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Gartnerkofel, Malvuerich Alto

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Rok8. 09. 2007 18:13:11
This morning I went from Mokrin (Nassfeld Pass) to Gartnerkofel (2195m). I went up past the Watschiger Alm hut, then along the eastern side to the top (easy route). I descended along the eastern side too then by the direct path to the pass. There's also a climbing route to the top along the NW ridge. This route isn't secured and the markings looked pretty faded.
Since I had enough time I also went to Malvuerich (1899m). Up the western side past the Baita Winkel hut (a bit exposed in the upper part), down the eastern side.
On the way I saw roe deer, marmots, mice, snakes, cows, bulls.
Otherwise no snow in the Carnic Alps. None visible towards Coglians (2780m) either.
Best, Rok
Gartnerkofel, Malvuerich Alto Lake at Nassfeld pass1
Gartnerkofel, Malvuerich Alto Trogkofel2
Gartnerkofel, Malvuerich Alto Watschiger Alm hut3
Gartnerkofel, Malvuerich Alto Gartnerkofel4
Gartnerkofel, Malvuerich Alto Marmot by the path to Gartnerkofel.5
Gartnerkofel, Malvuerich Alto Marmot by the path to Gartnerkofel.6
Gartnerkofel, Malvuerich Alto Malvuerich Alto.7
Gartnerkofel, Malvuerich Alto Ladder during descent from Malvuerich8
Gartnerkofel, Malvuerich Alto Goat on the path towards Malvuerich9
Gartnerkofel, Malvuerich Alto Goat on the path towards Malvuerich10
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Guest22. 09. 2007 08:21:07
Was the marmot being photographed for a personal document? Or maybe it was just waiting for the film so it could start working.
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triglavski20. 11. 2008 17:43:35
Today 20.11.08 I climbed both Malvuerics. Planned from the road to passo Pramolo, but it's still (until 28.11.08) closed, so I chose Studena Bassa as starting point and first on foot along steep private road, then path 433A to nice clearing with (hunting hut) and further on 433 to Sella della Pridola, from there along western ridge on Via Alta C.A.I. Ponetebba path to the top. Since the path turns to north side in upper part, I waded up to 30 cm dry snow, ice axe helped on exposed spots. From top I went to little Malvuerich and then back to valley. Although both in shadow of much more known M. Cavalla, they are wonderful viewpoints worth visiting.
Barrier on private road1
Valley under M. Cavallo, weekends and farmsteads above 1100 meters2
Hunting cabin, behind M. Cavallo3
Beautiful and interesting path - mulatjera to Pridola saddle4
left Creta Grauzaria and right Monte Sernio5
Monte Cavallo, Rosskofel, Konjiški špik6
Ruins of military facility under Pridola saddle7
Northern snowy side of the mountain8
Up here it will be needed9
Grassy southern side and sheer northern side of the western ridge10
Passo Pramalo, Nassfeld pass or Mokrine pass, Austrian mountains in the background11
Wish bell - I hope they come true, behind M. Cavallo12
Mists and fog over Kanal Valley13
Viš, Koštrun towers and Montaž14
Hunting lodge once again, behind M. Malvueric Alto15
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VanSims3. 10. 2011 11:09:01
Since it was necessary to use the last nice weekend for the mountains, I of course did it. Saturday morning I drive by car to the junction of gravel from the road to Mokrine (people only get it if I say "Nassfeld", which is a shame in my opinion) and park.

Down the road across the clearing then I bite into the steepness, which is quite substantial. Chain and ladder don't cause me bigger problems and already I'm out of morning shade on sunny side with beautiful view to Julijci. From there the path is nice and in easier ascent leads to saddle, where I turn right to the top. 10 minutes and I'm there.

For a hill almost 1900 m the view is fantastic and doesn't match at all the Italian translation Malurha i.e. Malvuerich, which could also mean 'poor viewpoint'. velik nasmeh You see everything from Tur (with prominent Hochalmco and Veliki klek) to Julijci (no need to list all peaks), what is left of Konjski špik might already be Dolomites (at least Lienz ones). In opposite direction after antenna we immediately recognize Dobrač.

On top I get into conversation with an Englishman who has a house under Ojstrnik (probably retiree). He also praises our beautiful country where he hiked a lot then we get into debate about via ferratas. In England (as almost everywhere else in world) they don't have them and there were lots of polemics around opening first private ferrata and owner barely got permit. I tell him that although it seems here everything is under iron, we also have big polemics about it.

Descend via path over Pridola (picture 4 in triglavski's report) and Planina Winkel back to road then I have good kilometer trudging on road to car and drive to Belopeška lakes, afternoon goal ahead.
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svicr29. 10. 2011 23:49:00
For today's trip we chose Krniške skale - Gartnerkofel (2195m). From parking at already closed Plattner hut we went by road to hut on Watschiger planina. From there on footpath across slightly frozen meadows. Almost no snow remnants here anymore. A bit below saddle Kuhweger Torl (1912m) we turned right and over scree and snow remnants reached top of ski slope. On eastern side soon reached small saddle where there was some more drifted snow, but no problems. Cross already showed and only grassy slope under summit separated us from it. We took break on top as it was pleasantly warm. Views all around wonderful. On way back we climbed also to saddle Kuhweger Torl and after few minutes ascent to neighboring summit - Kammleitn (1955m). Descent to start was real autumnal as larches glowed in warm colors of afternoon sun.
parking lot at Plattner hut1
in the background Veliki Koritnik2
saddle Kuhlweger Torl and summit Kammleiten3
island Dobrač4
along the eastern side of Krniške skale, to the saddle below the summit5
Krniške skale - Gartnerkofel (2195m)6
winter snapshot7
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true autumn colors9
pond of beautiful reflections10
idyllische hut on the mountain pasture Watschiger Alm11
Krniške rocks and their reflection12
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svicr27. 11. 2011 22:17:59
Today's plan was Malvueric alto. This time we went from Tablja (Pontebba) towards Mokrine pass, but only to the junction of the forest road at 1020m. We left the car before the barrier and continued along the main road for another 100m. On the left side of the road at the sign for path no.433 we stepped onto a nicely preserved mule track and climbed it to the saddle below M. Malvueric basso. There joins path 433a from Studena bassa. Here starts the nicest part of the mule track, which takes us through two interesting tunnels, over a little bridge and over several nice passages under the southern face of Malvueric all the way to Pridola saddle. We had a short break at the saddle, then climbed the western ridge to the top. The path along the ridge was dry, even on the part where the path turns to the north side. The views from the top were wonderful in all directions. We descended to the valley along the eastern side past M. Malvuerica basso, enjoyed the warm autumn rays and went back to our starting point along path 433.
starting point in the Bombaso river gorge1
Nice forest road runs alongside the mule track for a while.2
Already almost at the saddle, below M. Malvuerich basso.3
Intersection of the mentioned mule tracks ...(variant from Studena bassa).4
View of the Pricot alpine pasture.5
Autumn snapshot.6
After all these years it still stands.7
Konjiški špik in the distance.8
Through the tunnel window it again.9
All riddled like a sieve.10
Military objects at Pridola saddle.11
M. Malvuerich Alto - west ridge12
view from the ridge to Mokrine13
...to Krniške skale14
our mighty trio15
another look back, to the conquered summit16
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shadows are lengthening, the day is coming to an end, it was nice...18
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Irina27. 11. 2011 22:33:50
svicr 27.11.2011

Put up some of those wonderful views so we can enjoy them too.
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rozka28. 11. 2011 16:59:50
Well, across the border again...this time we drive to Tablja-Pontebba for the obligatory morning coffee, then a bit further to Studena Bassa, where we left the car and started ascending very steeply on path 432 which goes along the road. The road ends after less than an hour, but we continued on the forest path 433a, past the hunting hut in an idyllic and scenic spot and higher joined the very nice transverse mule track 433, which goes through two tunnels, a wooden little bridge, stone wall,...at Pridola saddle the views open towards Mokrine (Nassfeld) and Austrian mountains. Then the last ascent on the shady side and we were already at the top of Malurch, with views all around, bathed in sunshine and warm weather. Descended along the ridge to little Malurch and lower caught the path we ascended before. To the road no hands needed, but the road requires hands and brakes, as the steepness is really steeeeepjezik
The tour is really a true autumn fairy tale...nasmeh
cold Studena Bassa, but the road took care of express heating ;)))1
our path2
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hunting hut4
Konjski Špik - Monte Cavallo - Rosskofel5
here the nicest part of the path started6
ascent along the lower one, right goes straight to Malurch7
glimpse along the path8
little bridge9
glimpse10
we came through here ;)11
A little above the Pridola saddle, Mokrine-Nassfeld12
A little further13
Summit Malurch-Malvueric14
Towards Zuc dal Bor15
Dobrač in the background16
Our three giants17
Viš, Koštrunove špice, Montaž...all the way to Strme peči18
Descent also to little M.19
Summit of little Malurch20
We were up there21
The road photo doesn't remotely show how it really is... veeery steeeep22
Snapshot in the shady valley23
Snapshot24
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IgorZlodej28. 11. 2011 17:50:37
I'll add a pic myself, since I was just nearbynasmeh.
this little hunting hut is really in a nice spot1
Konjski Špik from the second tunnel2
towards the summit3
snapshot from the north side4
lake at Mokrine5
Just below the summit, photo: L.M.6
summit, left Konjski špik7
one of the older markers - Mali vrh8
let's go to the little one too, photo: L.M.9
and there really are nice paths around here10
along the path11
in the valley it was quite cold12
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kofetarca28. 11. 2011 23:20:12
I agree with Rozka, it's really such a fairy-tale autumn tour. Thanks Igor for the tips nasmeh
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Kokta11. 03. 2012 22:37:03
Gartnerkofel 11.3.2012....sunny weather....no wind nasmeh
Towards the saddle1
A little higher2
Steps3
Ledge4
Summit5
View of the neighbour6
Gartnerkofel7
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IgorZlodej3. 12. 2012 16:02:13
Above Mokrine there are some nice mountains, suitable also for winter ascents. Today my buddy and I climbed to Krniške skale, of course on skis, because on foot it wouldn't go, there's snow up to half a meter and the real, best powder.
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If the track is made, it goes easier2
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Summit with ugly cross6
Super snow7
For the beginning of winter more than excellent8
Mokrine, now still without crowds9
What doesn't fall from the sky, cannons spew it10
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VanSims12. 07. 2013 21:19:28
Last Sunday I approached Krniške skale (Gartnerkofel) via a slightly different variant than the predecessors and most approaches to this summit.

I start in the village of Möderndorf next to Šmohor, more precisely at the beginning of the picturesque gorge Garnitzenklamm, where I park in the parking lot around 06:30 in the morning. I go into the gorge, which soon shows itself at its best. Beautiful, wild, picturesque. It is divided into four parts. After the first and second part there is an emergency exit, and after the third as well. The path is not entirely simple. The first part is still technically undemanding, the second and third are partially demanding. So be careful on the protections, especially when there is high water, wet conditions,... The last part already borders on a demanding path, so be cautious there with children and the inexperienced! Nevertheless, for an average hiker accustomed to protections, it poses no major problems and the beauty outweighs the effort. Time: good two hours.

After the end, we can of course go back via the other easy path or continue onward. I continue toward Kühweger Alm (good hour). From there onward to Kühweger Thörl (about an hour and a half). From there, the view already opens to Mokrine and all the standard peaks alongside: Malurh, Konjski špik, prominent Veliki Koritnik,... You can approach up to here also from Mokrine (about an hour and a half). From here go right (left if coming from Mokrine) to Kammleiten, known for its interesting rock different from the surroundings and beautiful crystals (about half an hour to the summit).

Well, to the left (right from the Mokrine direction) is where I headed. That is the climbing NW ridge of Krniške skale. But no signpost, no markings zmeden Well, I go about 50-100 m along a poorly visible path and then on the rock under the scree I finally see a red dot. Red dots and lines then lead the entire path. The path is thus well hidden so that someone less experienced, of whom there are surely many around there, does not stray onto it. The climbing should supposedly be UIAA I throughout according to Vid Pogačnik's note on Summitpost (http://www.summitpost.org/north-west-ridge/204826). OK, an expert is an expert, but I think it reaches at least II- at least at some spots (at least the key ones). Also that the path is just 'easy', as written, well, as for whom. zadrega

Well, the path gets quite vertical right at the start, the initial part is the steepest, the rock is fractured, holds are fine. After the steepest section I reach an exposed ramp, at its end I hear people above me, and a stone flies past eek (helmet is of course where it belongs and is recommended for this route). "Achtung!", I shout. The path gets vertical again, and I have to cross the first scary spot, i.e., from the steepness directly into the traverse around the protruding 'nub'. Then I meet those people - Czechs who went down this path. zavijanje z očmi We greet nicely and I continue. The path then becomes a bit easier for a while (walking on grass, paths, occasional climbing...) but the difficulties are far from over. So I reach the point where the summit cross is already visible but that is only about halfway. Right there is the key part of the path. Steep ascent on rock with slightly worse holds, then on the exposed section where on a meter or two you practically have nowhere to step or must proceed carefully step by step. Vid Pogačnik goes through this part confidently with poles in hands. eek velik nasmeh Or he just posed like that for the photo. mežikanje

Even then it is not all over. The steepness eases but the rock becomes somewhat less fractured. Then follows a spot where you have to downclimb a bit and I am already at the spot with the box. Frequency of entries: about 2-3 per day. I learn that those Czechs are from Pardubice. mežikanje From there onward it seems quite steep but when I approach the rock I see a gully in it. Well, here it should go. Somewhere in the middle the dots run out for me. I downclimb and discover they lead left. Well, I follow them and get somewhat confused until I realize that I would reach the same spot if I followed the gully to the end, and it would even be easier. zadrega

Here the climbing is practically over. There follow some exposed passages similar perhaps to that on the Rogatec climbing route before the climbing becomes walking. That happens here too and this path joins the normal route after a minute or two, from there another minute or two to the summit.

SUMMARY: VERY DEMANDING MARKED ROUTE. Markings were obviously renewed (according to Rok's note from 2007). They are red (old faded blues are still visible in some places). On the path you need to be careful because there is a lot of scree, holds and steps are quite stable. At the start the path is steep, later less so, at the start the rock is well fractured, later a bit less. Although it is a ridge, the path is abyss-exposed only at some places, so it is not that classic ridge (à la Triglav) where we see drops left and right simultaneously. The mountain's structure here is something special, i.e., gullies, towers,... and precisely on the climbing route you see the true meaning of the Slovenian name Krniške SKALE - the route is very picturesque. The route is NOT secured. There is not a single protection, and if I remember correctly no pegs for rope belay either. And since I already mentioned the Rogatec climbing (which is also unsecured): this one is a grade harder than that. Still, I think that whoever managed Rogatec without problems and generally has at least some experience from very demanding routes or better yet demanding pathless terrain, should not have major problems here.

On the summit the panorama was quite good. Italian Julian Alps are visible (up to ours somehow not), along the Carnic ridge to Ojstrnik, to Coglians, and south to Canal Valley, north Gail Valley and Gailtal Alps and of course Dobrač. Well, the remaining Dolomites (also Lienz) and High Tauern are hidden.

I descend the normal route and treat myself to a beer at the upper cable car station, then back to Kühweger Thörl and Kühweger Alm. There I get hungry and order a Bretteljause, i.e., sausage, fatback, cheese on a plate with bread and beer. It went down very well. Well, the landlady (after asking where I come from) surprises me with Slovenian, which she learned for two years in school. She searched for words a bit (I had to whisper some to her) but she did quite well. There was also a black dog (similar to a Newfoundland) that constantly watched me. I don't know if because I was a foreigner or my sausage smelled good to it! zmeden velik nasmeh

The host tells me where I can go back. He described the path well but I searched for it a bit due to slightly poorer marking (yes, it happens with Austrians too). Actually, on one part of the path there were practically no markings. zadrega Then I hear the stream from the gorge again and reach the nice church St. Urbani above it. It is a couple of minutes off the path, it was open and seemed quite nice to me. From there I have another good half hour to the car. On the way back I make a detour to Trbiž for ice cream (Italians have better than Austrians) and from there of course home.

Super trip!
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funnyboy25. 07. 2013 15:00:00
Impressions of a pleasant weekend in the Carnic Alps
http://graheljsblog.blogspot.com/2013/07/konje-jahat-po-avstrijsko.html
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ciklama15. 09. 2013 22:09:37
Yesterday we did this tour with a group in beautiful weather. Despite the longer drive to the starting point, it's a wonderful tour, suitable practically for everyone. From the saddle onwards, views opened up to the peaks all around. The summit is a popular spot for day-trippers, so there was a fitting crowd on top. According to the forecast, the summit will soon be snow-covered. But we experienced it in all its beauty!
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JORDAN27. 07. 2014 19:46:32
Last Sunday we already climbed to the top of Krniške skale via the normal route. The peak is very popular and there was also a celebration at Watschiger Alm - polenta and špeha festival where Italians and Austrians competed. On the ascent from the upper cable car station towards the saddle between both peaks we could observe enthusiasts who were ascending what I think is a completely new ferrata which is routed over towers and connected between them with wire bridges. Even though I checked the internet up and down I didn't find any notice or ad for the new ferrata. The ferrata looks quite demanding as viewed from the path (I think it can have a D spot), time-wise I think it takes you 1.5 hours if there's no traffic. Today there were a lot of visitors on the ferrata. Does anyone maybe have more accurate info on the difficulty of this ferrata?
welcome also in Slovenian-very commendable1
at the upper cable car station2
view of the ski slope3
towards the summit4
view back-in the middle tower under which is the entrance to the ferrata5
at the summit6
starting tower and first bridge7
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VanSims27. 07. 2014 20:54:23
http://www.bergsteigen.com/klettersteig/kaernten/karnischer-hauptkamm/daeumling-klettersteig

Not that hard. Tempts me already. velik nasmeh The old free-climbing route still remains (see my post above), because it's routed on a completely different end of the mountain (see photo gallery on the link). It would be a shame to destroy it, then I'd start understanding those who complain that ferratas destroy free-climbing routes. mežikanje
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sla28. 07. 2014 08:39:51
Another "adrenaline park" - disaster jezen
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jax2. 08. 2014 17:49:43
Here, I tried it ;-)
Basically, the ferrata is a real "Austrian" one - adrenaline-pumping, steep, airy, attractive and slightly silly. But it's fun. It doesn't rank among the very demanding ferratas, but it's by no means easy. Especially at the key spot you sweat a bit. That spot is also slightly "Austrian" - it's a very steep wall with bad footholds, where the equipper for some unknown reason (I suspect he ran out of schnapps) decided not to put any pegs. And then you have to fight your way over. Except for a few such goodies, the ferrata is otherwise well protected, and I especially like that sections on steep grass are protected too.
The bridges - khm, the first one is totally crazy. The thing is it's a quite long traverse on one wire. And since the wire is so long, it swings like mad during crossing, which causes a decent pulse rise already at the entry. Probably the equippers had that in mind. Above there are two more such traverses, but shorter and no problem, the long bridge is nicely fun.
Basically, it's no great classic, but for a short trip it can be quite suitable. And ferrata enthusiasts will enjoy it, no doubt. Oh, the west ridge which I also had in mind, I gave up due to slightly suspicious weather. In the end it looked doable, but that's how it is.

Here are two more pics:
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slavi09022. 08. 2014 22:01:34
Just like my predecessor, we two also tried this ferrata today and I completely agree with the predecessor, just adding that on the first wire bridge I had the feeling like on a "rodeo", the wires dance so much that adrenaline really gets released well, the weather was all sorts, sun, fog, wind, maybe something else brewed too, considering how black it was around....attaching picsnasmeh
Daumling Via Ferrata & Gartnerkofel 2195m1
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bagi2. 10. 2014 21:07:54
@ Däumling-Klettersteig ... ferrata in the direct vicinity of Gartnerkofel on the Mokrine or rather a good hour's drive from Gorenjska. It's a modern technical C category ferrata deliberately routed so there's always enough air under the feet velik nasmeh. It's fun but especially the first crossing over the bridge makes a selection between those who can and those who can't eek. Don't underestimate it, predecessors have already written theirs. And of course don't be scared of it, because for the experienced it offers plenty of enjoyment nasmeh. For illustration here are some pics .....

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