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Prevalski Stog, Adam and Eva

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spet_jaz28. 10. 2018 17:44:21
Last Saturday, a week ago, we also used it for a trip around these parts. I think we met @michael66 on Adam and then at the car
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michael6628. 10. 2018 19:05:38
Yes, that holds. When we got to Adam there was only Brina up there, who also photographed us, and you two were just returning from Prevalski Stog. Nice pictures and description, and congrats also for Jezerski Stog. Interestingly, at the cairn we also turned right onto the poorly visible path, but we turned back, as it disappeared after about 5 minutes of walking.nasmeh How long from Jezerca to Jezerski Stog and what's the path like?
Thanks for the picture, Brina...1
This is you on Adam... /from Eve/2
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Parkeljc23. 10. 2019 22:07:31
Yesterday, when we started from the Blato parking lot towards Krstenica still in the dark, there were only 3-4 cars parked besides ours. We went along the hunting path and had to stop several times to think where to go next. The path is torn up from timber extraction and occasionally very hard to follow, also because of the fallen leaves that further hinder traceability and orientation. It's easier to follow only after about half an hour of walking. We helped ourselves with the route description we had with us and also occasional cairns that came in very handy. At first, we were accompanied by the noise of forest workers' machinery engines, later just peace, and when we reach Krstenica, in one word, poetry. Individual golden-yellow larches glistened in the morning sun. On the pasture we stayed for a while and admired the peace and quiet of the morning that promised a beautiful day. Soon we head towards our goal. Behind the last huts on the pasture, from the left we catch a nicely visible wide path that first descends a bit into the valley, then rises not too strenuously under the wall of Jezerski Stog on the right and with a view of Ograde on the left. At the trough on the Na Jezerih pasture we initially miss it and start climbing the path towards Jezerski Stog, but we realize in time that we need to catch the small valley further left under the wall of Adam. There we continue for a while up and down, then arrive at the head of the valley, where the path turns right and is a bit harder to follow further, but doesn't pose a major problem. Here we meet hunters who somewhat surprise us, as we didn't expect to meet anyone. One advises us to take the poorly visible path under Prevalski Stog and conquer it from the right. When we mention Adam and Eva to him, he says they don't exist at all, as it should be some modern invention by know-it-alls. According to him, Adam and Eve are two rocks or boulders, about three meters big, one next to the other, somewhere on the path to Jezerski Stog.
We say goodbye and about five minutes below Prevalski Stog we really turn right, where in a rugged world we first conquer the modern precipitous Adam and then the shaggy Eva. From there we continue along the ridge and after a few minutes conquer Prevalski Stog too. Here we take more time for rest and ponder how to return. Since the hunter advised us earlier to continue after descending from Prevalski Stog along the marked path towards Lazovski Pass, that's what we do. The weather was nice, the temperature for this time almost unbelievably high, and after less than an hour of walking we arrive at Lazovski Pass. Followed by a somewhat annoying descent towards the V Lazu pasture. Here too we take a good half hour to admire the still all green, fairy-tale valley surrounded by golden larches. There's still plenty of water here. We refill the bottle with water and it was somehow hard for us to leave this idyllic place. We meet three people, but since they were repairing the roof on one hut, it suggested there were more nearby. We chose the direct path towards the starting point. Occasionally the path was hard to follow despite the marks. Foresters, road builders and others are making a "road" or something similar, I don't know exactly where. If I remember correctly, the forester said towards the pasture at the lake. Here it was pure agony, namely, marks were scarce and although I've walked here before, everything seemed different because many trees were removed, probably some marks too. Had to orient logically and finally find marks that told us we were on the right path. Breaking through was literally muddy, as we had to cross a clearing with so much mud that my boot sank almost completely. No need to describe how we arrived at the car. Anyway, from there to the car, last cca 20 minutes pure mud. When we arrive at the parking lot, it was already full to the last spot with cars. For the whole loop we used exactly eight hours. We'll definitely come back here and probably soon.
below the Krstenica pasture1
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Krstenica3
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Adam and Eve5
Jezerski Stog6
in the head of the valley, view from Debeleg vrh to Vrh Hribaric7
Škednjovec with surroundings8
Prevalski Stog from Adam9
Vernar and Tosc, below Velo polje10
View of Debeli vrh11
Škednjovec with surroundings12
Prevalski Stog with Adam and Eve13
on the pasture V Lazu14
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cofka23. 10. 2019 22:20:28
It's true, Adam and Eve are two rocks, nicely visible when the morning sun hits them from a certain angle or direction. Visible from Vodnikov Dom.
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slavkoa24. 10. 2019 09:39:29
Parkeljc, one of the parked cars was mine, as I arrived early in the morning and did a circular route with initial ascent to Ograde (right at dawn), then descent towards Lazovski Pass and ascent to Adam and Eve, from Eve descent on steep grass to the pass and ascent also to Jezerski Stog. From there I spotted you two on Adam. Followed visit to M.Stog, Krstenica pasture and back to starting point at Blato pasture. Beautiful day, I met the hunters too on Krstenica pasture.
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Parkeljc28. 10. 2019 10:20:18
Slavko, I think I "caught" you in the viewfinder on Jezerski Stog nasmeh
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dj1231. 10. 2019 19:32:15
Has anyone been to Blato pasture by car today? Is there maybe already snow on the road? What about pastures Krstenica, Laz, Dedno polje, are they maybe already snowy?
Thanks for any info.
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ljubitelj gora12. 01. 2020 21:36:06
On Adam, Eve and Prevalski Stog. Conditions are excellent, mostly walking along the top, road to Blato pasture drivable, no toll currently
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pikica113. 01. 2020 09:38:03
Nice nasmeh
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djimuzl13. 01. 2020 11:08:50
Toll payment applies all year round.
https://bohinj.si/mehka-mobilnost/parkirisca/
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ljubitelj gora13. 01. 2020 11:47:55
Inf. Bohinj says that right now no and also when I looked at a couple of other cars they didn't have tickets.
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djimuzl13. 01. 2020 12:32:45
Then they should fix it on the website.
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j.28. 01. 2020 18:03:21
Yesterday (Monday, January 27th). From Planina Blato up the Bušnica gully to Planina Krstenica, then onwards across Planina Jezerce to Mišeljski Preval and to Prevalski Stog. Then crossing under Škednjovec into Mišeljska Dolina, along it to the head and then up the left side between Vrh Hribarice and Mišeljski Konec to Prelaz Hribarice. From there through Dolina za Debelim Vrhom and under the southern slopes of Škednjovec back to Planina Jezerce and to Krstenica. Down the hunting path to Planina Blato.

The road to Planina Blato was dirt, only due to moisture it was icy in places on the way back (once it even slid a bit with the car). The ascent up Bušnica was interesting, I stuck to the gully (that's what Bojan Ambrožič advises; if you don't find anything smart on the web, it's worth checking his blog), initially mostly on the right side. The last 100 meters of elevation the gully was icy with about a centimeter of snow on top, so I put on crampons. After a few dozen meters I had enough of the rock-ice scratching (not yet recognized subtype of dry tooling, haha) and avoided the trouble through the steep forest on the left side of the gully. Already attached crampons were very useful on the frozen ground.

From Krstenica to Planina Jezerce there's a comfortable path, predecessor's footprints in the opposite direction helped me, as the wind-packed snow in the bottom of the valley sank to about shoe edge. From Mišeljski Preval to the top of Prevalski Stog it's about 15 minutes of nice steep ridge with gentle finish. Crampons gripped well with a few cm sink. I prefer such conditions over distinctly hard snow just for the front two points. At the top, wealth of views to the nicest parts of our Alps.

Continuing from Mišeljski Preval the snow was mostly hard, but pleasant for walking on terrain with less incline. At the bottom of Mišeljska Dolina conditions varied, from hard snow to wind-packed, here and there sinking to below knee. It sank even more in the steep slope towards Prelaz Hribarice, mostly wind-packed snow completely covered the summer passage between two rocks, so it wasn't even visible. On Hribarice and in Dolina za Debelim Vrhom conditions are different than a week ago. A few cm of wind-packed snow covered old tracks, only one fresh ski track and someone's crampon footprints were visible.

I headed left of Lazoviški Prelaz and found passage to Planina Jezerce (all the way left under Škednjovec is best). Return to Krstenica on own tracks was just formality, a bit harder in pitch dark to find the junction for the hunting path, which I took for the first time. Along the path many fallen trees from the bad storm three years ago. All sawn and removed from the path, so no issues. The logging road that the hunting path crosses in the lower part is huge. I'm used to logging roads in our mountains, but never seen such a big one. Who knows what beasts roll down it...

I put on crampons briefly in Bušnica and then below Mišeljski Preval, where I also took them off when I came around. I needed the ice axe for the Stog summit and then from the head of Mišeljska Dolina to Hribarice, there more out of caution.


Caution, work in the forest... or whatever it says means.1
Little house for a numerous family.2
Bušnica in the lower end.3
Bušnica a little higher up.4
Bušnica in the upper part: iced over and covered with snow.5
Planina Krstenica.6
Škednjovec, Adam and Eva.7
Above Planina Jezerce.8
View from Mišeljski preval.9
Vrh Hribaric and two beauties: Škednjovec and Mišeljski konec.10
Ogradi and Debeli vrh, below the Planina Jezerce hollow.11
For that steepness it has sunk just right.12
Beautifully shaped access ridge of Prevalski Stog.13
Vernar and Tosc, at the bottom of the picture Planina pod Mišelj vrhom.14
Walk under Škednjovec into Mišeljska dolina.15
Untouched Mišeljska dolina.16
From Mišeljski greben a lot of rocks have obviously flown some time ago.17
Hribarice adorned with fresh snow.18
Crystals.19
In the back Tosc, in front Prevalski Stog, Eva and Adam and Jezerski Stog.20
One of the numerous birches.21
Interesting tracks. As if the animals had too long nails :).22
He waited for me for a moment.23
Huge cart track.24
Track.25
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Bandzo28. 01. 2020 21:34:38
How I envy that nice tour!
Good luck and safe onwards!
LP, Ben
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ločanka29. 01. 2020 11:01:29
For me also an exceptional round. Dolina za Debelim Vrhom and Mišeljska Dolina have inspired me since forevernasmeh.
j., could you mark on pic.16 where in summer from the head of the valley the path goes up to Hribarice? (I know there's no official path there)
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j.30. 01. 2020 15:29:12
Ben, many thanks! You too, Ločanka! I'm a bit late with the reply, I was urgently absent yesterday nasmeh.

There's probably no path from the head of Mišeljska Dolina to Hribarice, I went up the left side in the last part of the valley (pic 1). Interesting that on www.pespoti.si there's a drawn track on the right side, right by Mišeljski Konec (probably possible to reach, from afar looks steeper - pic 2). I'm attaching my GPS track on modified OpenStreet map (pic 3) and pic of passage from above, posted by Velesa on hribi.net in 2012 (pic 4).

I also checked these two posts:
Velesa's post: click
Route description to Kanjavec via Mišelj Vrh: Click

Hope I helped a bit. Safe steps and luck to both!

Drawn path.1
Map www.pespoti.si with drawn path and my passage left of the path.2
GPS track on the modified map www.openstreetmap.org.3
From www.hribi.net: Veles's photo of the passage from 2012.4
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pikica118. 02. 2020 16:04:11
@LG and @j. have made me lust to go check how it is in these areas in winter too. If you're the type that likes solitude and snack from backpack, then don't wait. Your soul will be grateful nasmeh All day I don't meet anyone, chamois as many as you want.
Some icy patches up to LK below Krstenica1
At Krstenica, the spring grass is already turning green2
Trampled track from Krstenica to Planina Jezerce, behind Krsteniški Stog3
Crossing under Adam, firm in the morning, on return the snow already softening but not excessively post-holing.4
Mišeljski preval, here I turn right along the valley towards Adam and Eva5
Across snow-covered hummocks first to Prevalski Stog6
They were everywhere I looked7
On Prevalski Stog, centre Škednjovec right Mišeljski konec left Vrh Hribaric8
Really in paradise, Adam and Eva are here too, left Jezerski Stog9
Tosc, Bohinjska vratca, Vernar10
Right Vrh Hribaric and left Debeli vrh11
Lazovški preval behind Kreda and left Ogradi12
On the descent, everything sparkled in the sun. Pictures don't show this, it must be seen.13
Broken and twisted by snow and mountain wind, yet it keeps sprouting young branches and lives on.14
On Eva, view of Prevalski Stog15
Mišelj vrh, behind it Triglav peeks out16
Crunch, crunch, crunch on the sparkling snow towards Adam17
Jezerski Stog from Adam18
I stepped on all the snow-covered and windswept hummocks and enjoyed the views19
Škednjovec the most serious in these parts20
On Krstenica on the return21
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j.18. 02. 2020 18:14:39
Pikica, I'm not guilty, fault! nasmehnasmeh
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pikica119. 02. 2020 17:42:35
Of course you're guilty, for one real nice tour nasmeh But I envy you that you dare to go behind Debelim Vrhom. All those deep abysses down there eek whew. Only in summer and nice clear weather I venture down there, otherwise I don't dare mežikanje
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j.19. 02. 2020 20:21:50
Here, Pikica, in thanks for nice pics and as help and support for further nice tours: approximate locations (so far discovered or recorded) of pits around there.

From www.geopedia.si, choose Content/Useful info/Sign (+)/All categorized/ and then on page 5 or 6 "Cave systems" or type "Cave systems" in search

Approximate locations of recorded sinkholes around Debeleg vrh (source: geopedia.si).1
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