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Becar11. 08. 2021 07:26:47
Piotr, you have every right with like-minded to gather "a few per mille" too, because I think soon we'll have to light candles again in front of the court and cry with mamas. How unfair this is, they were only saving human lives, the people don't understand at all....
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Sargon11. 08. 2021 10:19:33
SPIKE JONES. Hard to understand the point of this skit. It only evoked two associations for me – 1. Spike protein and 2. Hitler, Third Reich and medicine.

Since Hitler is thrown around left and right, something about that.

Germany after WW1 with huge losses of young men, attempt at Bolshevik revolution and economic crisis with hyperinflation was in total chaos. With promises of order and discipline, punishing the guilty and return to mythical Germanic greatness, the Nazis gained the exhausted German people.
Whoever thinks it's all Hitler's fault, that he was just a Joker who misled the people with speeches, should listen to Carl Jung who says: Hitler is the mouthpiece of the German people's collective subconscious.
Hitler was obsessed with order and purity. In 1923 in an interview for an American newspaper he said his maxim is a healthy mind in a healthy body. Once in power, Nazis precisely defined what a healthy mind and healthy body is. Then interventions in asylums and execution of mentally ill followed. They established a genetic health court where in 10-minute sessions they determined if a person was genetically ill or not. Consequently, over 100,000 women had to abort, thousands died in the process.
All this was done by doctors, not Gestapo.

An extraordinarily large share of doctors were in the Nazi party. Later they excused themselves that they just obeyed orders. Many doctors remained sensible, but manic hysteria swept them away.
How was it possible to go from initial progressive public health work to mass murders and horrific human experiments?
On the path to hell there was a labyrinth of steps going up and down. Where was the one where they crossed the line from which there was no return? Maybe there were several, but one is certainly: When a doctor, instead of being a confidant, advisor and advocate for the individual patient, becomes primarily a partner of the state, its bureaucracy and capital, he loses his mission.

When the Nazi hysteria ended, they wondered how it was possible. Do we want another lesson, or are we already asking now how it's possible to determine in 10 minutes with an unreliable test if a person is healthy or not and consequently forbid movement. And a completely healthy person is suspected in advance and must prove with tests overseen by medical bureaucracy that he is healthy and pay for it himself.

A typical example of perverted relationship is the lady who described problems after vaccination. The doctor who vaccinates, state partner – advertised everywhere, always available. When things go wrong, no medical confidant or advisor anywhere. And like with many other problems, when this top ''evidence based medicine'' fails, she's left with some Dr. Mercola, but now they have also lustrated him and his likes.
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Becar11. 08. 2021 10:25:32
VAERS and OFFICIAL 11045 deaths after vaccination. I won't speculate how many unofficial ones there are given that autopsies aren't even done....

Now I'm interested in how many official victims of vaccination there are in SLO, because media published only one death of diplomat's wife, which they probably couldn't hide.

Because posts about filming covid wards, personal stories of covid patients, celebrities crying who hung by a thread of life, and all survived later..... they bombarded us with that every day.


Sending also link to speech of Australian senator Malcolm Roberts who reveals the truth about what's happening in Australia. Will we wait for the same to happen to us?

link
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pikica111. 08. 2021 10:48:14
@Sargon, well written.
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zavest11. 08. 2021 11:07:22
Bećar screams "experimental vaccine", but doesn't distinguish between experiment and conditional approval. Nothing unusual, since he also has proven trouble distinguishing positive and negative numbers.

For easier illustration: we did experiments in elementary school in chemistry, or Dr. Mengele on people, conditionally they allowed those with smooth brains to enroll in the next elementary school grade and conditionally covid vaccine is approved.

Don't fool yourself that the flowerbed of anti-vaxxers would go get vaccinated if the vaccine was fully approved here and now. The excuse would just be of another kind nasmeh

By the way, has Bećar managed to check how well the USA is progressing? velik nasmeh

@MitjaBelak, I'm glad you laugh at my comments, because the Bećars are on the other side worth crying for velik nasmeh
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pantani111. 08. 2021 11:41:28
If pharmaceuticals, politicians and other profiteers cared about people's health, they should have tested the entire population with antibody tests before autumn! That way we would get a real figure on what percentage of the population has antibodies, whether from vaccination or infection. That's the one and only test I accept. But they don't do it, because they know that the vast majority already have antibodies and they continue scaring with sniffling and sneezing, which like every virus so far will take some lives that a draft or another innocent virus would carry away anyway.
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guki11. 08. 2021 12:27:37
For Becar

https://www.nijz.si/sites/www.nijz.si/files/uploaded/tedensko_porocilo_nu_covid19_2021_29-30.pdf


With vaccination. In short, almost every one who died died from countless other chronic diseases. All expected, as it should be.

All who died from covid 65+ really none really none had other chronic diseases (on my honor).
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Becar11. 08. 2021 12:36:55
Pantani, I absolutely agree. One should also ask how much money we threw away for all these proven inadequate tests, useless masks and stupid apps and all the vaccination propaganda (which is ultimately against EU law), all doctors' bonuses and their 20,000 EUR salaries, while we could have built a new hospital department, installed ventilation systems as one of the key factors to reduce transmission of all viruses, not just covid. How much funds have we allocated for autopsies of people where cause of death is covid and how much for autopsies of deaths after vaccination, to have some real insight into all this. How much money we invested in development of covid TREATMENTS? How many new school spaces we provided so students could have greater safety distance? When we answer these questions, the matter must be crystal clear!
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Becar11. 08. 2021 13:45:12
Guki, so to summarize, officially in our country there are NO deaths due to vaccination nasmeh

No, right, Slovenes are a tough nation!
(doesn't apply to covid, there we are dying en masse)

Just reading, someone from a large factory in Domžale wrote that a colleague at 51 years old fell into a coma and died a few days after the first dose.

But that's how it goes for testing MPs for drugs:
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Becar11. 08. 2021 13:53:24
Author: Gal Kovačič

I would like to publicly thank the Ramada hotel in Kranjska Gora for the crazy experience...
Well it went something like this. We booked the hotel for a vacation, why not, ("use some old vouchers"). We arrive at the hotel and the receptionist greets us (don't know the name yet, but I'll find out). Everything went smoothly until we got to the PCT condition. I've never been sick in my life and in the whole year I haven't had the "luck" to get infected with this "deadly virus". The most interesting thing is that because of this condition I apparently became less human (say Jew during WWII, or we all know stories about dark-skinned people..) Anyway the receptionist, whom I pointed out that all PCT are currently unconstitutional and violate my rights, escorted me out of the hotel with friendly words "Get out of the hotel", and then, since he is so knowledgeable about legal laws, called the police. Too bad they came and wrote a report in my favor, and he doesn't even realize it yet... Well if I'm a bit more specific in the EU Official Journal 2021/953 in the third article in paragraphs 6 and 7 it nicely says the following:
Possession of certificates from paragraph 1 is not a precondition for exercising the right to free movement.
7. Issuance of certificates based on paragraph 1 of this article shall not cause discrimination based on possession of a particular
category of certificate from article 5, 6 or 7...
After consulting a lawyer I also got reliable information that the hotel is not a health institution, I don't have to disclose my health status to anyone if I don't want to, and also as written in the Constitution, no one should be discriminated because of PCT condition. If we go one step further, on the test they shouldn't issue your data, nor are hotel staff and waiters people authorized to that information... Those who got vaccinated, I hope they also read what is written on the paper they signed.
In the end I would just add that I find it strange that there are more infected this year than last, and we already have so many vaccinated. Also I haven't met a person who collapsed on the ground and died because of €ovid-19, as would befit a real epidemic. Whoever knows history will know what I'm talking about. Whoever looks a bit deeper and takes swine flu as example, which "raged", can also see that Covid is the slightly older brother they projected over our beautiful land...
In the end I really want to thank everyone for such a great vacation, apparently the best is at home..
Anyway whoever doesn't know and isn't aware of their rights, compensation starts from 5000€ onwards.
Anyway I wish everyone well, and if you got vaccinated you have all my support and I wish you the best and hope you realize that you got vaccinated to protect yourself, because the vaccine is safe. Just like you got vaccinated for tetanus..
Anyway I don't discriminate anyone, everyone has the right to decide and live as they want.
Best regards! Dear receptionist, we'll probably meet again
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guki11. 08. 2021 15:29:50
No Becar, for one it's almost known that it's not yet known. For all others it's known that they had 20,000 other chronic diseases; one has to be very careful what one reads.
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Becar11. 08. 2021 16:17:25
Bild editor apologizes to viewers for generating false fear regarding covid-19


link
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hočo11. 08. 2021 16:47:09
Pity, because some complicate it so much. Every year we go to KG on family vacation, this year too, but I'd rather not write the hotel name. One just tests and shows the SMS to the receptionist on arrival (anyway no one really looks what the SMS says). And that's it. Otherwise you have 2x free testing every day in KG, Fabjan clinic. They just put a container on the parking in the style of "ko to tamo pjeva" and they cash in. So gently as they take the swab, I can test every day until death, and I still have proof that I'm healthy velik nasmeh
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Trobec11. 08. 2021 16:52:37
Still, anyone who doesn't want to get vaccinated and tested can catch that "Poklukar's Pokemon" and show his QR cool
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Becar11. 08. 2021 16:59:45
Hočo, does this seem normal to you? So you're one of those; I test to keep peace, in between I cheat a bit, without wondering if it's right or wrong. No more desire for normal life?

OK, I respect, though I don't understand.

Trobec, pokemon doesn't work anymore, now name and surname too and they know right away what time it is velik nasmeh
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Trobec11. 08. 2021 18:24:03
What's the name and surname, if just yesterday a colleague for fun told the waiter to check the printed crumpled sheet, if it reads the code. And on the phone only a green checkmark showed up, no other data.
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Becar11. 08. 2021 18:30:14
Do we remember how someone here mocked the example and imitating Israel? Here you have data on how things look in the exemplary vaccinated country:

- in the last day 6275 new cases
- 394 covid patients
- 87 in critical condition

Something doesn't add up, right? They have the hottest part of the season, there shouldn't be viruses in general. No one probably dares to think about the cause in vaccines. zavijanje z očmi

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Becar11. 08. 2021 19:02:09
I don't know, Trobec. Crack said there's now a new app with name and surname. Maybe not all have updated yet. What, are you Janez Poklukar too? velik nasmeh

#jesuisjanezpoklukar
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VanSims11. 08. 2021 19:08:22
>>>Author: Gal Kovačič

Se non è vero, è ben trovato! velik nasmeh

>>>Bild editor

In the age of modern editors, modern tools, ... such news sites that look somewhat serious can be set up as if by blinking. Already about eight years ago I helped one high schooler set it up in .NET for a seminar.

And again when you click "contact", only email and Facebook, "about us" is just bla bla, author of most articles some phantom "Vigor Colnar"

>>>So you're one of those; I test for peace, cheat a bit in between, without asking if right or wrong. No more desire for normal life?

Since when Becar suddenly this? Isn't it all nonsense, because first virus is normal flu with 0.2 percent mortality, second tests anyway show completely wrong or are unreliable. Normal life anyway won't be or when covid mafia wants?

>>>Israel

58% vaccinated is ok, but far from exemplary.

Iceland, Israel, UK, Seychelles, ... are countries that relaxed measures when they thought no longer needed. Normal that numbers increase, but of course not catastrophic as without vaccination. Virus 2-3 times more contagious!

In UK e.g. after initial shock numbers already slightly declining.
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pantani111. 08. 2021 19:59:22
900 thousand vaccinated, 600 thousand who have recovered so there remain 500 thousand of us who in a year and a half haven't gotten sick despite terrible scaring and I assume we won't either because otherwise we would have already!! So who will fill the hospitals if some don't get sick and recovered are immune??
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