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geofor5. 02. 2026 20:47:53
Some just always want to be right.

I just wrote facts, I didn't deny, even confirmed that on some maps, especially online ones, they are marked as Turška vrata.
But I don't intend to search all maps and find out on which one this naming is first mentioned. I cited a very relevant source that good topography experts surely know (Quo-on it there are also some old editions of hiking maps).

Someone has already dealt with Turški vratci, look at the entry on the website:
https://www.snezak.si/razmere/pomladno-lahkotna-komna-5-enigma.html

We don't get an answer why they are named that way, but we see that someone marked it that way on some map once...and it was passed on.

On the official map of the Survey Administration of the Republic of Slovenia, which is the only authority for such things, they don't know this naming.

Which of course doesn't mean that commercial map publishers can't use a name that seems right to them because they saw it somewhere.

And about locals, yes in Henrik Tum's time that held, now caretakers aren't necessarily, or not at all locals, this year from one end, next year from another, chamois apparently don't speak yet.

And for me it doesn't matter if they are Turkish or Slovenian or some other Vratca, nor what they are called, I just wanted to explain that the matter has its history, which isn't sufficiently researched.

And those 35+ years. I first walked there in 1976, but don't remember what it was called, maybe doors nasmeh.

But I (doors) close them with this entry, as continuing doesn't seem sensible to me. Good evening!
geofor5. 02. 2026 13:59:41
Turška vratca appear on newer maps. I reviewed Quo, until less than ten years ago the bible of hiking maps and topographic maps. There are no Turška vratca neither on 1:25 000 nor on TTN 1:10 000, let alone on 1:50 000 Julijske Alpe east, TNP 1:50 000, where you find all gates and little gates: Bogatinsko sedlo (Vratca), then Mala vrata, Velika vrata. Also on the fairly new TNP map of the Alpine Association of Slovenia 1:50 000, we find all the above, only no Turška vratca.
I don't know on which map or net record the name first appeared, it surprises me though, since nothing in the mountains changes as fast as in the valley.
Of course I accept the fact that the entry Turška vratca exists on new online published maps, probably first appeared on OpenStreetMap, mapy.cz knows it, outdooraktiv, printed Tabacco as far as I know doesn't, but Kompass doesn't know it. Maybe it would be good to look in Tum's book, Nomenclature of the Julian Alps, or similar literature. Of course, the entry isn't meant to take one side or the other, Cofka probably has her reasons for what she wrote, and Trobec of course has full right from the viewpoint of today's data (maps) to claim what he claims. But for reflection:
when I was young we walked transversals, verticals (SPDT), hiking paths, circuits, later hiking paths, today everything is already trail, who would find their way if another country changed in between nasmeh?
geofor1. 08. 2025 16:49:52
Thanks turbo, but I'd like to find exactly that postcard, memories anyway... nasmeh
geofor28. 07. 2025 20:14:59
Hi!
This isn't a postcard, but I sent an identical picture as a postcard from Uršlja gora sometime in the seventies of the previous century, on my first visit to Uršlja gora. If anyone has such a postcard and it's not important to them, I'll buy it.
geofor6. 07. 2025 22:10:08
geofor6. 07. 2025 18:34:28
geofor4. 07. 2025 19:31:59
Maybe from Brela a bit further, the peak might be Vošac?
geofor17. 05. 2025 20:28:25
A few days ago I read this thought in a very interesting book:
"Climb the mountain so you can see the world and not so the world can see you!"
geofor29. 04. 2025 22:31:41
geofor26. 04. 2025 06:46:37
Hey, Piotr give another one, please.
geofor24. 04. 2025 12:11:28
Could it be the two Kogla - Gleichenberger and Stradner?
geofor13. 04. 2025 20:58:46
Slender grobelnik
geofor9. 04. 2025 15:48:54
geofor3. 04. 2025 12:07:27
@SilvestrO, please continue, I knew the answer myself as soon as I saw the picture. I just wanted more people to join in finding the correct answer. Nice sunny day to everyone!
geofor2. 04. 2025 14:24:47
Are there at least two mountain huts near the summit?
         
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