice axe) and if it's sensible?
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| Janez Seliškar7. 08. 2025 20:08:23 |
If you had looked at the hiking map, this question wouldn't have been necessary.
You still have time to do that.
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| lepmackon118. 08. 2025 10:24:13 |
No worries, I checked. My question referred to whether it makes sense or is worth it (to me it seems this traverse is meant for the opposite direction, i.e. from Hanzova to Kopiščarjeva). I've never been to Hanzova and that's why I'm interested. I don't know why some answer purely informative questions so arrogantly. Regards
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| Janez Seliškar8. 08. 2025 11:03:48 |
Because you decide yourself what is sensible for you.
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| lepmackon118. 08. 2025 12:20:15 |
I wrote under current conditions about the snow in that section where you can reach from Kopiščarjeva. Thanks
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| mnbvc7. 09. 2025 23:41:27 |
how is the path compared to Velika koroska baba via the climbing path and korosko rinko
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| asdf8. 09. 2025 00:03:37 |
The chimney is more exposed than anything on the climbing path to Velika Baba or on the path from Jezersko to Koroška Rinka (I don't know the path from Okrešlj), but it is well protected. In addition, there are some exposed sections without protection, but as far as I remember, that's also on the path to Koroška Rinka. However, Kopiščarjeva pot has less scree than the other two.
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