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pantani124. 11. 2021 20:09:02
THANKS...



I would like to congratulate all governments and health ministers of the last 30 years, as well as all health professionals who have squandered millions and millions of euros. Likewise thanks to all intermediaries in the procurement of medical equipment, for opaque operations and incredible dedication in squandering taxpayer money. Thanks also to all doctors who for subpar service sit in various clinics daily and with incredible dedication fill their pockets. Of course, no thanks without Slovenian insurance companies and the supplementary insurance system, into which citizens pay huge millions, so that then we can pay out-of-pocket in real time for quality treatment. Once again thanks to all mentioned before, without you healthcare would never be in total collapse. REALLY BRAVO. angryangryangry
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Becar24. 11. 2021 20:09:35
So that corona fascism gets some context...

VON DER LEYNEN AND ALBERT BOURLA (PFIZER DIRECTOR)

Masks, distance,...... meh that's for the plebs. He apparently isn't even vaccinated big grin

We here almost lick each other, they put masks on 6-year-olds bruhahahaha
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starejša24. 11. 2021 20:34:58
>mitja belak : Just what of this will slowly become reality, and not just conspiracy theory. https://www.skrivnostisveta.si/zakaj-se-namerno-ustvarja-kaos/

The other day it struck me - of course banks can create any billion of any currency with a click, but no one can create electricity just with a click.
So I went to check who on the world level "produces" more energy than it uses itself, meaning who can sell it.
Very very interesting and for me completely unexpected. I recommend.
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Sargon24. 11. 2021 23:20:56
Japan - Indonesia - Slovenia
"In Japan they follow the measures and don't have such idiots as we do. With them a warning is enough, no need to back it up with law, they follow it anyway."
Whoever writes such epidemiological nonsense in three days, it applies to him: Who despises gets despised himself, the basis is the enemy's heel.

The goal of epidemiological measures is to limit the spread of infections and consequently hospitalizations and deaths. In Covid Worldometer you can see the infection spread curves for each country. The first curve, total confirmed cases, has an S shape. The flatter and smoother the curve, the more the epidemic is under control. The second curve, daily cases, has a bell shape. The more peaked, narrow and high this curve is, the more infections follow natural laws. The goal of restrictive measures is to flatten this curve.
You need to know this: data in worldometer are only a reflection of some pandemic, confirmed cases are only part of all infected, the more testing, the closer confirmed cases get to actual infections. Japan did 4 times fewer tests per million inhabitants than Slovenia.

If we compare the curves of Japan and Indonesia, especially in the last wave they have a similar course. Both disciplined Japan and relaxed Indonesia survived the last wave similarly. So the shape of the curve in the last wave is not a result of discipline. If Indonesia had the last wave, for Japan it's a question whether it happened to them too or they allowed it. Both countries introduced ivermectin for covid treatment.
Various explanations for such a course appear. It will probably turn out that the key is what German-American epidemiologist and biostatistician Knut Wittkowski said at the beginning of the pandemic (and was immediately buried in a landslide of criticism): a respiratory infection epidemic goes through the population and in 6 weeks it's all over. During this time vulnerable groups need protection, if everyone protects themselves, vulnerable have no advantage anymore.

If we look at the daily cases curve for Slovenia, we see that after introducing measures in autumn, the curve is distinctly flattened. Slovenes allowed themselves a little relaxation only for New Year. Comparison with all neighboring countries Italy, Austria, Hungary and Croatia shows that Slovenes followed measures the most. Even more than Danes or Irish or Portuguese. Of course the question is at what infection height to start restricting - dr. Beović said they missed it? For such behavior Slovenes got no praise, quite the opposite they were blamed for chaos in nursing homes and hospitals, which are fully in state's domain. But if the state pokes into every hairdresser or gym, it lacks time for essential problems. For Slovenia it showed that people faithfully followed measures for a long time, infections didn't rise, but it didn't bring real results, moreover no lower mortality, we wasted directly 1 billion euros and lost 4 billion euros GDP. Regardless of all these blunders we boldly go forward, guilty will be the nation anyway.
But we do have many idiots e.g. young doctor running in the forest with a mask, or doctor horrified by open stove, while in one nursing home more covid patients lie than in all hospitals. But dr. Dušan Keber wrote in Delo's Saturday supplement 6.11.: Citizens contributed the most, who in fear of unknown disease behaved very self-protectively.
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pantani125. 11. 2021 07:24:36
Agree Sargon. Just yesterday, when returning from Toški by road, I spot silhouette of cyclist with mask on face (who was in Toški knows the hill is very steep in places)! Are some really that scared, or are they... eekeekeek
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Becar25. 11. 2021 08:08:18
Pantani, if the cow said masks don't affect breathing. Just trust the cow, nothing else velik nasmeh

If you think it's harder to breathe through a mask, it's just psychological block from FB doctors who have no clue. mežikanje
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kekec6225. 11. 2021 12:33:44
Sargon: forgery of documents, fake vaccination, someone else gets vaccinated instead of us, doctors giving false certificates, that's babbling in three days according to your opinion.
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kekec6225. 11. 2021 12:36:32
Becar: two people are not the same, my sister and brother-in-law had heavier course of disease, nephew didn't even sneeze and didn't know he was infected.
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pantani125. 11. 2021 13:09:11
They had two years' time, did nothing for capacities, such are most common comments. Slovenia has enough hospital beds per capita, allegedly even too many, so former minister with support of external collaborator wanted to close some, they wanted to abolish individual ambulance stations especially in smaller places, but experts said no, because for example ambulance from Kamnik can reach patient faster than from Ljubljana. But Slovenia really lacks certain medical specialists for years. There were cases delaying routine operations due to lack of anesthesiologists or remember import of Croatian doctors to UKCM for help. We have severe shortage of medical staff, which doesn't show so bad in normal conditions, but when suddenly more patients need same care, the misery of our public health shows. But these problems can't be solved in one or two years, need at least 10 years for all responsible to air out our needs, i.e. which diseases will need most health care. As we know bed without medical staff is just a bed.
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zavest25. 11. 2021 15:15:19
Why don't anti-vaxxers lock bikes?
Because they heard about the neighbor of the cousin's wife whose locked bike was stolen velik nasmeh
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Becar25. 11. 2021 15:59:12
Jurček, soon you can take a 5-year-old child to vaccinate, even by bike if you want. And on EMA recommendation.


https://www.24ur.com/novice/korona/ema-priporocila-uporabo-pfizerjevega-cepiva-za-otroke-od-5-do-11-leta.html
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UB7725. 11. 2021 16:45:02
For the same reason they don't use winter tires in winter. From "independent media" it's evident that most winter traffic accidents happen precisely with winter tires and all is just propaganda and enrichment of tire lobbies. Verified from conversation with one who works in a big tire firm!velik nasmeh
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kekec6225. 11. 2021 17:12:30
This is not a joke, this is all true.
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Aljoman25. 11. 2021 18:08:10
Uff, old stuff that you vaxxers have only now realized velik nasmeh
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zavest25. 11. 2021 18:20:24
@UB77, totally true! Uncle of colleague's aunt was wondering the other day during smoke break "how winter knows when it's Nov 15" and especially how virus geographically hits "coastal area where you can drive summer tires all year" zmeden

Meanwhile in facebook circles it's said that this weekend is the first big meeting of summer tire lovers club.
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Becar25. 11. 2021 19:40:12
Well, when something like this happens, Poklukar tells you, vaccination is not mandatory.


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kekec6225. 11. 2021 19:58:15
Ha,ha,ha:velik nasmeh
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kekec6225. 11. 2021 20:00:02
That's epilepsy, or božjast colloquially, and has nothing to do with vaccination.
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Becar26. 11. 2021 07:07:33
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