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Two-day tour in the Kamniks

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kr neki24. 07. 2010 09:32:45
Can someone suggest a two-day tour in the Kamniks?
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NEIC00824. 07. 2010 09:41:57
One of countless options:
Logarska dolina - hut at Okrešelj - Kamniško sedlo - Brana and/or Turska gora and/or Rinke - Cojzova hut at Kokrsko sedlo... Overnight, next day:
Grintavec - J. Kočna - Češka koča - hut at Ledine - Savinjsko sedlo - hut at Okrešelj - start..
The path can also be started from the other direction (Češka koča)..
zadrega
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rerze1124. 07. 2010 11:57:44
Or this one: Suhadolnik and over Taško to Kokrsko sedlo. From here continue towards Mlinarsko sedlo and over Dolgi Hrbet to Skuta. Then towards Rinka and to Ledine and sleep there.
Next day: from Ledine to Češka koča, to Grintovec, from there to both Kočne and back to start via Dolce. zavijanje z očmi
Skuta 2532m1
Long ridge2
Rinke3
Grintovec 2558m4
Kočna 2540m5
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smidov david24. 07. 2010 21:27:54
One nice variant:
Day 1: Dom v Kamniški Bistrici - Bela - Presedlaj - Korošica - Ojstrica - Planjava - Kamniško sedlo (overnight)
Day 2: Kamniško sedlo - Turska gora - Skuta - Dolgi hrbet - Grintovec - Kokrško sedlo - Dom v Kamniški Bistrici.
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Enka9. 07. 2015 00:41:57
With a friend we're planning a two-day trip in KSA. We'd start from Logarska, the tour should obligatorily include the path Kamniško sedlo - Logarska dolina. Of course, we don't want to hike the same paths both waysnasmeh. We're toying with this variant:

1. day: Logarska dolina - Klemenča jama - Ojstrica - Korošica (sleep)
2. day: Korošica - Planjava - Kamniško sedlo - Logarska dolina

Fitness-wise, this isn't a big deal and shouldn't be a problem for us. But I'm worried about the difficulty of the path. We're not exactly beginners, but we don't have much experience with difficult and very difficult paths either. As far as we've seen, the tour can be done only on difficult paths and avoid very difficult ones. I have some issues with exposed sections, if the path is narrow and without protection. I'd prefer no such sections on the path. We don't know the paths, as from these areas we've only been to Okrešelj, I thinkzadrega.

Would anyone bother to write a few sentences about what we can expect? Since there are several variants on this path, I'm interested in your opinion, which of the possible variants would be the least demanding? Van Sims wrote somewhere that the descent from Kamniško sedlo to Logarska is tricky and not well protected (that worries me quite a bit) - what's your opinion? Have we set the basic order well, or would it be better (easier) to switch days and descend to Logarska from Ojstrica?

I'll be extremely grateful for any info and opinion!
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geppo9. 07. 2015 05:40:14
Maybe it would be better to do the path in the opposite direction.
Easier for you the ascent from Okrešelj to Kamniško sedlo. And you'll test yourselves. If you make it to Kamniško, the rest shouldn't pose any special problems..
Overnight at Korošica and in the morning to Ojstrica. Descend from Ojstrica to Klemenča over Škarje. This way you avoid Kopinškova and consequently the nasty ascent. To Škarje, the ascent over scree is quite nasty, especially if it's hot.
I hope I helped.
lp
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zico109. 07. 2015 09:45:13
I also think it would be much more pleasant to do the tour the other way. Over Škarje to Ojstrica is a very looong ascent, and with the temperatures these days also very strenuous if you don't start the tour very early.
The path to Kamniško sedlo up or down is nothing special, so no need to fear. There's enough protection, especially where there's exposed part.
If you have issues with exposure maybe the shortcut connecting Kamniško sedlo with the start of ascent to Planjava is a bit more demanding. But I believe you'll manage ;-)
You've planned a nice and interesting tour, just make sure to do it early enough, as it can be very hot during the day.
Safe steps, and after we're waiting for report with pictures ;-)

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Enka9. 07. 2015 23:51:15
Thanks for the kind help, geppo and zico10! We've listened to the suggestion to go the opposite way and we'll seriously consider it.

Can I ask also if the path from Okrešlj to Kamniško sedlo is harder than say Slovenska to Ledine? And what's the descent from Ojstrica to Škarje?

Zico10, that shortcut you mention on the way to Planjava - isn't secured? How long is it?

We're going only next weekend, hopefully temperatures will cool a bit by then, of course in summer you need to start early for several reasons and we'll take that into accountnasmeh. Description of experience with pictures will definitely follow!
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jax10. 07. 2015 01:28:58
No, Okrešlj-Kamniško path is easier. There's no real climbing anywhere on it, although occasionally a bit exposed. But watch out for looots of scree.
The Kamniško-Planjava shortcut of course not constantly secured, but where needed, it is. No need to be afraid.
Ojstrica-Škarje - hard to say here, because it's been a long time since I was there. As far as I remember, except scree no problems. But really, don't take my word for it.
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geppo10. 07. 2015 04:20:59
Descent from Ojstrica is gravelly and then some pegs and cables before Škarje.
Like everywhere in mountains: slowly, carefully, without rushing and you can manage everywhere.
good luck to you both, without fear and it'll be fine...nasmeh
This is how part of the descent from Ojstrica looks1
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Enka11. 07. 2015 00:49:11
Thanks to both for the kind replies!
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Enka23. 07. 2015 00:54:45
Wandering in KSA succeeded, although not everything went according to plan. It started well, the path from Okrešlj to Kamniško sedlo seemed easy to me and I liked it. Traffic like on highway! On the shortcut Kamniško sedlo - start of ascent to Planjava my knees shook twice properly on unsecured parts, which means I'm just not made for such pathszadrega. The path over Srebrno sedlo to Korošica is beautiful, full of nice views and just right varied so not boring. Kocbekov dom at Korošica is a pleasant stop, we slept like the deadnasmeh. Not too early in the morning we headed on direct path to Ojstrica, but I decided myself it's better to turn back a bit below the summit. I wasn't the only one that dayjezik. Descent and ascent to Škarje on the easiest path was pleasant, on descending from Škarje knees again wouldn't stay calmzadrega. After this relatively short descent follow endless scree fields and gravelly winding paths. You can slip practically at every step, but luckily only - on your buttvelik nasmeh. At Klemenča jama it was already properly hot, not to mention the good two kilometers from Dom planincev to the car at Rinka waterfall! Well-deserved iced coffee at Penzion Na razpotju and meeting old friend Benča just topped off the beautifully spent weekendnasmeh.

P.S.
How the hell do I rotate these pics that won't stand upright?
View between Okrešelj and the entrance to the wall1
Climbing towards Kamniško sedlo is great, aids bp2
Kamniško sedlo is one big meadow3
The most beautiful view on the trail4
Deep views5
Planjava from Srebrno sedlo6
The path from Srebrno sedlo towards Korošica is pleasantly varied7
Gorgeous view8
Lučki dedec9
The path towards Ojstrica was mostly pleasantly shady10
And unpleasantly scree-covered11
Not all of us reached the summit :-)12
The endless sandy paths to Logarska Valley are diversified by the view of Krofička13
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pantani123. 07. 2015 07:31:45
Bravo nasmeh
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trma55523. 07. 2015 08:33:17
Bravo Enka, the more you hike such paths, the sooner you'll get used and soon won't turn back anywhere. Čop said the eye must get used to the depth too, then it goes. Good luck and careful especially on scree fields!
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panda23. 07. 2015 08:34:46
Praiseworthy and sufficiently self-critical. nasmeh Best to rotate pics already in the file you'll select from.mežikanje
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Enka23. 07. 2015 22:31:10
Here, pantani1, we caught you on a pic under Ojstricanasmeh!
Towards Ojstrica1
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alpin24. 07. 2015 07:33:59
Yesterday morning it was really nice in these parts.!nasmeh
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARhpeA8kooE
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garmont24. 07. 2015 08:15:24
Congrats @Enka for the tour. Shame you turned back below Ojstrica summit, since you did a much tougher part the day before (my opinion).
Regards
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Enka24. 07. 2015 19:03:44
Thanks for congrats, @garmont. Sure, regret and emptiness lingers if you don't summit, but...listen to yourself too. Saturday eve I thought no morning hike except Planina Podvežak (though car in Logarskamežikanje). Never higher than Šmarna Goravelik nasmeh. So...Ojstrica waits if meant. Under Planjava doubt I'll go againnasmeh
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jax24. 07. 2015 21:12:48
But under Planjava I don't think I'll wander again

Ugh, such statements about mountains (and other stuff) better avoid ... velik nasmeh
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Enka24. 07. 2015 21:40:41
Hahahaha, I know I know, fear memories fading, but still...with so many other paths I haven't done...
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