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| Janez Kastrevc12. 08. 2011 15:03:59 |
We always see this when we're on Triglav and similar peaks!!! I'm curious if when you baptize someone you say something too?? Or just whack them with the rope
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| otiv12. 08. 2011 16:48:13 |
You can kiss her too, since it's the first time up there
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| penzionist12. 08. 2011 16:59:40 |
Ha, extreme opinions will clash again with lots of outrage
I have a principle that not all tradition belongs in the trash and we should respect our ancestors somewhat. To some degree also in customs. So I still "perform" the baptism and pass it to young generations, in practice that means:
- some mountaineering trivia question, preferably ambiguous and somewhat joking so any answer can be wrong.
- due to "ignorance" then resolve it differently - meaning one or two whacks with the rope (mandatory, just some mountaineering symbol) on the butt. The whacks from very weak to medium strength - just to feel it a bit, never causing pain.
- then obligatory handshake, congrats and wishes for many more such climbs.
And that's it. Friendship and good wishes matter most. The baptizee must always agree to such baptism. So far no case where someone didn't.
The last point (handshake and congrats) used to be there after every summit and I find it a nice gesture I still do. Almost everyone I've been with in mountains does too. But whispers say some "youngsters" look at you awkwardly if you offer hand at top.
All this is purely my opinion, surely some die-hard opponents will show up again
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| tisa12. 08. 2011 17:45:25 |
I haven't heard of handshake at mountain tops yet, but it's a beautiful gesture I'd like to experience. Pity it's not practiced like "tepeš" at Triglav top. I think everyone deserves recognition if they try hard and reach the summit. Every thing has opponents, of course.
I'm sure there'll be very few on this topic.
Wish you many handshakes and safe steps. Best regards.
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| geppo12. 08. 2011 17:48:32 |
pensioner
But it's whispered that some "youngsters" just stare piercingly if you offer hand at top.
All this is exclusively my opinion, surely some die-hard absolute opponents will show up again wink
I'm no opponent of these gestures and good they stay.
I usually when on mountain top thought: now safely down!
If demanding pathless, I was in hurry...
Always had some "respect" for descent to valley.
Shake hand with those with me after far down. If trip, just scraped knee nothing more. On top for years no initiative hand. Down below OBLIGATORY gladly, when no danger left except drive home....
rgds
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| joža x12. 08. 2011 19:22:50 |
Yeah drive home is the real danger left so maybe wait till...?
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| francimedved12. 08. 2011 21:19:22 |
I'm definitely for a handshake and congratulations for the ascent on the top, as that's our goal.
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| serajko12. 08. 2011 22:07:13 |
rgds
For many years I've been kicking our rocks and I always baptize new first "climbers" on our Father symbolically. Handshake is a nice gesture not extinct yet. Here's a pic as proof even from last millennium. I agree with geppo-tom, real joy only in valley.!!
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| nanica12. 08. 2011 22:27:17 |
I captured such a baptism with my camera on one of our two-thousanders....
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| tisa12. 08. 2011 22:34:02 |
Well, from two-thousanders and above, no sin I suppose.
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| neph13. 08. 2011 10:14:39 |
On demanding tours I practice handshakes and congrats in the valley. Baptisms on Triglav top sometimes seem like a real circus to me, so I support them only if not seeking others' attention on top.
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| heinz13. 08. 2011 10:25:17 |
Well yeah, it's not a bad custom..
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| tisa13. 08. 2011 11:13:49 |
Also, the custom of greeting on mountain paths, which has been present for many years, is nice, but I feel that, especially among the youth, it's slowly disappearing. Pity.
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| Hribovc8813. 08. 2011 11:44:18 |
Such customs definitely need to be preserved, and also the handshake upon reaching the summit seems to me, as the predecessors wrote, a very nice gesture that I myself have been the recipient of several times when reaching some summit, and even though I'm young, I didn't look at it awkwardly Regarding greetings, I'd say that sometimes, especially e.g. on weekends, it becomes a bit annoying, but I personally always greet everyone friendly whom I meet or who comes towards me, it is true that especially the youth is very sullen, which is really concerning, well yeah, there are also some such among the older ones who just stare at the ground when passing by you. And sometimes it's worth stopping and chatting a bit with someone you see is of cheerful nature, instead of everyone rushing to their goal egoistically, namely some would go over bodies for that stamp... 
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| Lisica13. 08. 2011 14:12:05 |
If someone tried to hit me with a rope, I'd kick him right back. What custom? Have you gone crazy? This is a custom only in ButaliSovenistan.
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| mosovnik13. 08. 2011 14:15:00 |
Well, you'll say I'm a traditionalist. So what?! As an "older citizen", hi, hi, I had more than thirty times the pleasant task to baptize first-timers on Triglav, among others also my children.
Handshake to fellow hiker/someone on the summit I practice since I remember (my mom "gave" me that). Even now two days ago on Jalovec, I gladly and proudly, if you want, shook my son's hand.
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| krasovc13. 08. 2011 14:38:19 |
My son always asks if he really has to get it on the butt when he reaches the summit. Because I showed him some pictures and he's almost scared
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| katty13. 08. 2011 15:05:43 |
We (our family and all acquaintances) have the habit of baptizing only on Triglav. Although, last time, when I went to Viševnik for the first time, I told someone it was my first time, and he said, "well, if it's your first time, you must obligatorily baptize," and I just looked at him surprised. After this discussion, I'll change my opinion and always offer my hand to my "fellow sufferers" on the summit. As for greetings, I've also realized that among us young people it's less and less or, if it is, not from the heart. 15-20 years ago I hiked much more with my parents to the mountains, and I still remember that really everyone greeted or responded. Now you sometimes meet such folk who don't have such habits. Which seems to me a lack of mountaineering culture. But it's like this: when you really debate with someone, I always wish them a happy path and safe step.
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| lynx13. 08. 2011 16:23:56 |
In our family the baptism practice is already for conquering the first 2000m peak, but in the end it rarely manifests. Don't know why.
krasovc: mention him winter baptism, when you have at hand only ice axes and crampons, and he'll quickly rethink!
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| JusAvgustin13. 08. 2011 19:32:21 |
But what baptism, we go to the mountains because of firerja...
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| tomiš13. 08. 2011 20:23:17 |
And who even goes to Triglav in summer anymore, when there are incomparably better, prettier, more demanding peaks elsewhere.
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