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| geofor1. 12. 2023 08:04:33 |
With such a wonderful description, someone remembers that one word or place name is "wrong". You overlooked that @bagi named all other places in Slovenian language, while quite logically using one name in Italian. Who do you think will post more if you pounce on him like rabid dogs? And did you perhaps notice that there's a comment with every picture that explains a lot and also tells us why the picture is there. Not 57 or however many pictures without comments... . Thanks bagi for the excellent contribution, I got a great tip for getting to know the border areas.
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| ločanka1. 12. 2023 09:01:22 |
I take such a comment as well-meaning. bagi explained according to his belief and that's it. Anyway I don't think there's too little posting on this forum, but mainly too little commenting. If it's commented, that's a sign it was read and pictures viewed. Comments are very welcome 
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| mosovnik1. 12. 2023 10:53:19 |
@bagi: "hats off" for all your descriptions of your paths. @geofor: veeery well said !!! Because of such "couch observers/commentators" probably many contributors don't post anything on this forum.
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| mukica1. 12. 2023 13:48:32 |
@bagi: congratulations to both for super hikes, presentations and descriptions...many discover beautiful places this way, get ideas and at the same time the desire to perhaps hike them ourselves someday. I used to like describing my hikes and especially the conditions on those paths. Now just because of the "know-it-alls" I don't bother anymore, waste of time and energy 
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| ločanka1. 12. 2023 13:53:40 |
mukica, what a shame! We enjoyed reading your posts . Know-it-alls are everywhere you look anyway, I wouldn't give up because of them  
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| jprim1. 12. 2023 15:06:31 |
@geofor dropped like rabid dogs See, you didn't choose a patient context either. LP!
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| tulipan1. 12. 2023 15:40:29 |
Rain is still falling, also in Trieste, Gorizia and Cividale
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| bagi1. 12. 2023 16:47:48 |
Thanks everyone for interesting opinions, especially those who recognized the basic purpose of my posting . This topic is gnawed to the bone and it's time for some new post. Proper Slovenian, or not .
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| bagi5. 12. 2023 14:17:45 |
Evening snowfall changed our plans for the next day and the Karst quickly appeared again as an alternative goal. As close to the sea as possible so it doesn't slip, so we cross the border to Italy again. This time we moved closer to Trieste and the aim was to hike the area between Križ and Opčine on still unknown paths. As the main goal we set Miramare Castle and Briška Cave, everything else the path will bring. And it did, as always . We started on the Slovenian side, in Voglje. It's a small village and parking space is not plentiful. No problem, as there are probably not many visitors anyway. But Google doesn't deliver here elegantly via Italy and not Sežana, so beware all who don't know the traffic connections in these areas. We were at the neighbors already after just over 100 meters. Soon we caught the marked path number 3, which we had followed for quite a while last time. Obviously intended for the border zone. Numerous turnoffs followed, where without prior route planning we wouldn't find our way. I call this homework, the goal is not to waste time unnecessarily and to set the framework we can hike. Usually works . Here I should point out a very poorly visible section of the path that crosses the motorway before Briščiki. Officially these are the blue markings of the VertSPDT path, in reality hard to follow. GPS track is more than recommended here, the main target is the motorway viaduct, under which you reach a more trodden trail on the other side. We saw everything that interested us. We liked Miramare Castle and its surroundings, but unfortunately we ran out of time for visiting Briška Cave. Also very interesting is the Marian sanctuary at Vejna, which in my opinion has gone beyond the bounds of good taste. More info on the route as always in the photos ... Coordinates of the starting point (Voglje village): 45°43'46.0"N 13°48'29.3"E
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| bagi6. 12. 2023 08:06:54 |
Thanks Bojan, for the idea and the verses. First time reading them and it's hard to present the Karst more beautifully .
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| bagi24. 12. 2023 07:14:38 |
No we haven't, these are more local secrets . There are enough everywhere, we just don't know them. When I e.g. researched the background of objects on Monte Nebria I discovered this near Ukev ... https://www.frontieraest.it/en/ugovizza-eng/
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| VanSims15. 01. 2024 12:56:12 |
Bagi, thanks for the description. This weekend I walked the first of the paths. First warnings: 1. The path from the viewpoint above Koglje to Koča Premuda has quite a mountainous character, is exposed and, due to scree, dangerous for slipping. Caution is not superfluous, especially for lower mountain hikers who are not used to high mountain paths. 2. GPS app (Orux for me), not only welcome, but mandatory. Without it I would have got lost back to Slovenia already at Botač or gone on the otherwise nice panoramic path directly to Premuda (also closed for me around eleven, still closed), but missed the viewpoint above Koglje, which is definitely worth visiting. Not to mention the labyrinth of paths and trails from Hrvati to and across Bazovica, all the way to the monument to the Bazovica victims. Further to Kokoš there are blue-white 'knafelj' markings. Part of the path from Hrvati to Nemogoča jama runs above the climbing area and Via ferrata Bruno Biondi (was there about 5 years ago) Except in the morning when it was about 2 to 3 below zero (a year and a day after Bagi's visit ), no special frost for me, no bora either. But in the morning, on the bike trail of the former line, it was already full of Italian cyclists even now. I rode this trail myself about 15 years ago (Kozina - Trieste - Opčine tram (still running then) - Orlek - Lipica - Bazovica - Kozina) From the description of Nemogoča jama I learned that a commission was 'purposefully' established to explore it 
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| bagi16. 01. 2024 08:17:05 |
No problem Simon . Nice places and if you need a GPS track, just let me know.
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| bagi23. 01. 2024 13:57:04 |
Snowfall and really annoying frost in most of Slovenia are responsible for another visit to the neighbors, this time the eighth. We've already explored quite a lot around there, still plenty new awaits us . This time the area along the Italian part of the Soča was on turn, which one could calmly name after the paths of the Soča front. In the fierce battles between Austria-Hungary and Italy many Slovenes lost their lives here too, and they don't say *Doberdob, grave of Slovenian boys* for nothing. Sad for them, as sad for hundreds of thousands of other military souls who lost lives in these places in the name of political interests. That the first battle lines ran here I noticed already in the first part of the path, on the peaks of Monte S. Michele. It has four peaks, one of them also has a Slovenian name Debela Griža. You don't see so many trenches, dugouts and underground labyrinths often. The ridge was held by Austro-Hungarian units, especially many Hungarian soldiers. Streets in the nearby village Martinščina (San Martino del Carso) are named after them. Also the hill Mali Brestovec in the last part of the path is absolutely worth seeing. It's full of holes, the underground labyrinths arranged for viewing. There's an open-air museum with explanations of the events then. Most are also written in Slovenian, so understanding won't be a problem. To the highest point of the hill we come via a trail around the hill. There are also some panels with explanations and a large obelisk in memory and reminder. But what impressed me most was the endless ossuary on the slope of the hill Sei Busi next to the village Sredipolje (Redipuglia). There are remains of 100,187 soldiers of the 3rd Italian army who fell on the front along the Soča river. This is the largest such monument in all of Italy, perhaps even Europe. It's basically a huge terraced staircase, at the top of which stand three stone crosses. There are 22 terraces, on them in alphabetical order remains of 39,857 identified soldiers. At the top under the crosses there are also two huge tombs covered with copper plates. There remains of 60,330 soldiers whose origin couldn't be determined. And impressions when walking among tens of thousands of dead? Surprise, sadness, anger, above all respect ... Coordinates of start (Miren): 45°53'40.8"N 13°36'30.1"E
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| piotr23. 01. 2024 15:32:51 |
Instructive, exciting and in short, great presentation of the borderland..
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| bagi13. 02. 2024 11:32:59 |
For this visit to the neighbors we chose a shorter and more leisurely ramble, just right for the worse weather forecast. The topic title is Trieste Karst, so we headed straight to Trieste. On foot of course . We parked in Bazovica, which we visited in one of the previous explorations. But there are many paths in these areas and mostly routes can be planned without repetition. Also this time it was so and on an unknown path we were quickly in Trieste. Once the center was teeming with Yugoslavs, now it's a clean, orderly city. Trieste experienced its greatest boom during Austria-Hungary, when it was the main port of the monarchy. Appropriately to history, there's much to see in the city and a walk through the central part was a special pleasure. We returned on the route of the former narrow-gauge railway connecting Trieste and Poreč. It was 123 km long and had 11 bridges, 6 viaducts and 35 stops. Much of it is still preserved, the route turned into a bike and hiking path. In the hinterland of Trieste the path is covered with some kind of asphalt, further on it's gravel base. Surprisingly we didn't meet many cyclists, although usually it's full of them. Maybe the weather and not very friendly temperatures were to blame, but it suited us fine . Soon we were high above Trieste, where at Jezero we turned towards Bazovica and after less than an hour arrived at the start. More in the photo story ... Coordinates of start (Bazovica): 45°38'34.9"N 13°51'58.8"E
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| bagi14. 02. 2024 11:25:13 |
Thanks for the links . We have already seen these places, especially because here is the start of the interesting Camino Celeste path. This is the Italian variant of the Camino de Santiago with ending at Višarje, just like our Gorenjska branch. Another link ... CLICK
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