Storžič vertical kilometer
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| Bojan_A6. 10. 2012 17:41:20 |
Vertical kilometer is the name for races where the course overcomes 1000 m of elevation gain. There hasn't been such a race in Slovenia yet.
Next Saturday, there will be the first such race in Slovenia. Namely on the route from Bašelj to Storžič.
Today I went on this route for the first time for training. GPS measured 2.1 km distance and 970 m ascent, which means the average slope is 47 %. I needed 44 min 45 s for the route.
RACE NOTICE: http://www.tekaskiforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=20748
See you next week at the race. 
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| tulipan7. 10. 2012 18:38:07 |
Take care not to get sick before the race.
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| vukovivek29. 09. 2013 10:14:55 |
hello Bojan A first congratulations for the feat on Storžič. How much time do you need to reach the summit :-)
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| ljubitelj gora29. 09. 2013 11:25:14 |
I have some questions about mountain running: I see that you all run in sports sneakers, which means an exposed ankle, you probably twist your ankle a few times in life, which means a few weeks without running. How about the knees and this strain on the organs, it is probably quite a shock for the body. When I look at pictures of you, fat and muscles "devour" you quite well, which is not unusual, since at a higher heart rate everything goes.
Is there any minimum requirement for how much elevation gain is the limit for fast walking/mountain running, because once you wrote that you don't run all the time but have a pace over 1000 elevation gain/hour.
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| klm29. 09. 2013 12:11:01 |
In athletes, ligaments are considerably stronger, so a possible ankle sprain is not exactly fatal. It is mistaken that hiking boots prevent sprains, but they just protect against mechanical injuries, e.g. hits on rocks etc., which can be quite painful in the end. The fact is that the probability of sprain is much lower if the person is well physically prepared... the same goes for knees. Anyway, during uphill running/walking knee ligaments are not loaded, but much more during downhill running: first due to extensor muscles like the quadriceps muscles, which absorb quite a lot of pressure; between 6 - 7 G (or that many times the runner's weight).
The same with organs - that's actually conditioning fitness - they are trained to a certain degree, so the heart rate is lower on average. But physics also plays a role here: the lighter the runner, the faster he will climb uphill. Therefore excessive muscle mass is completely unnecessary, especially fat, as it also hinders oxygen/blood absorption in muscles.
Of course lower heart rate is not key, but the difference between minimum and maximum heart rate. That's also one of the key factors that separate the best runners from the very good ones.
No limit is set on how much elevation gain needs to be overcome in a certain time.
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| polh29. 09. 2013 12:58:17 |
Regarding ankles. For me, the ankle twists more often and easier in high boots, while in low ones very rarely. That's due to the difference in sole, in low it is wide under the heel and pads, while in high boot the sole is narrow.
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| ljubitelj gora29. 09. 2013 13:06:46 |
I always think that hiking boots are the ones that protect the ankle from injury.
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| klm29. 09. 2013 14:42:34 |
Most sprains are in hiking boots. Their owners are in great majority overweight with their own kg. That's how it is.
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| ljubitelj gora29. 09. 2013 14:48:34 |
I twisted it just then when I wore low footwear, but fell badly a few times with hiking boots (ankle buckled), with low shoes I would have saved myself.
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| Bojan_A29. 09. 2013 17:02:26 |
I twisted my ankle both with hiking boots and in sports sneakers. Hiking boots in my experience don't help much with sprain. Maybe only winter ones, which are almost like armor.
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| viharnik29. 09. 2013 17:19:15 |
In quality hiking boots that hug the foot well, an ankle sprain is almost impossible, except if you fall down a wall while climbing. Someone more accustomed to low mountain approach shoes also gets good support from them in high mountain tours. Of course during running sprains happen more often.
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| ljubitelj gora29. 09. 2013 18:12:19 |
Good and bad hiking boots, here is the difference.
Alpina has only 3-4-5 models in its offer that are proven good hiking boots. There are also other cheaper hiking boots, which are not exactly good for ankle protection, as you mentioned injuries in hiking boots.
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| smatjaz29. 09. 2013 18:29:23 |
Yep, ljubitelj gora, that's it!!! Of course, so it doesn't look like EPP now, there are also hiking boots from other manufacturers, but this shows the shape and purpose of a mountaineering boot! If you skimp on food and drink (which I strongly doubt), don't skimp on the boot that first prevents the slip called (first time, last time, and never again). Safe step.
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| Bojan_A29. 09. 2013 18:45:19 |
I have mountaineering boots (La Sportiva Trango Trek), but my foot twists in them almost unhindered. And if not going to scree fields, I prefer trail running shoes in the hills too, mainly because they are almost three times lighter. The feeling of walking in trail shoes is also much better than in hiking boots. The grip of trail running shoes is incomparably better too. They are only not suitable for climbing because they are not stiff in front. I use these shoes also for hills where I am likely to hit snow patches, as automatic crampons surprisingly fit on them (though in principle they shouldn't). So I don't need to carry winter hiking boots for a few meters of snow patch, which are twice as heavy and much less comfortable. Trail shoes are also twice as cheap as hiking boots. If I hiked only with hiking boots, I would probably need to replace at least two pairs per year. This way, I replace three to four pairs of trail running shoes.
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| dprapr29. 09. 2013 19:02:18 |
"Skimping" isn't good only on the sole; everything else is theory that doesn't always hold up in practice.
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| urbancek29. 09. 2013 19:03:38 |
I have such experiences that with La Sportiva Trango S EVO hiking boots I have NEVER come close to any foot injury, and I don't hike little. I can simply trust them, they hold incredibly, the ankle was never threatened even if I stepped a bit awkwardly. They also have some minor flaws, but regarding the feeling of a safe step, I haven't worn better hiking boots .
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| Daaam29. 09. 2013 19:33:23 |
This is again a debate where it's impossible to draw a line between what is right and what not. Every experienced person knows what footwear they need and what suits them, those who are just getting to know the mountains should start as we were all taught (hiking boots) and that's it... everything further depends on each individual.
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