13.7. from Kamnik saddle. Part of path when at fork for Brana and Turska gora we head to Turska, after crossing meadow and steep descent before starting ascent to Kotlice there's a snow patch on path. Very demanding to bypass, we without winter gear turned back.
Turned back also some with winter gear from other direction, though their path lengthened by a few hours. Otherwise some crossed, but really crumbly, without grip and demanding, even for experienced
