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lijaneja9. 08. 2023 12:33:37
In Carinthia and Škofja Loka area it was really bad, but Kamnik end is somewhat neglected by media. After three days helping relatives and friends I went yesterday to inspect the road between cable car and Stahovica. Luckily my fear that it would be destroyed like in '90 when they had to repave the whole section subsided quickly, as at least the upper part did quite well. But first it will be necessary to remove all deposited material and reinstall fence at least at five spots, at three spots I fear one-way traffic will last several years. Under cable car about twenty cars from at least six countries are stuck. Hope police put up some cameras, too many thieves here... Machinery is only at Gams yet and I doubt they'll open more mountain huts this year. From Kamnik side only Domžalski dom remains and will remain open.
Apocalypse Completely alone...1
Apocalypse ... at least from six different countries.2
Apocalypse The parking lot was not spared either.3
Apocalypse First harbinger of bad weather.4
Apocalypse This little slide is not yet fatal.5
Apocalypse Damaged fence, the hayrack withstood.6
Apocalypse 100 meters further7
Apocalypse 200 m ahead, the first major blockage.8
Apocalypse After two bends already...9
Apocalypse ...huge landslide debris...10
Apocalypse ...and much destruction.11
Apocalypse Right after that, new debris, this time with trees.12
Apocalypse At the next one I realize that I am not the first here.13
Apocalypse The fence didn't hold here either...14
Apocalypse ...but at least the road remained untouched.15
Apocalypse The worst blockage, five meters high.16
Apocalypse Already almost on the level ground where the river has enlarged the bend even more.17
Apocalypse Here I felt dread...18
Apocalypse ...that I would spot a toppled house, but only the car fared badly.19
Apocalypse The excavator is deepening the channel since the road is completely buried in sand.20
Apocalypse With heavy machinery they broke through to Gams.21
Apocalypse Water flows along the road for a length of 500 m.22
Apocalypse The riverbed is still wide, the water turbid and raging, even though five days have passed since the main event.23
Apocalypse Below the Calcit quarry.24
Apocalypse Past Calcit and through the village Županje Njive winds an ugly brown snake.25
Apocalypse At the barriers in Stahovica26
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Trobec9. 08. 2023 14:22:35
In person things are much more horrific than from media. mrk pogled

Yesterday after shift in Mengš... cleaning trash (well, destroyed property). Whole street, about 30 houses, same story at each. Huge pile of material in front of house. Mostly destroyed furniture. And towing cars, some mud up to roof. At landfill huge piles...
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zokipoki9. 08. 2023 14:47:13
I have no pics, because I wasn't in the mood for photos at all. But can tell upper Savinja is practically destroyed from Mozirje to Solčava! mrk pogled
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Kafetarca9. 08. 2023 19:40:41
Lijaneja, do you know anything about K.B. valley there at the hut in Kamniška Bistrica? Is anything destroyed there too?
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lijaneja9. 08. 2023 20:13:38
Sadly I don't know. But I'm afraid it's worse higher up. Especially Kamniška Bela and Sedelšček from Repov kot might be severely eroded.
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Kafetarca9. 08. 2023 20:59:47
Hm, I kinda thought so... With boyfriend we debated KB valley and Logar valley, he thinks they were spared, I think not.

But now noticed that cars trapped at lower cable car station are actually all intact, the whole time thought they were destroyed. Poor tourists, left without vacation and without car.
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grega_z_brega9. 08. 2023 21:01:38
He should pay for your dinner.nasmeh
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ppegan10. 08. 2023 06:03:14
Yes, really, poor tourists jezen What about our poor people who lost houses and homes and the floods took everything from them zmedenzmedenzmeden But that's not even important. Oh boy, it really horrifies me how some of you think up here. Tourists in these conditions are actually the last concern, more of a burden, because they still stupidly crawl up the hills so already overburdened GRS guys have to rescue them.
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pantani110. 08. 2023 06:29:52
lijaneja, really horrible. When you see photos, you realize the power of nature. Poor people, I was after devastation in Sneberje at cousin's where we cleaned three days just the pigsty that Sava brought. Destroyed all furniture and all white appliances. But maybe someone knows how is road Cerklje-Krvavec? Thanks Lp.
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trilko10. 08. 2023 09:37:24
Grad-Lower cable car station-Štefanja Gora still closed, for road to Krvavec I haven't seen anywhere that it's closed.
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pantani110. 08. 2023 11:23:27
If that part of road is closed (as you wrote), then from Cerklje direction can't go by road to Krvavec.
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Kafetarca10. 08. 2023 12:28:07
Ppegan, under no circumstances did I want to downplay the seriousness of the situation people hit by floods faced. What happened to them is horrible.

But probably you wouldn't scream with joy either if you were evacuated in the middle of vacation, then left without the car where you probably left some stuff, and then someone tells you you're just an extra burden anyway. Don't attack where not needed. Compassion for all who suffered in floods, also foreigners.
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ppegan10. 08. 2023 13:43:52
Kafetarca, I really wouldn't scream, but would still be alive and with a roof over my head at home. And to the car left at the parking lot I could eventually get. Just the vacation that for many is luxury I would shorten. So not the end of the world, nor bad mood, since I really have no influence on natural disasters. But surely I would empathize with locals and try to help somehow. Foreigners these days really don't pity me, they are just visiting, our disaster doesn't move them much (writing based on what I see on the ground).
But my heart breaks for our people who lost everything and so I try my best to help with collecting food and gear, money transfers and also on-site help. Matr, really weird zmedenzmedenzmeden
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5Xum10. 08. 2023 13:56:55
What is this rambling now, just because someone says "I pity X", must yell at him "what about Y? You don't pity them?!"

Well then all you who pity locals who lost houses: How horrible you are, you pity OUR locals who still have relatives and functioning state from which they'll get help? What about poor Turks who lost whole families in earthquake?! But they don't pity you at all? You amoral nihilistic MONSTERS!!!

This pity competition is pure idiocy. If we can never pity someone who fares better than some third, then at every moment we must pity only and exactly one person.
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lijaneja10. 08. 2023 14:32:03
Forum admin, please from Greg from (dry) shore onwards 'wash away' the stuff or move elsewhere.
Thanks
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VanSims10. 08. 2023 15:42:12
Will we here too, like with covid, come to occupation of topic by a few paid trolls working for certain political stream whose only literature are conspiracy sites and quasi-scientific ramblings and bangings?
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pantani110. 08. 2023 19:41:31
Van, are you provoking again?!!!
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hočo10. 08. 2023 21:27:42
Pantani, as far as I know, you can get to the Gostilna pod Krvavcem. Thus, also by car to Krvavec or Jezerca.
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pantani111. 08. 2023 06:09:07
OK, thanks for the info. Lp
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GMh3. 10. 2023 14:44:50
Hi!

Is access by car to Dom planincev in Logarska dolina possible?
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