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From Robanov Kot over Črni Hriber to Krofička

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Guest12. 08. 2007 15:25:30
Has anyone already gone along the above-mentioned shepherd's path (pathless)? Orientationally the most difficult is supposed to be the start of the path, which doesn't exist at all! nasmeh But I didn't have trouble finding it. I think I chose the wrong path at the junction, in my opinion the one that leads to Utam. And I couldn't follow even that one for long. If anyone has already walked the mentioned path in full, please advise me.

Best regards
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Guest12. 08. 2007 21:10:53
If you took the wrong path at the junction, then you were maybe completely wrong (left path into deep gully?) ... zmeden
At the 'junction' for Krofička summit or for bivouac under Utami there's no path at all! Both are more pathless passages ... well, followable ... nasmeh
Hard to describe ...
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geppo19. 05. 2012 21:40:14
Črni Hriber - Travniki - Ute - Strelovec («drapr» + «geppo»)

My long wish to try to find this «path» came true today. We were internet acquaintances who met in person for the first time today. We had been planning this for quite some time (waiting for the weather and for both to be free).
Once «Volk» wrote to me (For me definitely the most beautiful over Črni Hriber - a masterpiece and then some, unfortunately relentlessly overgrowing). This kept nagging at me and when I read how you descended here with your wife, it attracted me even more…
Really a masterpiece, at times hard to follow, steep, but not too difficult for climbing (doesn't exceed «one»). We maybe cut a «two» at two places - but we were to blame ourselves, because we went a bit our own way at the entry…
Without special difficulties and searching we reached Travnik, Ut, snacked on the grassy ledge with a beautiful view and descended to the «Kingdom of Roban's shepherd». Tried Fuksovo/Koroščevo lock. The guys have it cleaned to «0»!! Towards Strelovec we sank into inflated snow almost to….
Walked Strelovec, visited Knez and descended to the starting point (Robani), refreshed with cold water, at Govc with beer.
Regards
The wall awaiting us.1
Rocky terrain, forest, steep grass slopes alternate along the entire path.2
Where to now?3
Wild wonderful world...4
On the way5
steep Travnik6
View...7
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Crossing in deep snow9
View back from the Strelovec ridge10
Refreshment at Knez11
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Volk19. 05. 2012 22:12:39
Bravo, Geppo + Drapr. Beautiful, right?
The master was Roban's shepherd who led it over wild steeps.

Regards.
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geppo19. 05. 2012 23:04:49
We remembered your wife's comment on the descent. «You, this is not for 'normal' people!» . nasmeh and to Navihanga, Gorazd... and more...
Great trip today, pure ten!!!
regards
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Navihan19. 05. 2012 23:42:20
Great trip, but the detour to the top of Krofička wasn't feasible, I see there's still a lot of snow in Vratna gully. Congratulations!
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geppo20. 05. 2012 07:23:13
The detour to Krofička summit will be for another time. We checked it out a bit... well, we'll have to repeat this path! Then the meadows will be green, full of flowers...
regards
Due to the steepness we quickly gain elevation.1
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dprapr20. 05. 2012 10:33:49
A few more shots from yesterday's wandering on Roban's shepherd paths.
Morning in Robanov kot.1
The curious ones.2
Beautiful views.3
We are already close to the meadows.4
Towards Raduha.5
Does anyone know the name of this tower?6
On the meadows.7
It's nice up here.8
Praise to those who have preserved the shepherd's hut.9
It requires very little to exist.10
It's still coming.11
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Volk20. 05. 2012 13:54:40
Really ideal weather, and photos to relive memories ... nasmeh
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irska23. 09. 2012 20:52:38
Over Črni hriber or along it, to the shepherd's hut below Utami we came from Roban. At Robanova planina we imagined what that "triangle" mentioned in the book might be, and somehow along it to the left, above it a bit to the right, then found the path, lost it again, and ... really almost impossible to explain nasmeh. Anyway, the path is beautiful and wild, full of ... everything; grass, rocks, scree, boars, chamois, snakes ... everything there is )). But we started a bit late, so from the hut we hurried towards Strelovec, but skipped that too, and went straight down Špilak. Haven't been so happy about macadam road for a long time as yesterday around 20h.
Looks quite steep... and it is ;)1
Little path that you first choose yourself, then sense the path of predecessors :)2
Little spring under Travnik.3
Crowd on the other side ;)4
5-star hotel from outside and inside ;)5
From 5-star hotel towards Strelovec or Molznik.6
Directly down Špilak.7
Even the camera knows that night is falling ;)8
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dprapr23. 09. 2012 22:32:00
The triangle is probably what's on @geppo's first photo. We also went along the left side in the gully, but didn't go to the end along the triangle's side, instead found a rocky passage (chamois trail) further left, then higher a bit right and above the triangle found the pathlet.
Further we followed the path, as @geppo already wrote, without trouble to Travniki.
Most likely the pathlet starts at the right side of the triangle! Will need to check again.
Regards and congrats on the ascent!
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Volk23. 09. 2012 23:01:44
Dprapr, exactly. The path actually starts on the right side of the 'triangle' with cut marks, but it can also be done on the left (as written in the guidebook). But it really is time to check out this restored masterpiece. nasmeh

Regards.
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medo*23. 09. 2012 23:03:22
Yes, the right triangular peak is on the first Geppo's photo. On the left you have to go along the wide gully to the top of that peak, to the saddle where there is a characteristic rock. Opposite this peak the path starts. I join the congratulations nasmeh mežikanje
Summit of the triangular rise and characteristic upright rock next to the tree.1
Start of the trail at the saddle, opposite the peak.2
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irska24. 09. 2012 07:10:05
Thanks likewise @dprapr ... and @medo* nasmehmežikanje
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geppo24. 09. 2012 15:14:42
Congratulations medo*
I see the trough is restored. At the end of June I still dug a hole under the old one to drink ice-cold water. Nice that someone else goes on this hidden path so it won't overgrow completely.
Regards.
old riverbed1
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dprapr4. 10. 2013 19:28:03
Today with Jovan Cukut I spent a beautiful day above the sea of fog above Robanov kot. We ascended to Krofičko over Črni hriber and descended via Ut and Strelovec to the valley.
Indeed, the beautiful autumn days in the mountains are starting!
Acrobatics on the path over Črni hriber.1
In the magical misty belt.2
Towards Travniki.3
Autumn panorama.4
Peca and Raduha.5
Above the sea of fog over Robanov kot.6
Beautiful bouquet of edelweiss in October.7
Yes, it's nicer with fog.8
Just above the fog.9
...10
Towards the summit of Krofička.11
From Krofička.12
Summit.13
Magical area below the Utami.14
Traverse towards Strelovec.15
It's still green.16
Where did they come from?17
Remnants of the fog.18
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geppo4. 10. 2013 20:18:28
I hope to repeat next year. This is really for gourmets...KSA
I'm envious ....jezen
regards
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dprapr4. 10. 2013 21:26:27
Zlatko, this tour wasn't actually planned - but down there it just carries you in that direction. I had to check how it is on the right side of the triangle and up towards the top. If you repeat, I'm in!
Regards
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Jovan Cukut5. 10. 2013 20:41:18
Hey guys, I hope I'll be there too and someone else.
Also my view of yesterday's nice circular tour on the link below.

https://picasaweb.google.com/113805105178377351223/IzRobanovegaKotaCezCrniHriberInTravnikNaKrofickoTravnikUteMovznikInStrelovec0402#
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ziki6. 04. 2014 14:43:35
Dear sir. In your description of the path from Robanov kot over Črni hriber to Krofičko I found some names that locals have never heard of. For example OLTAR above Utami is KONj to us. Behind it viewed from the hut at utah to the west are Covnikovi travniki. Definitely not TRAVNIK where you wrote it. I've never heard of ROBANOV VRH either, and I've been walking these Solčava pathless areas for 60 years. Don't change field names in our areas (and elsewhere too.) Let me give you well-intentioned advice. If you're in a foreign place, follow a good foreign proverb that says "READ THE MAP AND ASK THE PEASANT" Best regards from Janez Slapnik from Solčava-
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Jovan Cukut8. 04. 2014 08:36:09
OK, Janez, I'll follow your advice "READ THE MAP AND ASK THE PEASANT". Next time only names marked on maps on photos. Someone told me Konj is Oltar, fine, let it be Konj now, I didn't name Covnikove travnike anywhere, on my new map they are marked as Travnik, a bit further towards Škrbina Zadnji Travnik. In the new KSA guide it says the next peak after Krofička is called Travnik not Ute, so I marked it that way on the photo. Regarding Križevnik: famous alpinist and guidebook writer Milenko Arnejšek - Prle: Grebeni slovenskih gora, title on page 44: KRIŽEVNIK - VELIKI (Robanov) VRH. Exactly so, everything else is unimportant. That Križevnik is also called Robanov vrh, some 'peasant' from Robanov or another kot probably told Prle. Anyway, we can together, also 'geppo' and 'dprapr', repeat the upper tour and say something more about names on its ascent.

Best regards also from Jovan Cukut from Ljubljana.
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