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Velika Planina - across Kuklarji

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Dr_Ursic12. 09. 2021 17:21:48
The hunting trail to Velika Planina "across Kuklarje" starts below at the parking lot under Kraljev hrib (cable car to VP).
We go along the marked path leading to planina Dol. After a good half hour of walking we reach high walls along the path. From there another 10 min walk to the boulder on the right side, where the terrain flattens a bit (cca 1050m). We leave the marked path at this boulder and slightly left above it we spot a less visible trail, which we follow. The path itself is exposed in some places (old steel cables there) and harder to follow in places.
We exit at Kobilni dolina 1479m - north of Šimnovec.
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji After about half an hour of walking on the marked path we reach the wall by the path.1
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji From the wall it's another 10 min to the boulder...2
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji Where we turn right.3
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji On the back side of the boulder there is a blue circle.4
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji Along the less visible path ahead.5
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji First across the scree to the left-6
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji View back.7
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji Then up the gully and then right across the scree.8
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji View back.9
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji We continue along a less visible path.10
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji Up the gullies on the steep grassy slope.11
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji View back.12
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji Onwards along the path.13
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji Under the cliff.14
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji ...15
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji Old steel cables.16
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji View back.17
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji Left upward through scree.18
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji To the wall.19
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji We descend a little.20
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji And again up along the wall.21
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji View back,22
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji Further along the small path.23
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji View back.24
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji First cairn spotted on this path. Before exiting the forest.25
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji View towards the exit.26
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji View back.27
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji Ahead..28
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji Kobilna valley.29
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji Purman.30
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji Along the road further. 31
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji To Gradišče - the summit of VP.32
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji View towards VP.33
Velika Planina - across Kuklarji Towards Zeleni rob.34
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iUnknown13. 09. 2021 08:11:35
Super. Searched for this trail several times but didn't find it.
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zokipoki13. 09. 2021 10:30:18
Very nice! Well documented! Regards
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palček plezalček1. 02. 2022 22:32:11
So as not to stuff Kuklarje under the Rigelj topic again, let the ascent over them and the crossing of the west slope of Velika Planina find its place in the recently opened topic.

Kuklarji, Rigelj, Škorenca, Vrtalše, Lopata, Gamsove streže, Pasje pečine - names probably unknown to most. To me before Sunday just some notes on the map, which revealed themselves as spots full of beauty, but also traps.

The path through Dolski Graben is as always long and winding. At the big boulder with the blue paw on the back side I turn and climb amid chamois young to Kobilna Valley over Kuklarje (snow patches here and there). At Planina I slip past some huts and already descend the path over Rigelj, but immediately below it, that is, at the bend where the path continues to the right, with a larger mark on the wall, I leave it and head straight ahead. According to the interrupted dashed line on one of the maps, I should follow the remnants of the trail. Actually, the pathlet is visible for a short time, then I spot it a little below me, after a while I find myself under it - in short, the further you go, the more invisible it is. The best is to strain the eyes, follow the feeling and carefully continue in the steep world of grass and numerous ravines that are currently full of compacted avalanche debris. Somewhere in the middle of the crossing it seemed to me that only a thought of the trail remained and every little path seemed good enough that I didn't decide to turn back. When somewhere in the Lopata area I really didn't know where it would be best, and I became skeptical if the thinly leaf- or grass-covered avalanche paths, in which the concrete-hard snow and ice firmly persist, will ever end, I find the first and only nice little ravine. I descend, head through the next one to the forest and slightly upward until I spot the trail (probably goes toward Konjska dolina or the former hunting hut Sivnik). On it in a few minutes I reach the marked path and descend over Pasje pečine.
Soon after the junction for čez Kuklarje1
Uphill to the remains of the hunting cableway2
Beautiful wild world3
After the bend a gentler forest begins and arrival in Kobilno valley4
Peek towards Planjava5
untouched whiteness6
In civilization, but only for a short time7
Back in pathless terrain - crossing Z slope of Velika Planina8
View back9
Steep10
Heading somewhere there11
Across countless gullies - under leaves and grasses icy avalanche deposits are hidden12
View to the other side across the Kamniška Bistrica valley13
Crossings14
Little path where it can still be seen15
Little pier16
Earth gully - like on the former path connecting Klemenča cave with Logar Valley17
Even if there is no snow in the gully, it is steep and slippery due to leaves18
Can you see the little path?19
In places it is better seen when you turn back20
Sculptures21
Nice little gully22
Soon I will be at the trail junction for Velika Planina, Kisovec, via Pasje pečine.23
Western side of V. planina.24
Afternoon, but it is still hard.25
Last turns on the snow.26
Leaning like the tower in Pisa.27
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andi22. 02. 2022 06:45:05
Congrats on the trip and persistence! Once wondered where that straight track under Rigelj goes. This crossing variant is obviously even nicer than the now quite trodden path past the collapsed hunting hut (Sivnik - Škorenca - streža). Exactly that path you reached at the end. To Konjska Dolina a path branches straight down somewhere mid-slopes, to Curlo a bit later upward. Traversed slope with something that someone joked you feel it, sometimes see back, never forward though. And demanding, as you write - a slip doesn't end well. Once I already sat in the steepness years ago and looked what nownasmeh well, good end, beautiful memoriesnasmeh lp
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iUnknown2. 02. 2022 07:26:19
Did you have a paper map? Those are really the "best" for navigation in such terrain nasmeh
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garmont2. 02. 2022 08:43:13
Nice little one.smile
Another tour that confirms the saying that the goal is…the path.wink
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zokipoki2. 02. 2022 11:41:17
Very nice!
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palček plezalček3. 02. 2022 10:05:14
Andi2, thanks for the comment. You revealed quite a few interesting tidbits in it. Will have to 'poke nose' into Konjska dolina too, to one of the highest springs and turn to the former hunting hut. smile Have you ever gone over Ravni hrib and descended along the ridge to the confluence of Konjski stream and Kamniška Bistrica?

Garmont and Zokipoki - I think you would like this or similar exploring. I would suggest spring time, when grasses green up but are not high yet (less slippery) and no more snow in the gullies.

iUnknown - I must cover myself in ashes. I always have a paper map, this time I went without. For some time I've been using maPZS on computer, now I loaded the map on phone for the first time. When I needed it, it was empty or without drawn paths, even without marked ones. Good thing I approximately knew at what height (from-to) I should cross. It didn't work for me, maybe it works on Android.
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andi23. 02. 2022 12:02:29
No, but interesting idea. Probably would descend straight to the shooting range, which is at its beginning. I was in the valley twice, both times by the standard route described by the visitor on hribi.net. https://www.hribi.net/izlet/predkonjska_dom_na_kisovcu_skozi_konjsko_dolino/3/189/4728 The gorge is nice, very solitary. But exit options are quite limited, because walls with grass drop very steeply into it. Don't go into it in thunderstorm and high water level. As said from your side - these sides of Planina and its paths (Martinj, Kuklarji, Sivnik, Streže, Curla, Krvava peč, Rigelj,...) like a bit drier walking. But those characteristic grasses slip even in high summer, that's how they aresmile
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iUnknown3. 02. 2022 12:48:59
@palček plezalček: I was just kidding a bit. No hard feelings.

But I've already walked some on the path from Kisovec towards the hunting hut and then further towards the Rigelj path. But I had GPX from someone else on my phone, so I followed more. Although at one spot under some cliff it was so overgrown that I had to think hard where to go.

If you happen to organize some exploring of that terrain, I'd be interested, because alone I wouldn't go there.

I also had ideas to go from Ravni hrib towards Zgornje Praprotno and I have the route drawn where to go.

Another idea was to go from the gate in the fence near Kofce cave, downhill towards the hunting hut. There's also a path there.
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lijaneja3. 02. 2022 14:57:20
Bojč is a great expert of 'Velka'.
Here I dug up something.
https://www.krtina.com/blog/post/2015/08/12/Kuklarji.aspx
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palček plezalček3. 02. 2022 17:47:58
Lijaneja, long ago I already found this piece, but read it again - nicely described, because the author can poke fun at himself. smile

iUnknown, above are notes from gentlemen with whom I was supposed to go to 'Zaspančka' above Logarska some time ago, but you know how it is... usually it takes time for some joint exploration to happen. embarrassed
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zokipoki3. 02. 2022 19:56:08
Palček, if there's just a chance, this year I'll run so much that it will succeed, and you'll be our leader! smile Best to start planning already! big
But it's really hard to coordinate roll even in two, in three or more it's a real project! big
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turbo3. 02. 2022 20:01:29
When you coordinate, don't forget the PCT condition confused Pleasant All-Day Tour big
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zokipoki3. 02. 2022 20:03:00
Excellent interpretation of PCT turbo!big
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garmont4. 02. 2022 09:33:17
"Gospodov"...little finger. jezikvelik nasmeh
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grega_z_brega8. 02. 2022 23:36:28
Today I parked at Dedkov pruh. Beyond the bend on the cart track that goes steeply uphill. Well, it turns out the whole path goes straight up. I catch the path from Kraljev hrib to Sivnik, but lose it due to fallen spruces and continue by feel logically, reach the ridge above Sivnik and spot the path again with some cairns. It leads me through steep grass, winds through nasty terrain, at one part almost impassable cluttered, but just a few dozen meters higher it meets the path described by Palček_plezalček.nasmeh
There I turn left - direction Rigelj and soon run into an iced remnant of scree. Since it was a bit unappetizing, time late, I turned around and went back the way I ascended.
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Path from Kraljev hrib to Sivnik7
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palček plezalček9. 02. 2022 15:33:10
Even more new options for exploration. nasmeh
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grega_z_brega9. 02. 2022 15:43:43
Countless...
Otherwise, various paths are drawn on different maps, of which not even a trace can be found in naturezavijanje z očmi
And terms like e.g. Škorenjca appear in different places on different maps...
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zokipoki9. 02. 2022 15:47:59
Really great! Gotta peek into and over Kuklarje sometime...mežikanje
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