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| Nanook21. 11. 2011 19:23:57 |
Hi, the puppies are of the Shar Pei breed.
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| čara21. 03. 2019 10:50:41 |
Reviving the topic a bit... Last year I tackled my fear. For now only easy paths without abysses. At certain points I stop, and if possible sit and look around, sometimes I stand and hold onto a tree or rock. When there's really no chance of falling down the slope, then I stand and look and try to control the fear.
Fear of heights, falling from heights and vertigo. Even if I'm standing on solid ground in the ground floor of an office building and look up to the third floor, my legs start shaking and my head spins.
I got advice to stand on one leg on some river bridge and look opposite to the current direction. Apparently that's how they train foresters. But the fear has been with me since childhood. Although I climbed trees, mortal fear gripped me on a plane at 4 years old... Interestingly, I don't remember that at all.
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| Medolin26. 05. 2020 15:39:25 |
I don't know if anyone is looking at this after so much time since the last post... but commenting on čara: that's tough if you have problems looking up. But at least you have solid ground under your feet  . My last "adventure" was walking up the skyscraper in Lj. It's been a long time. I felt very uncomfortable and kept walking on the outer side of the stairs, right by the wall. I don't know what the railing is like now, but back then it was very very low. So climbing ridges in the high mountains is history for me. But I admire some female and male hikers who walk right on the edge of sheer walls without a care, like at home on the curb. Maybe more practice would help?
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| samoa29. 05. 2020 21:36:00 |
Čara, foresters have a height check at the doctor where it's determined if someone has height problems.
Mine is a "golcar", and he hasn't even heard of training foresters like that.
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| FrK10. 08. 2020 14:57:46 |
Hello
I also struggle with similar issues. With vertigo, fear of heights, fear of open spaces - whatever it's called.
Personally, in the mountains the most important thing for me is to return to the starting point. Whether I "conquer" the summit or not. Oh, and I've already done the "lower" hills.
But somehow I manage. It started with Komarča. A colleague described the path as easy. For him. I thought on the way that I'd at least die. So hiking in the Valley of the Triglav Lakes turned into a nightmare because due to time pressure I had to go back over Komarča again.
Since my better half doesn't have these issues and doesn't know them, we now have the following recipe. On these pages we look for a summit or path I'd like to hike and seriously study the entire path at home with the map. If I see exposure marks, I check on this site what's waiting on that part of the path.
Later in the mountains I go ahead alone and literally "acclimatize". And after some time I get a feeling if I can manage the continuation of the path (and return to the start). Then I give the "signal" to my better half to join me. And then slowly but surely forward.
And if I'm too slow for the others, we step aside. The important thing is that I feel safe. And this way we managed to hike from Koča na Prehodavcih over Tičarica and Zelnarica to Komarča. And during that I even enjoyed it for about an hour looking into the Valley of Triglav Lakes.
I have to admit though that this fear requires really a lot of inner struggle. But next time I'll definitely try with an experienced mountain guide. Maybe this way I shake off at least part of this fear.
Good luck.
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| starejša10. 08. 2020 18:31:37 |
@Frk, @nanook
and others
I got rid of my fear with tapping. Looks utterly silly, but if you can convince yourselves to at least try, it will work - no need to believe. The method works and that's the main thing for me. It's free, anyone can do it themselves. Sometimes the result is quick, sometimes not - but the main thing is that it is. Like fixing an electrical flow in the body, some kind of acupuncture, just without needles. And common sense remains, so no one thinks otherwise. And muscle fiber too, unfortunately  .
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| mofoslo25. 09. 2020 14:08:29 |
@starejsa
EFT technique then.
I tried some myself in that direction and gave up because no progress. Can you tell more, how long did you do it? Did you go to meetings or just individually? Because for me this didn't help even 1 mm. How serious was your fear? I myself have problems already with 20m towers.... it starts around 8-12m.. Thanks.
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| lepenatka25. 09. 2020 15:35:58 |
I think there's no general recipe for these issues.
I introduced my friend to more "airy" paths very gradually and slowly and the problems are long gone.
It was quite a bad case.
But it's important that he knows he has someone experienced with him and feels safer that way.
In the last 13 years we've crossed most of our summits and some others'. Multiple times.
We both still have respect for the mountains.
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| Loni26. 09. 2020 09:10:13 |
For me it worked to enroll in a sports climbing course. That spring all my fear was gone. I also had the problem that after a severe childhood illness I lost my working balance center, it started functioning after finishing studies, but in between years and years of exercises.
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| andrej.bg27. 09. 2020 18:58:52 |
I think that with age the feeling of discomfort also becomes stronger. About twenty years ago I stood without hesitation on the ninth-floor balcony railing painting the ceiling, today though I look over it very carefully, holding on with both hands.
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| nina427. 09. 2020 19:36:34 |
I agree! This year I went through the gully on Storžič and along the ridge to Prisojnik - neither of the trails seemed exposed and dangerous to me just 3 years ago. This year though...
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| iUnknown28. 09. 2020 09:09:17 |
I think that this "feeling of discomfort" comes more if you don't "train" in certain situations for a while and then simply drop out.
Right now for example I practice some sport unrelated to mountaineering almost every day and I simply notice that the situation worsens when I skip a day. You just need to achieve such automatism that the muscles work on their own and you don't think too much with your head.
I remember that sometimes when we were still elementary school kids we went over Komarča in regular school Adidas sneakers, as if going to Šmarna gora. Even in winter I went up there when there was snow on top. I also went over Srebrno sedlo to Planjava the same way. Once I went in such fog that visibility was only a few meters.
Then I had a knee injury and couldn't go to the mountains for several years. When I went over Komarča alone for the first time again, I didn't feel exactly comfortable.
So I signed up for a sports climbing course and climbed walls, and my condition improved a lot. In my opinion it's quite a cure because you can train in a controlled environment.
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| zokipoki28. 09. 2020 09:15:49 |
I don't know, but to me fear of heights is when you look up and get dizzy. Fear of depth is when you get dizzy when looking down. I think fear is necessary for survival and it's not good to challenge it too much. Lp
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| Trobec28. 09. 2020 21:59:38 |
Somehow in this category... mother-in-law in younger years (childhood and until end of uni) hiked a lot, all possible ZZ trails. In between she "dropped out" and the problem became almost every ridge that had some abyss. But she started hiking more again and gradually the fear lessened until 3 years ago exactly 40 years and 6 days later (she dug out some young hiker's diary somewhere) she stood on Triglav again - without mentionable issues.
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| lepenatka29. 09. 2020 07:00:47 |
That's true.
It's important to maintain that kind of fitness.
Even with me sometimes there was some leg shaking , but I consciously got rid of it.
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| mofoslo9. 11. 2020 11:05:02 |
No technique helps me. No gradual exposure. Still I want to get somewhere higher, but obviously Begunjščica, Boč, Donačka, Ratitovec, Raduha, etc. will be my maximum. I've been trying for 25 years. The funniest thing is, for example.. I manage to get up some tower.. say Boč 20m or Rudnica 40m (where I stop at about 20m)... and next time I go thinking let's go one step further but I stop completely at 12m...  In 2019 I tried via ferratas,.. Hvadnik, Lisca, Boč,... and end.. again can't go further, already Boč was quite tough, or Lisca the last part.
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| lepenatka9. 11. 2020 12:44:34 |
I think that for most who have these problems, towers are more annoying because you look directly at the "bottom".
Mountains are still a bit nicer "routed".
I believe it's tough, especially on such nice days when it's divine in the high mountains.
Unfortunately my municipality has no summits
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