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Yeah, I'm pondering that too, what's worse: half hour butt-sliding to Pekel with relatively rested muscles (still very annoying, I hate such parts the most), or 2 km cables, which isn't a problem otherwise, but towards end of day we'll be pretty tired...

Janez, and if we start from V.S. hut, then the other way - first Špice and then Rjavina?

John, I agree, it can be just one fatal moment, regardless of years of past.
But it can also be fatal if you lose balance because you bumped your helmet somewhere, or sweat under it and it runs into your eyes. Or when via ferrata set slings get caught on a peg or rock. As I say, matter of habit. What seems self-evident to you isn't to others.
To be clear, I have a helmet and kids too. But I don't think it's OK to spit on those who don't (see posts above, which planika38 replied to).

Read the forum... thanks for all info, first time going to this end of the Alps. Very welcome.
Regarding helmet and via ferrata sets, I've been hiking without them for 30 years everywhere, and I'm still whole. Someone can say I have more luck than brains... maybe true But I got used to it, in the 80s it wasn't normal to have so much gear on, which sometimes hinders more than helps (at least me, matter of habit of course).
But it's true, when I started dragging kids along, we got gear. First, it's mandatory (let's leave aside that it's IMPOSSIBLE to get suitable helmets for a 4-year-old girl...). Second, though I don't think I'm a parent who wraps kids in cellophane, on certain paths I'm calmer if those two are tied there. I also became more fearful myself, definitely hormones to blame

...so I agree with planika82, self-belaying is each individual's decision (over 14 years, until then legislation decides for you). The only thing that throws me off is seeing some on 2000+ in flip-flops Footwear really has to be at least somewhat appropriate. I was on Triglav first time in Converse, I think that's the minimum I'm not demanding

@ mailman: thanks also to you for personal experiences! I always count a bit more, slow hiker who often stops, photos, eats... running up and down pointless for me, point is panorama on way Even Spik said 4 hrs from hut, hallo, 5.5h up 5 down... not slim! No prob with chains pegs, scree steep descents kill me most. True north face Prisojnik down, Grintovec -> Češka koča quite fun )) Yeah.

Oh fool, how didn't I think of it
So:
Elevation diff on route: 2400m - 1360m = ca. 1000m;
Hiking time: 8h30min - 3h45min = ca. 5h

that would fit Yesterday on Spik, barely alive, but already planning next tour Skrlatica, I'm coming

Thanks, nata24!

Hi mountaineers

Anyone have experience on path Pogačnikov dom - Skrlatica - Pogačnikov dom? Elevation diff on path, or how long it takes?
Would like to go to Skrlatica, but alas even from Aljažev dom, shortest route (6h, 1800m diff, all x2) too much for my knees one day