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Mountain ranges / Kamnik Savinja Alps / Grintovec / V Koncu - Grintovec (via Kokrsko and Mlinarsko sedlo)

V Koncu - Grintovec (via Kokrsko and Mlinarsko sedlo)

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Starting point: V Koncu (875 m)
Latitude/Longitude: 46,34200°N 14,56820°E
Destination: Grintovec (2558 m)
Route name: via Kokrsko and Mlinarsko sedlo
Walking time: 5 h 45 min
Difficulty: very difficult marked way
Elevation gain: 1683 m
Elevation difference along the route: 1750 m
Map: Kamniške in Savinjske Alpe 1:50.000
Recommended equipment (summer): helmet
Recommended equipment (winter): helmet, ice axe, crampons
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Number of photos: 72
Number of comments: 60
Access to starting point:
a) We drive to Kamnik, then follow the signs for Kamniška Bistrica and Črnivec pass. In Stahovica at the traffic light intersection we turn left towards Kamniška Bistrica (straight Črnivec pass) and drive to Dom v Kamniški Bistrici. We bypass the mountain hut on the right side. The asphalt ends a little higher, from there we continue on a gravel road that quickly forks. We keep to the lower left road (right leads to a footpath towards Kokrsko sedlo), and at intersections we follow the signs for Grintovec. We park at the parking lot at the lower station of the freight cable car to Kokrsko sedlo. Driving and parking beyond the freight cable car is prohibited (there is no prohibition sign, but fines of €1,000 are regularly issued). In winter, driving from Koča v Kamniški Bistrici to the parking lot V Koncu is prohibited by a traffic sign, which extends the route by almost an hour.
b) From the direction of Gornji Grad we drive to Črnivec pass, then start descending towards Kamnik. When we reach Stahovica, at the traffic light intersection we turn right towards Kamniška Bistrica (straight Kamnik) and drive to Dom v Kamniški Bistrici. We bypass the mountain hut on the right side. The asphalt ends a little higher, from there we continue on a gravel road that quickly forks. We keep to the lower left road (right leads to a footpath towards Kokrsko sedlo), and at intersections we follow the signs for Grintovec. We park at the parking lot at the lower station of the freight cable car to Kokrsko sedlo. Driving and parking beyond the freight cable car is prohibited (there is no prohibition sign, but fines of €1,000 are regularly issued). In winter, driving from Koča v Kamniški Bistrici to the parking lot V Koncu is prohibited by a traffic sign, which extends the route by almost an hour.
c) From Luče we drive to Podvolovljek, then on a steep road we ascend to Volovljek pass (the pass is also known as Kranjski Rak after the inn there). From there we start descending towards Kamnik. Lower we join the road from Črnivec pass, where we turn right downhill. When we reach Stahovica, at the traffic light intersection we turn right towards Kamniška Bistrica (straight Kamnik) and drive to Dom v Kamniški Bistrici. We bypass the mountain hut on the right side. The asphalt ends a little higher, from there we continue on a gravel road that quickly forks. We keep to the lower left road (right leads to a footpath towards Kokrsko sedlo), and at intersections we follow the signs for Grintovec. We park at the parking lot at the lower station of the freight cable car to Kokrsko sedlo. Driving and parking beyond the freight cable car is prohibited (there is no prohibition sign, but fines of €1,000 are regularly issued). In winter, driving from Koča v Kamniški Bistrici to the parking lot V Koncu is prohibited by a traffic sign, which extends the route by almost an hour.
Route description:
From the parking lot we turn left onto the marked footpath towards Cojzova koča on Kokrsko sedlo, Grintovec and Skuta (straight unmarked paths across Gamsov skret and Žmavčarje). The path initially leads along the right side of the freight cableway but soon enters the forest, through which it begins to ascend first moderately, then quite steeply. The well-maintained path higher up leads us to a short, steeper step. Two short cables used to be installed here but have been removed. In dry conditions the passage is not demanding, though more caution is needed especially on descent and when wet.
Above the steep section we reach a bench where we can take a short rest. The path then continues through the forest for some time. After crossing a torrent we first enter a belt of low trees, then pass under the cliffs of Mali vrh (1915 m), where there is increased risk of falling rocks especially in spring and after rain.
Further on the path becomes more gravelly and steep, which may require some extra energy. In return we are rewarded with wonderful views of the mountains above the Kamniška Bistrica valley, with the imposing walls of nearby Kalška gora standing out. This is followed by some traversing ascent across scree, after which the rocky path transitions to scenic grassy slopes. Along these we ascend to Kokrsko sedlo, where we see the mountain hut on the left and, straight ahead, a fine view towards the Kokra valley.
From Kokrsko sedlo we continue right towards Grintovec, Skuta and Kamniško sedlo via Sleme (left Kalška gora, Kalški greben and Krvavec, straight down Kokra and Suhadolnik). We first ascend quite steeply on slopes rising north of the saddle. After ten minutes the gradient eases and we reach a marked junction, where we turn right towards Skuta (slightly left Kočna and Grintovec).
The path ahead is initially a little harder to follow as it crosses a grassy section, but higher up it becomes clearer and in moderate ascent leads us to the picturesque passage across Mala Vratca.
Here or slightly earlier an formerly marked path to Grintovec via Dolge stene branches left, which today is considered more of an unmarked approach to Grintovec, while we continue straight on the marked path towards Skuta. After the narrow passage of Mali Vratca the path begins to descend a steep and occasionally exposed slope. At the end of the descent, where we lose a little more than 50 metres of elevation, some protection aids us, followed by crossing a gully. After that we reach the world of high plateaus, across which we begin to ascend towards Bivak pod Grintovcem or Bivak Pavla Kemperla, which we reach after about half an hour of ascent.
From the bivouac we continue on the marked path, which quickly brings us to a junction where the path splits.
We continue straight towards Grintovec and Skuta (right Kamniško sedlo) on a relatively gentle path that leads us across the karst terrain of Veliki podi to the next junction.
Again we choose the left path (right Skuta), which continues across a fissured world full of cracks and abysses. On this section we carefully follow the markings and ascend to Mlinarsko sedlo, where Frischaufova pot from Jezersko or Češka koča on Spodnje Ravne joins.
We turn left towards Grintovec (right Dolgi hrbet and Skuta via Dolgi hrbet, sharply right Skuta below Dolgi hrbet) and continue on technically more demanding terrain. The path leads along an occasionally exposed ridge and beside it, ascending mainly southwest, then moves to the shady side of the ridge where it temporarily becomes somewhat easier.
Here the path from Dolška škrbina joins from the right; we keep slightly left towards the summit of Grintovec.
The path ahead becomes somewhat harder, but numerous protections help so that ascent on occasionally sheer sections is fairly safe. In the final part the path is also quite exposed to falling rocks; we follow the steep path all the way to the summit of Grintovec, from which a magnificent view opens.
Descent is possible by the easier path via Streha.

Starting point - Kokrsko sedlo 2:30, Kokrsko sedlo - junction above the saddle 0:10, junction above the saddle - Mala Vratca 0:15, Mala Vratca - Bivak pod Grintovcem 0:50, Bivak pod Grintovcem - Veliki podi 0:25, Veliki podi - Mlinarsko sedlo 0:35, Mlinarsko sedlo - junction below Grintovec 0:40, junction below Grintovec - Grintovec 0:20.
route map - Grintovec
Along the route: Cojzova koča na Kokrskem sedlu mountain hut (1174m), Cojzova koča na Kokrskem sedlu (1793m), Bivak pod Grintovcem (1859m), Mala Vratca (1952m), Pod Dolgimi stenami (1916m), Bivak pod Grintovcem (2100m), Veliki podi (2211m), Mlinarsko sedlo (2334m), Razpotje pod vrhom Grintovca (2453m)
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Discussion about the trip V Koncu - Grintovec (via Kokrsko and Mlinarsko sedlo)
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steleu30. 06. 2011
I don't know where you got the name Grintavec from... The correct name is of course Grintovec...

lpu
free30. 06. 2011
Dry throughout. The biggest problems are swarms of wasp-disguised flies (or whatever those bugs are) at Mlinarsko sedlo. Securing gear is fine, no dangerous sections (?), but on such a path you have to avoid risky behavior, right? With careful observation you can also encounter chamois, Chamoisvelik nasmeh and marmots on the way.
jax28. 09. 2011
Up today, I think alone. I have to say the path is actually a bit harder than I expected, but very beautiful. After the suffering to Kokrsko sedlo it quickly becomes more pleasant and already on the scree below Mlinarsko sedlo I quickly forgot about that steep slope under the cable car mežikanje
Otherwise, the path seemed very well maintained and secured to me. Actually, a good part of the path is unprotected, but there I didn't miss the aids, and where they are needed, they are reliable. Perhaps the fact that it seemed a bit harder than expected is also related to having to climb down most of the difficult spots. That's of course much harder, although the spots themselves weren't problematic.
Well, let me also mention the (at least for me) most beautiful passage: it's also in the last picture in row 9. Cliff on the right, on the left a nasty red chimney opens in the rock - I'm not going there - in between just one rock with a mark. Where now? Actually, here you have to do a sort of "step of faith": simply trust the marking and climb onto that rock (on the ridge edge itself), without seeing what's behind it. Well, once you're up, a completely easy passage down opens up suddenly velik nasmeh
Anyway, the path seemed quite demanding to me, but I definitely recommend it. By the way: scree is of course present on it, as everywhere in our high mountains (and actually the most tricky spots for me were precisely those in the red and crumbly rock), but positively, besides that, there are quite a few spots with nice solid rock on this path. One more good side.
pohodnik3810. 07. 2012
The predecessor already wrote something about the path, which I did on Sunday 8.7. I imagined it harder but personally it didn't seem so demanding to me though it's long. Well protected on key sections. Some snapshots below.

VIDEO

Regards!Tone
mala paklenica12. 07. 2012
Been there, seen it, enjoyed it.
F O T O
pohodnik3816. 07. 2012
And some photos and impressions if anyone wants to seenasmeh

PICTURES
Domch19. 07. 2012
Beautiful tour and good for maintaining fitness. The path is interesting especially from Kokrsko sedlo onwards towards the new bivouac below Grintovec. There are still some snow patches in the hollows. From Mlinarsko sedlo onwards follows a well-protected ridge that is no longer very exposed, but a little care is needed especially in following the markers, which go all the time left and right along the ridge. Then a short ascent to the summit. At the top, fog greeted us today at least after 11 o'clock.
lakkon24. 07. 2012
I plan to go to Skuta:
http://www.hribi.net/izlet/suhadolnik_skuta_cez_kokrsko_sedlo/3/28/648

Depending on mood and weather, on the way back I could also go to Grintovec, which I haven't summited yet. It's too close, at least on the map practically on the way back, to skip it in that situation. From Skuta I would go to Mlinarsko sedlo and then on this trail:
http://www.hribi.net/izlet/_v_koncu_grintovec_cez_kokrsko_in_mlinarsko_sedlo/3/16/538

here it says: ...from Mlinarsko sedlo continue towards Grintovec on a path that becomes technically demanding. The path further leads along and beside locally exposed ridge, then passes to the shady side of the ridge, where it becomes somewhat more difficult, but numerous belays help us. The path, exposed to falling rocks in the upper part, brings us to the summit after about 1 hour from Mlinarsko sedlo. Recommend descent via Streha Grintovca…

But is it only because of that stated for this trail: very demanding marked path? On the map Grintovci 1:25 000 this entire section is marked with dots. It doesn't say that a via ferrata set is needed, which is usually where paths are more difficult.

I have never gone on a path stated as very demanding marked path. Usually because a via ferrata set is required. I'm not afraid of heights. I don't overestimate my abilities. I've already hiked where it wouldn't go without pegs and cables. I also have experience with crossing some ridges up and down and slips and know to be careful. I am aware of how much food, drink, clothing and equipment I would need.

Should I try given that I'll already do that path to Skuta before?

Thanks for help.
jprim24. 07. 2012
If I understand you correctly, you would first go to Skuta, then descend back to Mlinarsko sedlo and to Grintavec.zavijanje z očmi
Usually if going first to Skuta and still planning Grintovec, one crosses Dolgi hrbet.
LP!
pohodnik3824. 07. 2012
Through Mlinarsko sedlo there are belays, on one part the path is very open because you walk on the ridge which is less than 1 meter wide, but the cable for grip is routed lower near the ground not high like on the ridge e.g. on Triglav, if you're used to heights and drops it won't be a problem.
danicak25. 07. 2012
On Sunday I plan to go to Kokrsko sedlo. Just a question-regarding difficulty, what is the difference between the path to Kamniško sedlo (which I have walked) and to Kokrsko sedlo? I know it is steep, that won't be an extra obstacle, I have more concerns about possible exposed sections.
thanks
LidijaJesih25. 07. 2012
There is not much difference. On this link there is a video about the run to Grintovec, where you can also see the path to Kokrsko sedlo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIODVsp6bgo&feature=player_embedded#!
danicak25. 07. 2012
yes, I watched all available films from previous years about this run beforehand, nice thanks for the suggestion-nasmeh
the seventh and eighth pictures in the gallery above scare me a bit.....
LidijaJesih26. 07. 2012
No fear. Wide enough. This year, if I remember correctly, there's no steel cable anymore.nasmeh
danicak26. 07. 2012
ga. Lidija thanks for the info,
D.
petra9. 06. 2013
Hey, has anyone hiked to Grintovec these days?? How much snow is left?
davidge4. 08. 2013
hinasmeh yesterday on the way between Kamniška Bistrica and Kokrško sedlo I lost my glasses. Possibly also somewhere on the Grintovca path. They are black from Drty Dog Fertme. If someone finds them by chancevelik nasmeh
primaky9. 08. 2014
I'm interested in the starting point in Koncu... they say it's not possible by car to the foot of the cable car, the car has to be left at the house in Kamniška Bistrica... this extends the path by about 1h.

At the top it says walking time to Cojzova koča is 2:15, I'm interested if this is from the hut in KB or from the foot of the cable car?
SunBurned9. 08. 2014
As far as I know, it is no longer explicitly prohibited. However, the road just before the cable car used to be destroyed to the point of being impassable at times, so the last 5 minutes had to be done on foot.
SunBurned9. 08. 2014
Now up to the base of the cable car.
Merymery24. 08. 2014
Hey has anyone driven by car to the starting point in Konec this year what's the road like we plan to climb Grintovec and Skuta so that hour would come in quite handy nasmehnasmehnasmeh
acjom24. 08. 2014
The road is very nice, the only potential problem is the weather, which this summer has too often prevented us from enjoying our mountainsnasmeh
Merymery24. 08. 2014
thanks for the information, I hope next weekend it will be possible to conquer at least something in these parts
nasmeh
regards
sebo30622. 09. 2014
has anyone been on this path to Grintovec recently? Is winter gear needed to cross snowfields - so I don't carry it unnecessarily?
redbull22. 09. 2014
up to today there was no snow,, if some falls tonight you'll see it tomorrow morning
Zgembo22. 12. 2014
here are some pics from yesterday's visit, there's some snow nasmeh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa847prR7B8&list=UU2PXZAQAbM9Pa3oo-OMsTSA
Nastasja21. 03. 2015
On March 19, crampons were found on the path to Grintovec. If you miss them, contact Marjan Kastelic (Marjan Kastelic-Muša) on FB.
Branee21. 03. 2015
do you have zs
Barentoter26. 10. 2015
Tomorrow I plan to pop up to Grintovec. Are there still winter conditions at the summit?
mančika30. 10. 2015
How are the winter conditions? Do you need crampons? Maybe Barentoter?
Barentoter30. 10. 2015
Was up there on Wednesday, crampons stayed in the backpack.
navrhu21. 01. 2016
On Saturday I would go from this starting point (V KONCU) to Grintovec. Is it possible to reach the starting point by car via the forest road?
Ringo24. 04. 2016
Hello, does anyone know if it's possible to reach Grintovec normally from Cojzo hut? On Wednesday 27.4 or Thursday 28.4, I am
Beginner
KJ24. 04. 2016
There might still be or again some snow under the hut.. But it will be cold and windy.
redbull25. 04. 2016
Stay nicely at home, because on Wednesday a nice load of snow is forecast. If you know the path, don't forget gaiters.

Good luck
mukica25. 04. 2016
From the Kamnik side, snow starts right as you exit the forest, not recommended for beginners without knowledge of using winter gear, plus a new snowfall is forecast. Likewise from the hut onwards, snow and mandatory winter gear. Careful and good lucknasmeh
Ringo25. 04. 2016
Thank you very much for the information, good luck
Ringo13. 05. 2016
I'm interested in what the path to Grintovec is like and if I need winter gear, I would go on Sunday thanks LP
Ekolog
denist18. 08. 2017
Hello,

Can anyone tell me if this path will match 'peš pot'
http://www.pespoti.si/izlet.php?id=5523

planning this weekend or next if the weather is nicenasmeh

Lp!
ben18. 08. 2017
It will match if you're just some fast mountain runner, but the timetable too zavijanje z očmi If I calculated correctly they estimated around 3.5 hours... yeah you have to be quite fast!!
denist18. 08. 2017
Above it says 5h, I planned 3h-3.5h, thanks for the info nasmeh

Lp!
ben18. 08. 2017
Yes, above it says 4 hours and 5 minutes. On this portal it only says to Skuta 5:15 and that's from below from parking under the waterfall, you would go from Dom planincev, then need to reach Grintovec too, add another 3 hours. So between 8 and 9 hours by marked times one way. If you're super fast then no problem!! velik nasmeh
LP B
Gost18. 08. 2017
As I understand the above description the start is at Grintovec and the goal in Logarska and even so some times seem suspiciously short to me.
N3bULA30. 08. 2017
Tour to Grintovec successful.
Today we had super weather so the whole ascent was pure pleasure.

Road to parking in Konc is open and passable.
I walked approx. 5 hours.
Path well maintained and secured, also not too much for those with mild vertigo.
At the top the stamp pad is dry, so bring your own.

best regards
danilol13. 07. 2019
I'm interested in what the trail is called that cuts directly from the bivouac under Grintavec to Grintovec. It is marked with a dashed black line on the map, but in reality there are old faded red markers along the trail. The trail branches off to the left if we go from the bivouac towards Mlinarsko sedlo. Actually, it's a shortcut so you don't have to go over Mlinarsko sedlo. It was quite varied but I can't find a description of the trail anywhere.
redbull14. 07. 2019
interesting
danilol14. 07. 2019
I learned that it's called the old hunting path, but there's no description on hribi.net
franca15. 07. 2019
nor on older maps is there any path from the bivouac to the top of Grintovec. The marked path is the one through Dolge stene, description is in the guidebooks and on hribi.net. Old hunting paths are through Žmavcarje, Gamsov skret and through Jurjevec.
redbull16. 07. 2019
bravo Franca
gipeon3. 07. 2022 13:06:33
Yesterday I did the mentioned path. The path initially leads through the forest, but soon the sun reaches the hiker. I recommend an early start, as the path is not short. Between Cojzova koča and the bivouac there are two exposed sections that require care, where you have to be focused. The bivouac is not the same as in the picture, but renovated, three-story, in short pleasant, with blankets inside. Between Cojzova koča and the bivouac yesterday around 10 a.m. I spotted about 12 ibex, be careful on the right side along the path. You can approach them to 5m. Towards the summit the section is quite demanding, but you don't need a via ferrata set, nor do I know where you could use it. A few scrambles, nice cliffs on left and right and you're at the top. I recommend descent to Cojzova koča on the other, easier side, as legs are quite tired. I was at the summit, at a moderate pace, in about 4.5 hours.
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