Less exposed secured paths
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| megalodon5. 09. 2016 15:33:43 |
Family mi2+3  we hike a lot in our hills, now we'd like to try some secured path. I'd be very happy for your suggestions (I know, subjective opinion, but still) for secured paths that are not overly exposed/airy. We were e.g. on the "climbing" one to Pristovski Storžič and the hunting one to Ledine. I know it's "easy" for most but we go slowly up the difficulty and really enjoy it  .
Thanks for every suggestion/tip.
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| Macesna8. 09. 2016 13:28:47 |
Most secured paths are part of long, full-day tours, P. Storžič and Ledine are short tours. On long tours the secured part isn't necessarily the hardest, but it can be unsecured steep grass, slippery scree sections, long descent, you need to learn to stay focused for a long time ...
Not to ramble too much - interesting trip with some cables (system of natural windows) is Stegovnik. Apparently from the lake side it's not entirely easy to follow the path, so check comments on hribi.net.
Interesting trips are also Born's tunnels at Ljubelj. Not secured, but mountain environment and some views into precipices.
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| megalodon8. 09. 2016 15:16:36 |
Thanks for the first opinion. We're looking exactly for that, longer tours. Kids have no issues with moving in the mountains (our eight-year-old e.g. was at not quite four years on Debela peč). We've done quite a few longer tours already, as I wrote above, now we'd like to start with "cables". But the paths according to descriptions are very differently demanding. So something where there's no 200m drop below you  .
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| sirt18. 09. 2016 15:32:17 |
Since you're at Born's tunnels, from Preval extend over Roža to Roblek and over Zelenica back to Ljubelj.
Or- Draga - through Luknja to Preval- Roža- Roblek and over Poljska planina back to Draga. Both can be extended to Begunjščica.
On Jezersko there's also Umik Žrela- Czech hut and over Štularjeva planina back to parking.
Or over Taško to Grintovec.
Laško- Kališče- Storžič....
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| megalodon8. 09. 2016 16:02:39 |
Born's tunnels are our annual warm-up tour (been from both sides).
over Taško and Umik Žrela we put right on the calendar 
Keep boldly coming with ideas
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| Trobec8. 09. 2016 16:35:38 |
From Logarska to Kamniško sedlo. Then you can continue to Brana, that abyss to Okrešelj is not right under your feet. And the Italian one to Mangart. Otherwise short, but with cables and not too exposed. Over Komarča also some iron.
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| ŠpRo298. 09. 2016 17:27:28 |
The path to Inga and Martuljek Waterfalls is also fun for kids.
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| Macesna8. 09. 2016 17:31:10 |
Maybe try Storžič from the north side, over Škarjev rob. Some small drop, upper part crumbly and caution needed, especially on descent, overall nice varied tour that should please the little ones (at least I loved it at their age).
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| ŠpRo298. 09. 2016 17:33:07 |
Now in autumn there will also be a nice hike to Slemenova špica.
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| ŠpRo298. 09. 2016 17:35:51 |
And to some Ciprnik and a stop at the excellent Mojcin dom.
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| ŠpRo298. 09. 2016 17:41:02 |
If you went via the hunting path to Ledine, you can still extend to Ledinski vrh.
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| megalodon8. 09. 2016 18:30:46 |
Thanks for ideas. Been to Slemenova, been to Ledinski vrh, been at Martuljek waterfalls. Now seeking easier secured paths.
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| ŠpRo298. 09. 2016 18:59:26 |
Maybe also to Planjava past Kocbekov dom at Korošica.
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| dprapr8. 09. 2016 19:12:33 |
"So something like that where there's no 200m drop below you." 
The feeling of safety is really greater on such paths, but there's no difference between a 10m or 200m fall.
In any case, an eight-year-old on exposed terrain must be roped!
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| megalodon8. 09. 2016 21:53:35 |
OK, I knew some unnecessary reply would come  . I'm not the type to boast, so I didn't write all our ascents, which have piled up a lot given the kids' ages, even 2000ers, I just wanted well-meaning suggestions FROM FIRST HAND!
I know I can fall down stairs at home too, but I hope we agree that ascent via secured gully or chute is much less exposed, even feel-wise than walking on e.g. exposed ledges or verticals. And I hope we agree also that there's a difference between secured path on Storžič through gully or Kopiščarjeva on Prisank (at least per descriptions). So by no means BEGINNERS in hills, we'd like opinions on "easier" secured paths. That 200m was just metaphor  .
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| ločanka8. 09. 2016 22:03:50 |
Megalodon, it was interesting for me to take my son from the Seven Lakes over Štapce when he was about 8 years old, and to the basin Za Ak
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| valerija1128. 09. 2016 22:35:37 |
Raduha from Koča na Grohatu via climbing, Veliki Rogatec over Lepenatko, Vrh nad Škrbino, Peca (climbing), Robanov kot-chapel on Molička planina, over Komarčo to Triglav Lakes, from Uskovnica to Velo polje, with cable car to Velika planina and further over Konj, Gradiška tour (easier variant!). I wish you good luck and enjoy!
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| dprapr8. 09. 2016 23:38:12 |
If the reply was unnecessary, I apologize.
Once again I'll write what I already wrote on this forum. If we want to take our child to some secured path and we're in a dilemma if he can pass it safely, visit the path first ourselves and don't rely on advice from those who don't know our child.
You're already getting advice you wanted to exclude at the start. E.g. path to Veliki Rogatec very exposed and poorly secured, also secured on Raduha exposed in several places.
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| mukica9. 09. 2016 06:03:22 |
Maybe Ojstrica through Mala Ojstrica, some iron there, path not too long and on the way back at Kocbek delight on the meadow for kids
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| dprapr9. 09. 2016 07:55:22 |
And descent over Konj I overlooked..., very exposed for kids, and suggestion for downhill on that path.
Valerija112, criticism not aimed at you, speaking only of senselessness of such advice.
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| megalodon9. 09. 2016 10:09:32 |
@dprapr I didn't mean anything bad either, that 200m bit stung a little
Thanks also to you and all others for suggestions.
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