Definition of an alpinist
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| Tadej15. 07. 2014 17:07:10 |
Continuation of the topic on the definition of an alpinist...
The beginning refers to the post:
"natynat004
13.7.2014 Hi, I'm interested if the Italian ferrata path and lakes are really open? Because this weekend if the weather holds we're heading there .. Thanks for the answer!!!
If it's not open does anyone know some ferrata nearby that's nice and quite exposed and long ?? thanks and greetings to all alpinists!!!!"
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| Branee14. 07. 2014 08:31:47 |
I dunno what alpinists have to do with ferratas nataynat004 
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| sla14. 07. 2014 08:45:23 |
Sometimes they use one for descent
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| madHack15. 07. 2014 11:42:45 |
But why not use a ferrata and greet alpinists?! :P 
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| redbull15. 07. 2014 12:53:05 |
this one is good: ferratas and alpinists
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| Sujcic15. 07. 2014 15:05:51 |
Can't you see that the one asking, natynat004, is a foreigner and not at home in Slovenian. What are you like!?
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| Žiga2215. 07. 2014 15:13:17 |
Even abroad the term "alpinist" has the same meaning as with us and doesn't differ.
Let's call a spade a spade and not pull faces childishly every time someone reasonably sh.....
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| Sujcic15. 07. 2014 15:29:46 |
In most dictionaries there is no such distinction
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| Žiga2215. 07. 2014 15:36:40 |
And what connection does that have?
On this forum discussion is primarily in Slovenian. If someone writes in some mangled mix between Slovenian, Croatian and English, then I really don't feel obliged to guess what the person meant by the word "alpinist".
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| franca15. 07. 2014 15:45:14 |
A number of posts are supposed to be in Slovenian, but they are far from it. And I really don't know why anyone in the "Mangart" topic should ask what or who someone meant by the designation alpinist.
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| Žiga2215. 07. 2014 15:54:57 |
Sorry franca, but when on a mountaineering forum it's about mountaineering terms and labels, I think it's important we're precise and consistent about it, otherwise it's just confusion. In this case not really, but still for someone who hauls themselves up ferratas to call himself alpinist is practically an insult to all real alpinists.
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| Bandzo15. 07. 2014 15:58:53 |
A real alpinist keeps his thoughts to himself and goes to the mountains and doesn't write about the definition of alpinism, since he already knows what it means to be an alpinist. Now back to Mangart, okay?
LP,
Ben
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| Žiga2215. 07. 2014 16:00:54 |
NO!!
A real alpinist will strive for the development of alpinism, for respecting ethics, ascent rules, safety and everything that belongs to it. Above all he won't be passive and quiet when (crudely said) someone shits on this respected activity!!! 
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| Bandzo15. 07. 2014 16:03:51 |
No one shat, žiga22. We're in the internet age where you have all info at hand. And if someone writes wrong definition it just means they're uneducated or don't wish to educate on the topic. Everyone has right to correct and point out mistake someone makes, but here it turns into shitfight more and more, mildly said, for nothing. Develop alpinism and expertise with interested people. You don't do that on forum and if you think you do you're naive.
Best regards!
Ben
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| franca15. 07. 2014 16:05:06 |
if in this: "thanks and greetings to all alpinists !!!!" you see some bullshit, may God have mercy on you
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| Žiga2215. 07. 2014 16:06:13 |
@Ben
Exactly that!
And since alpinism falls under the discipline of mountaineering (which is also this topic), I think it's right to clarify the terms before they get totally blurred.
As you wrote, we live in the internet age and information is at hand - so no excuses for being uninformed.
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| slavi090215. 07. 2014 17:18:41 |
Do you really have to argue almost in every topic if someone writes something "wrong", or rather the one who reads something that should be "wrong" imagines it differently, many mountaineers, alpinists, and also ferrata lovers read these topics, and I think they don't deserve such fights up here...... nice mountaineering-ferrata greeting
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| ljubitelj gora15. 07. 2014 18:31:56 |
We are all the same, we all love mountains.
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| Busterman15. 07. 2014 20:10:42 |
Eh, well, no one is shitting on anyone. Otherwise, even in the media they write "alpinist" whenever someone falls while climbing in the hills, and I'm pretty sure most aren't those "real" registered ones with passed exam and positive ongoing categorization at KA. Or maybe the definition is different than I thought...
Otherwise, all who venture into mountains strive for the nicest contact with them and even if someone "wrongly self-defines", the basis of their doing is the same.
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| zippo15. 07. 2014 20:15:21 |
Quite the opposite. When someone gets stuck in a wall, it writes they rescued a mountaineer
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| ljubitelj gora15. 07. 2014 21:00:57 |
Alpinists climb ---> IV and more, hikers to III degree.
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