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Bošti73. 08. 2008 09:51:41
Since you know Plaz, I assume these hills aren't completely foreign to you.
You probably mean starting at Gradišče above Vipava. You have two options here.

1. From the parking lot go left where the sign says "Plaz 35 min". At Plaz you need a bit of caution. At the junction one path goes a bit left and quite straight, the other more right and slightly up. The right one is correct. Then just follow the markers. All the way gently uphill. After about half an hour you reach a small chapel where there's a path junction. Wide track leads straight to Abram. There's a sign too. You can't miss it. If you want to complicate things a bit, at the same junction you can turn right on the track and then walk about half an hour mostly flat (past the astronomical observatory) to a new junction where the "Abram" sign directs you left. From the right comes the path over Gradiška tura. Which is the second variant. At the junction you take the steepest path (and not right, as you might mistakenly interpret the direction sign "Gradiška tura 75 min". Path description to Gradiška tura is also here. Well, at the top follow the sign on the rock that says "Jež 45 min". After good five minutes you reach the junction I mentioned earlier (i.e. if you turn right at the chapel). Regardless of which variant you choose (I'd definitely go up via the tura and maybe down via Plaz), the path is well marked. Even better via the tura. Markers at all key points, just sometimes need to look better. It's also true that the path isn't very frequented and in places not heavily trodden. I haven't gone from the chapel to Abram yet, from the top of the tura it's say 1.5 hours walk. I think it's about the same on the other variant. Yes, the path runs practically all the time through forest, so it's relatively cool.
So, my suggestion: Gradišče above Vipava - Gradiška tura (climbing or normal) - Jež farm - Abram - chapel - Plaz - Gradišče above Vipava. About four hours moderate walking. Enjoy. If anything unclear, ask!

P.S. Or we can arrange guiding.
Bošti71. 08. 2008 19:04:52
I think it can be done even with "family walking" to reach Krn on the first day and then back to the lake. Books say 5 hours from Lepena to the summit and ca. 2 hours back. But you can reach the summit much earlier. Recently I took 3h 15min from Lepena to the summit. But in five hours, in my opinion, you get there "easy".
Go boldly.
Bošti730. 07. 2008 16:32:19
Yeah, and then marmot wraps chocolate in foil. Just that, Headstar.
Bošti730. 07. 2008 14:43:30
One of many options e.g. this: From the lake to Vratca (Bogatinsko sedlo) then to the hut on Komna (but since that's almost too little for one day you can jump from Bogatinsko sedlo to e.g. Lanževica). Second day from Komna over planina Govnjač to Mahavšček then Bogatin and from Bogatin back to Vratca to the lake and valley.
Another option first day from the lake to Velika Baba then overnight in the hut at Krn Lake. Second day ascent to Krn and back to Lepena. Haven't been to Velika Baba yet but elsewhere no notable "precipices".
Could list more but check the maps and decide what and how much you want.
Nice tour to you!
Bošti717. 07. 2008 19:23:55
Regarding bivouacs, the answer was already given. I just add data on current conditions. I was on Jalovec yesterday (16.7.) from Tamar to Kotovo sedlo and then descent via Mali kot or Jalovška škrbina or whatever you call it. On the ascent, you need to cross a gully, where there's still quite a bit of snow, but the snowfield can be bypassed on the upper side. On the descent, there's still a lot of snow on Jezerci. Ice axe is essential for crossing, crampons for faster and safer crossing. I didn't try climbing rocks above the snowfield. Maybe possible. Don't know. On descent from Goličica wall there's still some snow where ice axe is recommended but not essential. Belays from Mali kot are fine. Just watch out for quite a lot of scree on the rocks. Then crossing Ozebnik. It's only about 4-5 meters total, but steep, snow hard and if you slip, you stop at the rock where the path over scree branches off or at Kotovo sedlo. So ice axe is still mandatory for safe downward crossing, crampons recommended. At the transition from wall to snowfield, a bit of climbing needed. After this snowfield we haven't finished with the snow yet, as there's a smaller and a longer snowfield waiting, but snow was much softer there and ice axe just recommended. Between the two snowfields there's a smaller ridge which technically would pose no problems, if not for huge amount of loose stones which are far from stable. After those snowfields, descent on not ideal scree. On the "competing" forum (hope no censorship if I say it's PZS forum) it's said reverse variant is better. Mali kot up and Kotovo sedlo down. Agree. I think ascent on snowfields much easier than descent. And one more: this year around Jalovec much more snow than last year at same time.
So if you're at least medium experienced hikers, go ahead boldly. Better Mali kot up though ascent on scree quite nasty. Good luck.
         
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