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VanSims2. 08. 2021 07:40:45
Second part of the Monty Python absurd comedy "In the Hayloft" aka "Let's tell them the truth":

The Czech president got vaccinated already in January, later scolded health minister Blatny why he didn't order Russian Sputnik when other vaccines were still scarce. Lady Vera, you don't think we don't know how to use Google. zmeden

Why muting the sound on names and surnames of doctors opposing vaccination? For one even 'read his articles'. Yeah, how if we don't know who he is? velik nasmeh


"You were guinea pigs when you got vaccinated against meningitis, tetanus, flu, hepatitis" OK, get to the point: what do you want to say with that, that vaccines aren't effective or that those diseases don't exist?'


Initiative of young doctors? If I find out my GP is there, I'll change her immediately. Otherwise an ordinary pleb who reads uncritically, just because some doctors say it, he'll buy it. The rest of us go to Google for other opinions.

As for what she said about the dirty dealings doctors were into before Covid, I completely believe it. I have negative experiences with them too, but that doesn't change my view on Covid itself and vaccination against it.
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pantani12. 08. 2021 09:41:51
Regarding PTC condition, I don't get it anymore, vaccinated and recovered can move freely even though they can and are virus carriers, healthy must test before entry to confirm they are healthy, who now guarantees that the healthy tested person will leave the room uninfected.
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pantani12. 08. 2021 10:41:51
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zokipoki2. 08. 2021 11:35:12
Pantani, nobody can guarantee you anything and nonsense is everywhere. The more you wonder, the more confusion there is. I completely understand you.nasmeh
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Becar2. 08. 2021 12:01:42
Pantani, regarding the PCT condition...

According to the official CDC announcement that vaccinated (and of course recovered logically) are equal virus carriers as unvaccinated, it is clear that PCT is merely self-serving. In other words, the purpose is:

- serving the covid mafia at the expense of tests
- further unconstitutional restriction of human rights
- and of course forcing vaccination; if you get vaccinated, they won't shove sticks up your nose every 48 hours anymore

All of course unconstitutional, illegal, discriminatory still. At this point, one wonders if there aren't some quick and concrete legal levers that would make a relatively quick end to these crimes against humanity? And how is it possible that this has been going on for 1.5 years without criminal prosecution of those responsible? Here something really needs to be done in the future, even a constitutional amendment if necessary.

I think specialized courts for quick procedures will need to be established for the covid mafia, if it doesn't all take too long and these criminals destroy a good part of our lives.
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Trobec2. 08. 2021 12:25:32
That vaccinated and recovered are equal virus carriers as those who come into contact with it for the first time is strongly at odds with entire microbiology and immunology. Because in that case it would mean that there is NO immunity.
Of course nothing is 100%, but that a recovered or vaccinated is positive is usually a test problem. In short, positive is by no means the same as sick. Even in unvaccinated and those who have not recovered, in those who have already been in contact with the viral antigen, the correlation is even lower.
But with the PCT condition, the biggest problem is actually T. Especially if that T is some "quick sloshing" (like from those crypto-scam sniffers).
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pantani12. 08. 2021 12:42:18
In early August it will apparently rain. But if we diligently carry umbrellas already now, maybe we can avoid heavier downpours! Same with covid..... big grinbig grinbig grin
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Becar2. 08. 2021 12:48:06
"Because in that case it would mean that there is NO immunity."

Well, we've finally come to the conclusion or official confirmation of the world scam smile And behind this conclusion stands an official institution with an official study.
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Trobec2. 08. 2021 13:00:22
Isn't that official institution part of the covid mafia? Or an important part of the covid mafia's PR? Don't tell me you trust them now? confused
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Becar2. 08. 2021 13:03:46
When did I write that CDC is part of the covid mafia?
Trobec, whom do you trust then, reveal it so others know whom to believe in this case.
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pantani12. 08. 2021 15:13:21
Vaccinated are the biggest culprits for the spread of the epidemic. Why? Because they too can get covid, but in "MILDER" form, so they are also contagious. But since they are vaccinated, no one checks them anymore and they can go everywhere. And if someone is infected and doesn't know it, they happily spread the virus further among the population! So even already vaccinated should test for visits to all events, taverns, hotels, restaurants...ETC....angry
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VanSims2. 08. 2021 15:42:56
So if it's a mafia, we won't get rid of it easily. What quick procedures (aha, smells like postwar hasty courts, some would like those times to return), legal levers and even constitutional changes.

Where in the world have they defeated any mafia yet. Look at Italy, for over a hundred years they can't get rid of it. It's eaten into every pore and slowly destroys the country. Same with this mafia. What Nuremberg II, mafia has everything bribed. That German lawyer will fold like lightning. Doesn't he fear for his life?

God forbid it's some mafia, because then no wonder it's only 1.5 years here. It will last much longer! But to be clear, let one of the antivaxxers say who are the institutions that are part of the covid mafia? So we're clear for next time. Sometimes some are, sometimes not. CDC is no longer then. Which ones are? Which are trustworthy sources? Uncensored e.g. no longer.

But this covid mafia is a bit clumsy. Keeps spitting in its own bowl. First extends the protection duration for recovered. First three months, then six, now already eight. Talk of several years.

So recovered don't need to vaccinate. With that covid mafia loses revenue. Why? Wouldn't it stay at three months.

And ultimately why vaccinate people at all? Wouldn't it earn from tests. How many times everyone would have to test! HUUUUGE profits. Anyway no deaths or it's just a common cold and numbers exaggerated. So why vaccine if it could earn unlimited from tests?
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VanSims2. 08. 2021 15:48:39
>Vaccinated are the biggest culprits for the spread of the epidemic.

Oooo, super. Then I nicely spread the virus around. Cool! I'm glad as many as possible get it and get sick! I enjoy it! smile

I'm a little psychopath, psychopath. big grin

That Korean or Japanese who deliberately spread the virus was punished. Wouldn't he wait for vaccination. Then he would nicely happily spread it and no one could contradict him anymore. Because I'm vaccinated! smile
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Becar2. 08. 2021 15:54:09
Let's remind. Corona viruses are cold viruses, they have existed for eternity and new strains have been appearing for eternity. In 2019, a NEW VIRUS did not appear, but only a mutated virus from the corona virus family, that is, what has been happening all the time and what will happen in eternity or as long as the Earth exists.

And what is most convenient, to turn something completely normal and actually expected into a horrific story about an escaped catastrophically dangerous virus from a Chinese laboratory, strangling people on streets, army barely carting away corpses, burning people on pyres and throwing into the river.... Have we already forgotten the manipulation attempt and mass vaccination with the so-called swine flu? And the great panic with bird flu? Do we even realize that these people, besides enormous economic damage, abolition of human rights, theft of our money, also caused huge fatalities? Let's not forget what doctors warned in summer 2020. "Other serious diseases are neglected, the number of oncology patients decreases by 40% etc...." Remember also health phones on MUTE when you needed help, but the security guard wouldn't let you in without announcement! Suddenly other diseases became unimportant, only covid exists!

Here, now we have a new strain, next year a new strain, every year new strains... but strains of what? Virus that existed before 2019. So people, if we don't end this madness ourselves, they will manipulate us all our lives and all our descendants. Remember that. Watch the movie Hunger Games, there it shows approximately what they want to make of us.

And when the medical chamber publicly publishes a lie that covid vaccines have permission for regular use and that they are not vaccines in test phases, then you know everything I wrote is true. I just saw an advertising billboard where two doctors (or dressed as doctors) say: We got vaccinated because the vaccine is safe and effective. THAT IS A CRIME! According to the January resolution of the European Council, it should say: these are vaccines in experimental phase, vaccination is not mandatory.
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Trobec2. 08. 2021 17:58:52
Becar, given that this covid mafia is very rich and influential and controls numerous doctors, scientists... I just assumed that CDC is theirs too. And that Fauci is one of the main spokesmen of the covid mafia. And then I'm also interested in FDA and EMA (those two that issue permits for vaccine marketing). Are they part of the covid mafia or not? So I don't misinterpret or generalize again.

It's hard in this corona madness to fully trust anyone, because we hear new and new peaks of idiocies every day, from both sides. Well, I trust that the knowledge acquired during studies and later during work (MSc in pharmacy) gives me the ability to read and understand studies in medicine, microbiology, pharmacology,...
And therefore I can claim that the statement that vaccinated or RECOVERED (even if we assume vaccines are crap) transmit the virus equally as someone who encountered it for the first time is complete nonsense. True, I haven't read that famous article yet, but I strongly doubt it's written exactly like that. Probably something is "lost in translation" (read: when a social science journalist writes a summary of a natural science article). Because that would be in complete contradiction to over 100 years of research in microbiology and immunology. And in contradiction to 100 and 100x practically verified and proven models of spread of all other infectious diseases.
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Becar2. 08. 2021 18:07:16
Trobec, I don't really care which organization is part of the covid mafia and which isn't, understand? They should deal with that or are already dealing in the context of international lawsuits, investigative bodies should investigate that, courts judge.

For Slovenia I have my own list of our Karadžićs and Mladićs, but investigative bodies have to do their job.

And what will you do for society to end this madness? Or does the situation maybe even suit you? What kind of bonuses?
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VanSims2. 08. 2021 18:18:35
Let's remind. MERS, coronavirus. 30% mortality. Well, that's one heck of a cold! eek

SARS (the first one 20 years ago). Coronavirus. 10% mortality. 1% in young people. I haven't heard of a cold that kills every tenth person and every hundredth kid.
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Becar2. 08. 2021 18:21:08
Many have been bought by the covid mafia with so-called "bonbons", they receive a couple hundred euros, so they can steal millions in between in peace. Of course for doctors bonbons are not enough, you have to give some chocolate already.
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VanSims2. 08. 2021 18:37:40
What about saccharin? velik nasmeh
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Trobec2. 08. 2021 19:11:44
Becar, I'll probably take a gun and go to the forest, like grandpa 80 years ago.
But I'm interested in what you will do... because writing essays about the mafia doesn't move that mafia much...
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