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| VanSims24. 05. 2021 14:45:49 |
Good thing he's blocked, because God knows what donkey shit he wrote and pasted again if it's from 'necenzurirano'.  Blessed are the poor in spirit!
Everyone can follow what they want, in my humble opinion Nova24 and so-called 'necenzurirano' (we know who censors it) are on approximately the same mental level of audience with IQ smaller than shoe size.
That's the problem of these two portals, not because one is 'commie' and the other 'clerical'.
Just for info, @Becar, Mitterrand was a socialist!
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| julius24. 05. 2021 14:57:29 |
Von...či
And you're not exactly a big fan of truthfulness. You wrote:
"Good thing he's blocked, because God knows what donkey shit he wrote and pasted again if it's from 'necenzurirano'. big grin Blessed are the poor in spirit!"
So, if I'm "blocked", you don't know what I wrote, but if you know, then you're not telling the truth. In other words ....
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| Janez5224. 05. 2021 15:13:31 |
Becar attached an email that circulated recently about J. Attali's statements. The next day a denial of the first email arrived. Attaching the link.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jacques-attali-pandemic-euthanasia/
Translation: This is not the first time Attali is accused of supporting euthanasia and not the first time a fake, misleading or wrongly added quote is used as proof for this accusation. CheckNews, a branch of the French newspaper Liberation for fact-checking, wrote about a similar fake quote that spread in 2017. This fake quote supposedly comes from an interview published in 1981 by journalist Michel Salomon in the book "l'Avenir de La Vie" or "Future of Life." In this case the viral Facebook text included some short sentences from Attali's interview, but most excerpts (including parts about pandemic) were made up.
This call to reduce world population is apocryphal. Only two sentences are reliable and true, from Jacques Attali: the one about costs of sixty-year-olds to society ["But after 60/65 years man lives longer than he creates and then costs society more"], and the second according to which it is "much better for the human machine to stop suddenly instead of deteriorating gradually". They appear in the 1981 interview book l’Avenir de la vie (Seghers edition), where journalist Michel Salomon interviews Jacques Attali. However the economist does not advocate general euthanasia. Instead he speaks against infinite life extension, after revealing some thoughts on leaders' and companies' interest for people to live long depending on their health status.
AFP examined this quote also in an article published in May 2021. It found that Attali was asked during the Salomon interview if it would be "possible and desirable to live 120 years." Attali answered the question at length and although he concluded euthanasia could be a tool of future societies, he does not advocate killing the elderly. In fact Attali won a libel case in 1984 against a medical journal that accused him of supporting euthanasia for the elderly. Attali told AFP that viral FB messages are "completely made up" and "not close to the original text."
In summary: Attali spoke about the possibility that euthanasia become a tool for future societies, but did not advocate mass killing of the elderly. Misleading, fabricated quotes out of context related to this issue have been wrongly attributed to Attali since the 1980s. In 2021 this misleading euthanasia quote got a modern twist when social media users inserted pandemic-related language.
Dan Evon
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| VanSims24. 05. 2021 15:33:55 |
Thanks @Janez52!
As I wrote above, hard to imagine a socialist president having such an advisor, more like some right-wing turbo capitalist.
Mitterrand among other things nationalized many companies and was the ideological father of the 35-hour workweek (implemented later under the left Jospin government), which is still today one of the factors hindering France's economic development.
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| Becar24. 05. 2021 15:40:53 |
Well yeah, let everyone believe what they want. I believe the original text, someone believes the denial of the original text. Even to certain Nazi camps they drove invalids and mentally ill for "treatment" and those few still living old Nazis still claim they were treating them there.
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| VanSims24. 05. 2021 15:50:45 |
Yeah, see @Becar, that's denial and falsifying facts: if you ask today's German neo-Nazis, they'll say there was no camp at all, that it's an invention of the Allies, conspiracy against the German nation...
Luckily Germany today has legislation prohibiting the spread of such ideas, otherwise they'd be active on facebooks and forums. And folk who trust those sources more than verified facts would of course fall for them. Just like they now fall for anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists.
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| Becar24. 05. 2021 16:17:41 |
...meaning the anti-vaxxer (YOU)?
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| VanSims24. 05. 2021 17:34:33 |
No, the anti-vaxxer who's been jabbed with everything, but lectures others.
For info, I've only been vaccinated once since the army, when going to China (tetanus, hepatitis A). But I'll still get vaccinated when a reliable classic covid vaccine comes (presumably NOVAVAX).
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| hočo24. 05. 2021 18:02:20 |
VanSims, a serious question, since you obviously know something about vaccines. Novavax is supposed to be a classic vaccine, similar to the vaccines that have been around so far? The others are some mRNA and vector ones and thus still untested. I haven't delved that deep yet, but apparently no one will escape the injection sooner or later...
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| VanSims24. 05. 2021 18:33:32 |
Novavax is also based on newer technology (subunit, protein subunit in our terms), but there are already quite a few vaccines with this technology (hepatitis B, rubella, measles, some rabies and tetanus vaccines), so it's quite classic.
Definitely no longer experimental and already in regular use for some vaccines.
GlaxoSmith's covid vaccine is also supposed to be subunit but still in development.
Subunit vaccine
Novavax COVID-19 vaccine
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| hočo24. 05. 2021 18:47:05 |
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| djimuzl24. 05. 2021 19:25:57 |
"...when the classic vaccine for Covid comes..."
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| VanSims25. 05. 2021 06:06:05 |
Marjanček, how old are you? Two? Three? And you already know to repeat words you understand. And you even chuckle nicely at the end. Pliiidn!
Still, let those listen to you who are forced to. Not me!
Bye, bye!
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| Becar25. 05. 2021 07:15:24 |
I listened yesterday evening on 24ur to Mateja saying that the green phase is approaching us, but they will make two phases from the green phase, one of them will allow extension of the epidemic. I think no additional comment is needed
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| julius25. 05. 2021 14:51:56 |
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| Becar25. 05. 2021 17:23:24 |
I saw it  But you know, they were just waving to the cameraman Anyway, JJ was hinting yesterday at civil war. This party should be legally banned.
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| julius25. 05. 2021 17:56:22 |
Becar
check out what pamphlet he wrote under the Šmarna gora topic.
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| Becar25. 05. 2021 18:08:49 |
Indian government officially demands removal of all posts containing "Indian variant" or "Indian strain" - which virtually all mass media in Slovenia use - because the latter, even by WHO ... DOES NOT EXIST!
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| pikica125. 05. 2021 19:07:39 |
@primoza, who is this Simon 
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| Becar25. 05. 2021 19:19:59 |
Bucko and Van have blocked users, now they're asking. What did he say? Who is this Jožko? Where did Mirko go? Priceless for a nice end of the day!
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