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| Keko29. 09. 2013 22:12:56 |
When I started hiking in the hills, I started with high boots. Some years ago I bought quality low shoes, which I first used for shorter and more climbing tours, while on long tours I still used high boots. Lately I've also started using low shoes on long tours, of course in summer months, and I feel super in them. Better maneuverability, they tire me less, less sore feet at the end of the tour. I well remember the statement of an alpinist and experienced hiker who two years ago on a very long and demanding tour said that if she puts on high hiking boots in dry and snowless conditions, she feels like she has unnecessary bricks on her feet. Then I accepted the statement with reservation, today I realize how right she was. For me, high boots only in winter conditions and in summer if crampons are needed. Everyone must find out for themselves what best suits them and in what footwear they feel best and especially safe.
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| lynx29. 09. 2013 23:38:50 |
Isn't it logical that low shoes suit people better? They can have only a quarter of the weight and the foot automatically breathes better in them. Permeability above the heel bothers only a few.
Safety is never free. In the hills you must sacrifice some weight, on the internet complicate with passwords, in everyday life even more so.
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| ljubitelj gora30. 09. 2013 09:09:14 |
Thanks for the opinions, I was obviously mistaken, the last hiking boots I bought, in the future I'll rather go with some good trail shoes  .
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| dprapr30. 09. 2013 10:15:35 |
In the beginning, before the "distant" years, many of us walked and climbed in sneakers (Adidas), because summer boots were too robust and heavy. And we often listened to well-meaning advice from "old cats" in heavy Alpina boots and red knee socks with pompoms.
Over time, footwear has also advanced here, if not through production then through import, and we have various shoes available for all seasons, different terrains, conditions, and activities. No need anymore to worry about what to wear. The market has a great selection, even cheaper ones that perform well.
But the eternal dilemma remains: high or low boots. If someone is in a dilemma about which to choose, in my opinion high boots are the right choice. If not, they'll wear the ones they feel best in (safety, long hikes, climbing,...).
Of course, the question remains open: what happens if we sprain an ankle in low boots and need help? Is rescue self-paid in that case or not?
If it's a mountaineer on a wall in climbing shoes, they probably won't ask what footwear he has for descent. What about a hiker?
Is this, like many other things, unresolved?
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| Keko30. 09. 2013 10:35:10 |
The problem is that there are many ankle sprains even in high boots, I've seen it twice already. Most high boots that hikers use for summer tours don't actually protect the ankle, contrary to the mistaken belief. For the ankle to be protected from sprain, the boot must be high enough to go a bit over the ankle and be rigid enough in the ankle area. Walking in such boots in summer is real torture, as they are more like armor than boots.
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| urbancek30. 09. 2013 10:45:52 |
Exactly, for example in Alpina Lhotse last year on Kališče I just stepped sideways on a root, and my ankle hurt... It completely depends on the boot model...
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| lynx30. 09. 2013 11:04:05 |
and lacing and probably more. My foot has buckled several times already, but the boot nicely stopped the movement. Maybe just enough so that the nerve impulses could travel through the body twice in time and then the muscles adjusted. 
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| JusAvgustin30. 09. 2013 11:14:24 |
Weight is very important for climbing, ridge traverses and pathless terrain. If I'm 100% sure there will be snow on the route, I take Scarpa Sportive Trango Guide GTX, otherwise Mammut Redburn. Ganda has already gone through what there is. Two pairs in one year... But true, I didn't have them for "walking" but also for climbing grade IV or more. Now in Mammuts I feel great. The rubber grips like Neostik too
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| lynx30. 09. 2013 11:49:20 |
Shall we start talking about alpine style hiking too, not just expeditioning? 
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| Katja661. 10. 2013 08:17:55 |
It also happened to me in high boots, that I twisted my leg between rocks. Not the ankle, but I overstretched the tendon on the top of the foot. It still hurts, even though a week has passed, so quite serious, at least for me who runs regularly.
I wonder if low boots aren't more agile in such cases, because it seems to me that with high boots I step more "stiffly".
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| strelec19541. 10. 2013 19:00:23 |
Definitely agility and easier walking in low boots until an ankle injury happens, here I don't mean sprain but for example foot slipping between two rocks or similar, then usually heavy injuries and quite painful abrasions occur.
Definitely first place is quality sole with good grip.
Otherwise a bit of joke "let the farrier judge the shoes":
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| viharnik1. 10. 2013 19:28:00 |
Katja 66, light mobilization with walking in low boots will help more for such leg injury, probably the instep part.For any muscle strains, tissues with pain, Tiger Balm from the east is the best. We apply it to the injured area, ointment of special traditional herbs that first strongly cools the skin, then warms the tissue. Even the worst pain disappears completely after five minutes. If the injury is stronger, apply the ointment several times and rub it well in. I used sandy red Tiger Balm. It really works exceptionally, recommend!
http://lifestyle.enaa.com/Zdravje/Medicina-in-zdravilstvo/Tigrova-mast-je-zdravilni-cudez-ki-olajsa-vrsto-bolezni.html
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| jesihar1. 10. 2013 21:39:25 |
klm: "It is wrong that hiking boots prevent sprains, they only protect against mechanical injuries, e.g."
What you say is pure nonsense. Let me illustrate with an extreme example: Try to twist your ankle in regular Adidas or in ski boots. Where do you think you'll succeed first?
A sturdy high hiking boot reduces ankle flexion and thus protects it somewhat from violent sprain.
Not to mention how desirable the support of such footwear is after a long walk, when the leg is already very tired, and when one steps wrong more easily.
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| smatjaz1. 10. 2013 21:40:39 |
Viharnik, on ZS please tell me where you get it so it won't be illegal EPP. I still remember it from the grandma era when they had it in a tiny round tin box and it stank like the devil, burned like hell and cured almost everything - from colds to inflammations, sciatica, sprains, headaches..... there are quite some fakes, so I'd like to come across the original or at least a close equivalent.
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| Loni2. 10. 2013 07:17:40 |
I buy it right there where the other rcnnies are.
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| Guest2. 10. 2013 16:03:46 |
I use spruce ointment for injuries and pains, which is made by Ivo Konc from Nakla. If that doesn't work, then I use (don't laugh) the ointment I got from the vet and it's used for treating horses. The same ointment my son-in-law also uses for soccer injuries. One ointment is green and smells like the old Chinese ointment that was available in the pharmacy, the other is stronger and is red.
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| miri2. 10. 2013 16:12:28 |
The ointment against mastitis is also not bad.
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| oldtimer 552. 10. 2013 17:00:31 |
On the advice of my physiotherapist and tested on an ankle sprain and knee ligament injury, the Pain Balm really helps effectively (http://www.gorenjske-lekarne.si/si/galenski-izdelki/izdelki-galenskega-laboratorija/izdelek/902/balzam-proti-bolecinam ).
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