How do you attach the ice axe?
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| svetilnik10. 01. 2017 17:55:39 |
How and where do you attach the ice axe with the elastic strap and carabiner when using it for safety on steep snowy slopes? Around the wrist or to the climbing harness?
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| palček plezalček10. 01. 2017 18:23:26 |
If you attach it with a carabiner through the hole at the pick and to the harness, you can't stab it with the shaft into the slope. A sling through the hole in the adze and around the wrist is better in this case. But it is not best to use it as a belay anchor like that, because it can potentially pull out.
Svetilnik, next time it is best to attach the picture right away, not after 2 days, because you will get a more accurate answer.
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| svetilnik11. 01. 2017 16:10:02 |
Specifically, I mean the harness and carabiner in the picture, as it can easily slip unwanted from the hand.
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| Guest11. 01. 2017 16:20:19 |
In your case, the carabiner goes in/on the harness. Or you can buy a self-tightening loop for around the wrist and thread it through the hole in the adze, as palčekplezalček recommends.
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| viharnik11. 01. 2017 16:26:34 |
The ice axe must always be attached only to the climbing harness and not to the backpack hips or anywhere else. The ice axe in the picture has a slide system and is suitable for climbing as well as pick use in deep snow; straps are a thing of the past.
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| SamoK11. 01. 2017 16:31:36 |
Again a question that gives one goosebumps. Why do you answer this!!
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| Guest11. 01. 2017 16:38:50 |
You are answering because the question was asked. In alpinism, the "slide" system is used more, in mountaineering "straps". And we have a bone to gnaw on again, the question is who will gnaw it first.
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| SamoK11. 01. 2017 16:41:11 |
Proper ice axe use is such a serious matter that it can't be taught via such an amateur forum. Moreover, it's obvious that the asker doesn't know what ice axe to use, let alone how to attach it.
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| Janez Seliškar11. 01. 2017 16:45:25 |
The question is a bit "awkwardly" phrased, but the answer to the topic is only one: to the climbing harness.
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| turbo11. 01. 2017 18:06:09 |
There is a difference between ice axes: ALU for easier approaches and ski touring, and say "forged" for demanding tours, harder approaches, even a nice steep gully e.g. Then there is a difference between ice axe and tool (implement) .... and there are differences between tools (gullies/snow, waterfalls/ice). Every ice axe has its own loop and almost every tool has no loop. And more could be found ... e.g. what to attach where and how.
Anyway, even the worst winter is better than the best summer 
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| Smetar11. 01. 2017 18:33:10 |
@svetilnik:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFKMeujk1to
Like that, in principle this loop (slider) is used. But it's always clipped to the harness (carabiner or cowboy knot).
P.S.
At the end, the "French" way of holding the ice axe is shown,... 
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| dprapr11. 01. 2017 19:44:52 |
Any other suggestion for using these two?
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| dprapr11. 01. 2017 19:51:46 |
Usually just on the backpack.
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| palček plezalček11. 01. 2017 20:01:40 |
Dprapr, this is an eternal tool, it just works and works.... A buddy recently bought one like that with a hammer and shortened the handle. It's great, almost like 'that original hammer'. 
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| viharnik11. 01. 2017 21:16:03 |
I agree with Turbo on everything, same summer - winter
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| grega_z_brega11. 01. 2017 21:31:39 |
Viharnik, your mom will grab you by the ears if you drag it across the parquet with the ice axe.
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| Zebdi12. 01. 2017 08:34:09 |
For safety or for progression? Because for "safety" in principle only one ice axe is used and I never have that one clipped to the harness.
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| viharnik12. 01. 2017 15:57:46 |
I restored it myself
Otherwise, climbing ice axes are always attached to the climbing harness anyway, the hiking ones are also used for self-arrest in case of a slip, which have a longer shaft (handle), so by holding both ends we can hold the ice axe more firmly with less force, we can lie across it with the body. The wrist loop was previously better suited for mixed climbing also with hands, but the safety strap is now a more reliable option in case of slip, so we don't lose the ice axe and also if we miss the first seconds of stopping, the wrist loop over the wrist can tear the arm too if the carabiner gets statically caught somewhere.
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| SamoK12. 01. 2017 17:14:42 |
Now lino also has to chime in, then the asker can safely go onto steep slopes.
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| IgorZlodej12. 01. 2017 19:22:17 |
Even before 1900 they reached almost all the highest peaks of the Alps with such ones
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