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zokipoki16. 12. 2018 18:58:47
Yesterday Geppo got me just riled up enough that today I had to go on the den search part two. Happy to say I succeeded. From Nazarje I drove into Črni graben where I parked about a third of the way along the road through the gully and started the hike. Path to Završnik and Jegovnik without issues. At times exposed terrain on steep slopes. Hunting path from Kraple to Orlova peč was trodden by yesterday's team and nicely passable. Terrain got harder again when on the poorly vegetated slope I turned left uphill to Zakrajski peči. When I reached the foot of the cliffs, I first went left and wandered a bit, fell, crawled and cursed. Found two small cavities, no den. I went lower and continued right along the cliffs in the direction of Orlova peč. I searched for the cave that Tonika mentioned and bingo! Found it. I climbed to the crack in the rock and below it spotted the entrance to Jerekov brlog. The den is wonderful and quite well hidden. Returned the way I came. In summer I'll repeat it straight from home. Stay safe!
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geppo16. 12. 2018 20:32:12
Zoki
really glad you saved me from the "nightmare"cool
Last night I dreamed about that den. In the morning I immediately sat at the computer and studied the thing. Found out we passed right by the entrance. The participant was already climbing towards the hole in the wall, but stopped a few meters before because we "speedsters" rushed ahead. She told us about it at Bohač, but we thought "yeah right, not true"...
Thanks for exploring it now and relieving me of wondering where we goofed? Now I know exactly where it is! Think the hunters will reckon a herd of wild boars passed by herebig grin
cheers
We went past here. A few meters below it.1
From the cave cadastre, this is the label2
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zokipoki6. 01. 2019 18:41:05
Originally planned just a short exploration of Tajna, but the route played tricks on us. Started at Lazah following marks to Čreta to the start of Tajna ridge. From there along the wide ridge partly our way, partly over easy rock jumps through the nice world of Tajna. From Tajna summit (640m) where there's a hunting observatory, continued to Kraplet and on along the hunting path to the passage (gully) in Zakrajskih peči. From there to Križ which was very visited today. From Križ left under Kokarca (1006) onto some cart track that soon brought us to the marked path to Farbanci. Tea and slivovitz at Farbanci. Down to Mostni graben and back to Laze. Conditions excellent. Good base, dry rock. Occasional gusts. Very nice.
Safe travels
On the ridge of Tajna.1
Ridge of Tajna.2
On the ridge.3
Glimpse.4
Scrambling.5
Tomi is posing.6
Towards the summit of Tajna (640m).7
At the top.8
On the path on the western side of Tajna.9
Exploring the rocky slopes of Tajna.10
The beauty of Tajna.11
Enjoyment.12
View.13
Towards Zakrajski peči.14
In the gully.15
In the gully.16
At the cross on Čreta.17
We're going our own way.18
Interesting passage.19
At the mountaineers' hut on Farbanec.20
Along the path.21
Along the path.22
Towards Laza.23
Laze.24
Path.25
Statistics.26
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andi223. 04. 2019 07:36:06
Some observations yesterday from grassy ridges above Vransko to Čreta. Walked a bit below Peternišek over Peterniškov grič up, past the climbing crag to Dom na Čreti, circled Zahojnikov vrh and back over Stopniški grič (names copied from map). Didn't take pics, nice day didn't feel like itwink path over Peterniškov grič is well trodden and partly marked, but start is tricky. It's by the road lower (vikendi), higher there's weird situation with end of road (both directions) full of handmade warning signs (fierce dogs, beware fierce dogs, private, private - passage forbidden etc...) so didn't go theresmile Over Stopniški grič it's partly pathless, hence nicer. Won't meet people here, some sections blocked by fallen trees. Recommend on nice weather.
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biba23. 04. 2019 11:57:34
Better avoid that area with "fierce dogs". Don't know current situation, but years ago they attacked a person. Though nice path, been avoiding it since. Also apparently dog/owner issue somewhere on path from Sv. Jošt or Tolsti vrh to Vransko, and some shooting range nearby...?
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andi223. 04. 2019 13:01:33
Felt like it, because I've never seen such warnings anywhere before. But there's a trodden path I mentioned (from vikendi a bit lower - junction unmarked but well trodden), which completely bypasses that area. Higher we reach the ridge clearing, even higher we join the marked path (wooden marks - hop leaf). At Sv. Jošt last year in fog I met a loose huge dog, but very friendly. Once I recovered from fright, we "chatted" a bit.
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Jerry*23. 04. 2019 16:17:16
Path has been rerouted couple years, so doesn't go past Planinc and Ptica farms anymore, no worry. That sarplaninec or karst shepherd dog, can't remember exact breed, can't live 20 years.
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cico23. 04. 2019 16:17:39
Yeah yeah, Medo was just a little beastievelik nasmehvelik nasmeh
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Jerry*23. 04. 2019 16:28:58
Guard lvl: hobby program
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Samorogec29. 04. 2019 18:08:20
biba Right. Marked path blocked by strong electric fence impassable, landowner put up sign about private property and forbidden passage. Problem is you can't get from Sv. Jošt to Vransko anymore except via Čreta, which you don't do if you're coming from there. Did circular from Vransko to Čreta, Tolsti vrh and Sv. Jošt few times, descending to start, but not anymore. Pity cuz really nice loop.
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zokipoki22. 03. 2020 16:10:40
Today after shaky morning from Nazarje through Črni graben to Krapletov vrh, from there to Sv. Matere Božje na Čreti. Real winter idyll. Followed descent to Dobroveljska side to Sv. Janez and Pavel. Plenty of nice views. From chapel back to junction and down the vlaka to the graben where I was in morning.
In Črni graben1
Repuh resists late winter well2
Somehow towards the top of the ridge3
on the path4
Rocky passage on the other side of the ridge5
On Krapletov vrh6
Idyll7
On Čreta8
View towards Čemšenika planina9
A moment10
Holy Mother of God on Čreta11
At the monument12
Through the fissure to the Dobrovlje side13
St. John and Paul on Dobrovlje14
view15
Sheep along the path16
And back into the gully again17
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zokipoki18. 04. 2020 17:54:17
Last five days on Čreta. Five times Križ, five times a bit different. There was a bit of everything, from climbing, scrambling, exploring, excellent trekking and walking on pathless terrain. On old Čreta the walls nicely face the sun, on the north they maintain partial humidity, as does the ground too. Čreta never disappoints. Good luck!
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zokipoki18. 04. 2020 17:54:18
Last five days on Čreta. Five times Križ, five times a bit different. There was a bit of everything, from climbing, scrambling, exploring, excellent trekking and walking on pathless terrain. On old Čreta the walls nicely face the sun, on the north they maintain partial humidity, as does the ground too. Čreta never disappoints. Good luck!
Just right amount of snow cover1
Cross first day2
beautiful view3
Next day completely different story4
Cross second day5
On the northern side6
Jerekov brlog7
Orlova peč8
Cross third day9
Andrejev čiček on the path to Farbanca from Mostnega grabna10
In the forest11
Moment12
Cross fourth day13
Along the path14
In Zakrajskih pečeh15
Farbanca mountaineers' hut16
Our Lady on Čreta17
On Čreta18
Cross fifth day19
Passage in Zakrajskih pečeh20
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geppo18. 04. 2020 18:19:00
A few more times and you'll have the "Way of the Cross" donevelik nasmeh
lp
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zokipoki19. 04. 2020 08:02:19
Be blessed dear geppo velik nasmeh
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zokipoki29. 04. 2020 13:44:17
Today from Mostni graben over Kokarca to Tolsti vrh and back over Zakrajske peči.
Faithful inhabitant of damp hornbeam groves.1
Steep and wonderful path towards Križ.2
At Ropasija at 8:00.3
At the cross4
At Kokarca 1006m.5
Saddle above Ručgarjem.6
Tolsti vrh 1077m.7
At the monument8
...and again deep in the forest.9
Already at Zakrajski peči.10
At Peči11
view12
Good spot.13
Descent, view back.14
During the descent15
Steep beside the wall, view back.16
Adrenaline17
In the Amphitheatre18
Forms and shapes.19
Stone cave.20
View back21
Mini El Capitan22
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andi23. 05. 2020 19:15:15
#Zoran you're advertising this topic so nicely that I visited some areas this afternoon also from the Zadrečka side. Otherwise it looks like the classic from Krokarije (up over Tajno, down over Farbanca), but I didn't walk circularly; instead I visited some targeted goals (pics). I didn't know that from the Kraple farm such a nice view can be seen; I sat for a long time and sipped the beauty. Thanks for the ideas from the posts. lp
Tajna lives up to its name if you approach it along the short ridge1
Otherwise a den, so the resident must be pretty big :)2
Caution - do not underestimate climbing on leaves and rocks3
Visited access to water source too - officially closed4
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zokipoki21. 09. 2020 15:16:39
Hello Čreta lovers (however many of you there are)! velik nasmeh
Yesterday late afternoon I talked with a friend and since Čreta is dear to both our hearts—climbing to him, more hiking to me—the talk quickly turned to these beautiful areas. He told me that once along the road in the direction from Čreta towards Vransko, on the right, a bit further from the E6 junction for Tolsti vrh, he noticed an attached iron ladder that leads higher under the walls, in which one route is bolted (supposedly Gučkova), and there are markings too. This ladder wasn't known to me, as I mostly take paths from the S side of the range, so curious as I am, I immediately jumped in the car and drove to pick blueberries, to see how and what. It was already late. I found the ladder right away and set off on a short exploration. I approached under the walls, noticed the bolted route and markings too. I looked around a bit and followed the overgrown path in the western direction, towards Ropasija. Despite the markings the path is quite hard to follow and after about half an hour it brought me to an isolated chapel in the forest (el. candles still work). From there the path descends south with markings. I figured it leads to the valley and didn't continue down, as the day was approaching its end. Instead I turned right onto an indistinct ridge and soon, still far away, noticed the walls above Ropasija and the cross (viewpoint) on Čreta. There I ended and turned back in the direction I came. When I got home, I looked at two maps of the area and nowhere did I see a drawn path that would lead where I was. I'm curious if anyone happens to know this path, which is nominally marked and must be (IMHO) part of the paths leading to Čreta from Vransko? An abandoned path? Who knows?....
Ladder by the road that leads under the cliffs and to the path1
There are quite a few chamois shelters at the cliffs2
Chapel by the path3
The day is saying goodbye (at Kraplet)4
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Ninđa21. 09. 2020 15:45:29
@zokipoki, that's the charm of exploring. Unfortunately don't know. From which junction do you mean? At Ručgar farm?
Lp, Nino
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zokipoki21. 09. 2020 16:00:56
Not at Ručgar, that part I know.
Ladder located approx there where I drew purple dot, chapel there where blue. velik nasmeh
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