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Trobec2. 07. 2021 20:37:07
Yes, today's announcement of quarantine for vaccinated and recovered really shows complete idiocy and incompetence of "our" regime. Or...deliberate terrorism over citizens. What they've actually been doing all the time since Friday the 13th...
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Becar2. 07. 2021 20:48:47
Sadly Trobec, I think it's the second one, because I think they can't be that stupid!

THE ONLY THING THAT MUTATES ARE NEW LIES!!!
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Trobec2. 07. 2021 22:40:25
Primož, because this is direct spitting in the bowl of the entire healthcare, all those striving for higher vaccination rate. Because it gives anti-vaxxers new wind in sails and new arguments why not to vaccinate, which someone who doesn't understand well easily accepts. In short, with this the government (or whoever issued the order) proves again that it's the worst (albeit covert) anti-vaxxer in the country.
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VanSims3. 07. 2021 14:59:11
Greetings from Austria first!

As for the delta, that's not quite accurate! At least for those of us vaccinated with Johnson. I heard on the radio here that it protects against delta by as much as 85% and for at least 8 months. cool

Otherwise, discos opened here yesterday, and 68% of Austrians think that testing children over six years old, which they plan to introduce, is unnecessary or even harassing.
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VanSims3. 07. 2021 15:07:57
@Janez N.: sex with grandma is just sex as such, between two adults and I don't know why he could get compensation.

Nowadays even, if someone accuses you of being gay, question if you'd get anything. Because if so, that means it's something bad and gays would go up in flames right away. mežikanje
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VanSims3. 07. 2021 15:21:16
Primož was talking about life and probability and I remembered my thoughts yesterday while climbing Kitzklettersteig:

Because just before leaving, something unpleasant happened to me, so to not spoil the start of my vacation too much, I thought of life as one long via ferrata: sometimes easy, sometimes hard.

When I climb an easy via ferrata, up to max. B, I'm not satisfied, I look for harder ones, yesterday's gave me adrenaline and I was more than satisfied.

But in life it's the opposite: we complain when there are problems and avoid them. But they are needed for progress, on this long, long via ferrata of our life! nasmeh
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SamoK3. 07. 2021 18:31:49
National unity in Israel!
That's the joke of the century!
I mean, you're sick, moron, regardless of corona.
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Becar3. 07. 2021 19:02:05
Bojana Karadžić assessed before the commission that it was wrong because they didn't introduce a complete movement ban. Nuremberg trials 2.0 against covid mafia and Dr. Mengeles are already underway, the obsessed instead of repenting say that they haven't fucked us enough yet... Everything is being stored, recorded!
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Becar3. 07. 2021 19:10:23
VanSims, did you have FFP2 on the via ferrata? So some marmot doesn't infect you....
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pantani14. 07. 2021 12:17:22
Sharing a doctor's note who knows very well what he's talking about. Using rapid antigen tests is throwing money out the window!!! On the other hand, many of us in healthcare work in unlivable conditions because there's no money for equipment, proper spaces.... "Rapid antigen tests in general testing have been professionally meaningless for MONTHS, not to say harmful. Financially, it's the biggest waste of money so far. Data for 29.6. (source: NIJZ): number of active cases in the country is 628 - prevalence is thus (628/2,100,000)= 0.03% positive predictive value of the test (with 95% sens. and 99% spec.) is thus 1.4%! That means 98.6% are false positives! Pre-test probability that a person on the street is negative is thus 99.97%! With a negative test we raise that probability to 99.999999%. Really useful.... The problem is mainly financial logic: To find 1 infected person, we need to do 3333 tests (if you price at 15€, that's 49,995€), additionally send 33 false positives to PCR (if PCR is 60€ = 1980€) To find one infected person, you spend 51,975€. If I put it more simply...to find 20 people with this measure, for that money you can buy one MRI machine, or practically energy renovate any health center, or procure about 20 ambulances...etc, etc... This amount doesn't include costs of leaving work, waiting for test results for all risky contacts at work... Data a few months ago weren't much better...and no one listens..."I
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zavest4. 07. 2021 18:14:17
Definitely his name is Janez N. velik nasmeh
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Becar4. 07. 2021 18:36:48
There's quite a high probability, yes it is. There are in fact a lot of Janez N. in Slovenia velik nasmeh
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VanSims4. 07. 2021 19:35:40
Ha, Austrians are inventive unlike ours: in Vienna they organize vaccination parties to attract people. People come, get vaccinated, then also eat something, drink, chat and socialize. nasmeh

I do agree that quarantine for vaccinated is nonsense. Switzerland, where I'm going now, has free entry for all vaccinated, even from red areas, even from areas of spreading variants (Brazil, India).
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zavest4. 07. 2021 19:40:01
Well, Panta(lo)ni wrote that we also have these spontaneous vaccination parties here, just haven't mastered cleaning up needles in parks yet...
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lino4. 07. 2021 19:47:15
Becar, you as a very educated, polished and insightful influencer could greatly help Slovenia achieve herd immunity. We strongly count on your goodwill and positive agitation. You have more than enough followers! I gave you a thumbs up. nasmeh
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Becar4. 07. 2021 20:13:09
Van, Austria is overall a super country, especially for supporters of our government (you). You probably know that too, that they've already done there what our biggest water expert Vizjak proposes
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zavest4. 07. 2021 20:13:44
@Lino, nail on the head or jab in the arm velik nasmeh We really need someone who's so broadly knowledgeable, knows 50,000 people and can *delve* especially into the older population, because that's where vaccination is most critical.
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Becar4. 07. 2021 20:16:06
Lino, as very educated, polished and all you wrote, I tried to help Slovenia achieve herd healthy sense. I wasn't successful, Ne(zavest) is living proof!
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pantani15. 07. 2021 07:21:54
Worth reading, but the baby (zavest) and the selfie master will again find the 101st counterargument.



https://www.slovenskizdravniki.si/mojim-otrokom-o-cepljenju/
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Becar5. 07. 2021 11:50:30
Interesting to me that in July 2021 in some simple way without own calculations it's still not possible to get official data for crude death rate for 2020 by individual countries. They had announced that data would be published in June, when that date came, everything was delayed by a month etc.... The whole world is interested in exact official data, but they don't publish them for so long or delay. And crude death rate is such a simple number, almost no simpler. They just add up deaths and divide by population.

So the question arises, maybe it was found that globally no unexpected increase in mortality was detected and now covid mafia is pressuring those institutions, data is being fudged..... all so that covid profiteers can keep us on a leash again and this corona madness never ends.

Can you imagine if after publishing the numbers it turned out what a scam it is? Covid mafia would be target of lynching, asset seizure etc... Let's not forget what influential lobbies are involved here.

And someone will say again....conspiracy theories.... of course, just like for 70 years all UFO witnesses were labeled crazy and conspiracy theorists, officials were threatened with liquidation if they revealed info. And what do we have after 70 years? Official admission - US army report that from 2004 to now they observed (and filmed, documented) 144 UFO cases, of which only one during investigations was explained as earthly origin. 143 cases remain unexplained.
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