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| redbull15. 12. 2016 06:10:54 |
Well this is already April 1st
On ice no sole prevents slipping, only crampons help. Everything depends on movement-walking-reflexes. Walking around the house for hours isn't important quality, but after several tours e.g. scree then everything shows.
Good luck
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| Zebdi15. 12. 2016 08:44:11 |
hobnails, redbull, hobnails 
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| ločanka15. 12. 2016 19:25:47 |
My sister bought new "tibetke" recently and tried them for the first time on Ratitovec and complained they slipped more than the old ones. Well, she got down to Prtovč faster, which isn't necessarily bad.
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| grega_z_brega15. 12. 2016 19:31:11 |
At least the descent doesn't drag for her... 
I also have high alpinines, haven't worn them so long I don't even know what they're like...
Don't remember anything to complain about.
Long long ago I had Planikines - that was a good shoe, good grip, comfortable and durable. I'd buy those again.
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| ločanka15. 12. 2016 19:37:11 |
yeah, damn how many do you have that you just forget some?
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| grega_z_brega15. 12. 2016 19:45:59 |
I wear low ones more or less, if there was no winter
Even that bit of April snow I waded in low ones.
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| darinka415. 12. 2016 20:16:44 |
Since you're talking about Tibet shoes. I had them now for Krn. Well, it was nine hours of walking. But when descending that last hour they pressed on my toes. Unpleasant walking. It seems they got hard in front, though they weren't before. And toes hurt for days. So Grega, don't walk in shoes you haven't worn for a while on longer tours. Meanwhile, low alpinines were totally fine and I walked a lot in them.
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| grega_z_brega15. 12. 2016 20:25:48 |
Once there is that much snow, it will be inevitable.
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| miri15. 12. 2016 20:28:06 |
@darinka4, toes hurt you because gojzarji were too small for you.
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| darinka415. 12. 2016 20:33:06 |
They weren't too small for me. It's a wide model. And my toes never hurt before. It just seems you have to wear the shoes constantly. I wore them in winter too.
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| Misantrof15. 12. 2016 23:20:16 |
I've been using Alpina Tibet for years, currently the fourth pair, and I can confirm the above statement that this newer sole really slips much more than the previous ones. If this sole stays standard, it'll be my last pair, because compared to previous pairs I feel quite uncomfortable in these. And I'm not talking about ice smooth as glass, they fail already at minor amounts of snow or mud...
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| Janezs16. 12. 2016 08:33:26 |
It can be a wide model, but what about length, 2 sizes larger than usual size (thicker winter socks). When walking downhill tighten the laces a bit so the foot doesn't slide forward. For soles it depends on the mix, plastic rubber, the more plastic the more slippery, it also depends on the profile roughness. Lp.
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| ljubitelj gora19. 12. 2016 20:01:16 |
Here the Gojzar Tibet is very popular, many pairs, but these newer TIBET V are 2x worse than the model without V label. So don't buy these newer ones, as they are worth shit. The profile wears out very fast, leather rubs off, the boot is also softer, not to mention how fast it gets soaked.
110 euros as much as they cost, thanks a lot, for 150 euros you already get decent gojzars. Either way with Tibet V you have to reckon the sole changes almost every season if you go to hills every weekend.
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| pater B20. 12. 2016 15:17:39 |
Does maybe someone know where in SLO besides IGLUSPORT one could still buy GARMONT hiking shoes or how it is with buying at the factory in Italy if they have their own shop there. Thanks for any information. lp
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| hikingman21. 12. 2016 14:33:42 |
All I can say about the above statements is that there is no gojzar that grips on icy ground without crampons. The sole, however, if it's Vibram it's Vibram; there is almost no manufacturer that doesn't put them on their models.
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| Smetar21. 12. 2016 16:08:14 |
@pater_B: http://www.garmont.com/it/contatti you write to them or call them (ita/eng) and they'll let you know or send them home if you know the exact size and model.
You can find the sellers at this address: http://www.garmont.com/it/store-locator
Vibram is just a brand; there are different sole profiles of that brand... so there are differences between them and some Vibram soles can perform better than others...
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| hikingman21. 12. 2016 16:35:05 |
@pater_B: it seems to me that some Garmont models are also sold in Iglu, at least a few years ago I bought some there
@Smetar regarding Vibram soles, here we're talking about mountaineering and hiking boots, although they also make soles for casual shoes, as I have some like that myself
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| Daaam21. 12. 2016 17:31:48 |
Vibram is a subcontractor. It sells the sole/rubber to the client as the client wants it. Of course they have their own standards, but nevertheless quite big differences can occur..
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| cenc13. 01. 2017 14:20:30 |
Since I was quite satisfied with the first pair of Alpina Lotse, I decided to get another pair.
This second one is, compared to the first, a disaster.
Now I'm looking for new hiking boots (winter) for semi-automatic crampons.
What do you recommend from other manufacturers based on your experience?
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