Equipment for via ferrata routes
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| Tatana15. 05. 2013 18:35:46 |
I searched the forum for some similar topic, but unfortunately without success...
Soon I plan to buy a climbing harness, via ferrata set, helmet and that rope for resting on the wall (don't know what it's called).
Since I don't know much about it, could someone advise what makes most sense to buy (of course as high quality and affordable as possible) and where. How much does it all cost? I figured around 200-250€? Seems to me if I go to a store, they won't advise the most sensibly, so I'll be glad for any suggestion.
Thanks 
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| Tatana15. 05. 2013 20:05:57 |
#jedriličar thanks. I know much of this already. I have some little experience too, but always rented gear. I looked at kibuba too, but I had in mind if some brand particularly (not) recommended or what to watch for when buying, where best to buy...
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| Zebdi15. 05. 2013 20:11:59 |
Tatana, you'll get the cheapest deal if you wait for a sale at Iglu Šport or Kibuba. Lately there've been quite a few recalls of via ferrata sets, but as far as I know, they've sorted the issues now. For harness and helmet, try as many models as possible and take what's most comfortable for you.
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| jax15. 05. 2013 23:33:01 |
Given that I don't know much, could someone advise what makes most sense to buy (of course as high quality and affordable as possible) and where. How much does it all cost in total? I figured around 200-250€? It seems to me that if I go to a store, they won't know how to advise most sensibly, so I'll be glad for any suggestion.
Thanks
Regarding shops, I'd still suggest that you visit one of the Iglus when possible. They're not the only ones, but they have the nice feature that there are quite a few around Slovenia, and sellers mostly know at least a bit about the matters, so you'll probably get some useful advice.
As for prices, your estimate is quite all right, even a bit high. The via ferrata set starts from about 65 euros up, helmet from 40 up, harness - I haven't bought one in a long time, but I see that from 50 up you can get something. So yes, even for 150 you could put something together.
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| Tatana16. 05. 2013 08:58:32 |
Great, thanks for suggestions and advice. I noticed myself that prices vary a lot. Wondering if with this gear too, like many products, lower price means lower quality? For something that should protect my life, I wouldn't look at every euro, quality is more important...
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| Becar16. 05. 2013 11:03:03 |
With via ferrata sets and helmets it's hard to say if quality is linearly dependent on price. Simple reason: practically no feedback data if a 150 EUR set is safer than a 100 EUR one. If there were many accidents where the set fails, quality analysis would be quick. So far heard only one fatal abroad due to bad set. No one can say another set would prevent it, since no one knows exact circumstances. Or put differently, under certain conditions even 500 EUR set will rip.
If I were buying, I'd watch published recall lists, suspiciously low prices and made in China labels.
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| jax16. 05. 2013 11:43:07 |
Here's the thing: all gear you get in shops is CE certified. So you can't buy the worst crap. If talking specialized mountaineering shops (Iglu, Kibuba etc.), even better - no "fake" brands there. Mammut, Camp, Petzl, Black Diamond... All serious respected companies worth trusting to some extent. So I think with via ferrata set there's no special safety dependence on price. Sets differ in karabiner shape, ease of handling, elastic/non-elastic straps etc. But that's more convenience than safety.
Similar with harnesses - none will rip for sure, but good to buy one that fits you approximately well.
Helmet - I tell everyone basic Camp Rockstar is totally fine. Maybe you won't feel good in it.
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| Tatana16. 05. 2013 14:06:24 |
OK, things are a bit clearer now, thanks. Just wait for birthday and shopping
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| jedriličar16. 05. 2013 17:53:47 |
Hope your birthday isn't in December 
And watch out when buying, often seen known brands (won't list them) with made in vietnam label, I avoid those....
if I pay 100 EUR for something, I want it made in Switzerland or France
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| Tatana16. 05. 2013 21:55:31 |
#jedriličar, no, not in December, it's tomorrow
Thanks for warnings, will be careful...
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| Keko16. 05. 2013 23:21:19 |
Regarding quality vs price, I'd point out that higher price often means not better quality but less weight. If you take two helmets from the same maker, you'll see the more expensive is almost surely lighter than cheaper one, made of lighter materials, but that doesn't mean better quality. Often more robust thing lasts longer. Same story with safety sets, karabiners, ropes and other gear for mountaineering and alpinism.
That famous saying "little money, little music" could be changed to "little money, lots of weight"
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| jedriličar17. 05. 2013 07:50:49 |
@tatana: then happy xx birthday to you, and now quickly go shopping ....
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| lubadar17. 05. 2013 13:02:16 |
@Tatana all the best for your birthday, whichever it is , and good luck using the gear....
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| slavi090217. 05. 2013 19:33:31 |
@Tatana... also from me all the best, and lots of enjoyment on ferratas
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| zico1012. 06. 2013 16:09:46 |
Nice greeting!
Recently I started venturing into our beautiful mountains a bit more seriously. I began with easier hikes, now I went on a climbing trail to Peca and Raduha. In the near future I plan to go to some climbing trail, a bit more demanding, so I need advice on equipment.
Those who know please advise what helmet and what self-belay kit would suit me best so the ratio between my needs and price is best matched. Namely I won't be doing extreme climbing (too demanding equipment)...
If you advise with a store or links I'd be even happier.
Thanks for advice, excellent regards
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| mukica12. 06. 2013 17:53:30 |
Currently at Iglu spot there's a very solid Mammut helmet for 35e and self-belay kits are discounted...check their website...
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| ljubitelj gora12. 06. 2013 20:53:27 |
Best to go to Kibuba for gear they have everything, can order online too:
Helmet, harness, self.kit, ferrata gloves,
This is what I have:
http://www.kibuba.com/Plezalna-oprema/Samovarovanje/Samovarovalni-kompleti?pID=2078
Harness is this one: Be careful not to take one for sport climbing !!! (say this NO http://www.kibuba.com/Plezalna-oprema/Plezalni-pasovi/Spodnji?pID=2984
This is for ferratas, alpinism.
http://www.kibuba.com/Plezalna-oprema/Plezalni-pasovi/Spodnji?pID=4121
Helmet: Why this one, because it's better than others. There was news of injured alpinist who had this helmet, but you can easily take the cheaper one too.
http://www.kibuba.com/Plezalna-oprema/Celade/Odrasle?pID=2211
These are crap !!! These will fall apart after 2-3 ferratas, take/find something else.
http://www.kibuba.com/Kape-in-rokavice/Rokavice/Via-ferrata?pID=3141&q=ferrata%20rokavice
Gear isn't cheap, but if you look for cheapest stuff you might regret later, at least with self.kit, I'm very satisfied with this one on the link, haven't used it in Slovenia yet, but on Monte Coglians, Cjajnik, Via della Vita on Mangart I went ferrata without it just with helmet, but it was stupid idea.
Always building pyramid, so I know myself, limits.
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| zico1012. 06. 2013 22:20:18 |
thanks to both for detailed answers. money is no issue for sure, since I've decided to get to know our mountains a bit better, but I don't want to buy such gear that I wouldn't need on my ascents or is meant for alpinists or hikers on very very demanding tours, since I won't be doing those... but every info is very important to me since I'm a layman in this field and happy for comments from anyone with experience with gear.
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