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Gontarska planina, Veliki Babnik and Tošč

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julika4. 03. 2019 13:49:29
Straight ahead to Tošč... If you go further, after 12 minutes you'd leave the steep section, where the little path branches again to Tošč and to Govejek, where a nice gentle path runs
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zlatica4. 03. 2019 14:38:03
oh, julika, thanks for that info. It'll come in handy for another time. Bestvelik nasmeh
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ločanka14. 02. 2020 06:41:56
Up various ridges to Veliki Babnik summit many times already, but through Beli potok valley yesterday for the first time.
We were so enthusiastic about this path that we repeated it 2x, up and down. And the views are different each time, in different colors, different feeling.

During the hike I was also looking for passages into the real Beli potok canyon, that loose sandy part that's tempted me for long. I think I found itnasmeh and that'll be yippee. No lack of exploring here, full of overgrown ridges, hidden corners.

On the whole hike we met no one, just peace and quiet.
I'll come back here.
* OPOZORILO! Opisan grebenski pristop poteka preko zasebnega dvorišča, kjer prehod ni dovoljen!
you cross the stream several times, but it's never difficult1
also here2
sand deposits, here you can go all the way to the waterfalls3
View higher up4
through the overgrown terrain5
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to the other side, towards the path from the Omejca farm7
Once upon a time8
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I looked around at these beautiful, sprawling pines10
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ridge towards V. Babnik12
Sv. Jakob, view back13
ascent along the nice sandy path14
various colors15
like some Japanese gardens16
towards the marker and sign17
Julian Alps up close, from Debeleg vrh to Kanjavec18
above Kozjek19
first time I see the summit of V. Babnik marked like this20
View also from the other side21
this we call spring22
view towards St. Ožbolt23
and Porezen behind it yesterday24
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GITA14. 02. 2020 07:36:39
Bravo, bravo, I've been waiting just for you to tackle this path, so I can repeat it then and get some tip... mežikanjevelik nasmeh The pics are beautiful and so inviting, I'll probably be on these paths soon... nasmeh
* OPOZORILO! Omenjena pot poteka preko zasebnega dvorišča, kjer prehod ni dovoljen!
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ločanka18. 02. 2020 08:01:32
On Sunday it was my lucky daynasmeh. It's been eight years since viharnik posted here the wildest approach to Veliki Babnik through the clogged Beli potok canyon. Ever since that path has tempted me, stirred my imagination; curiosity and desire to explore this approach have grown. Practically no info on it, no descriptions. All I managed to learn about it was herenasmeh. So thanks viharnik. A couple days ago I did find a little path through this valley, but that wasn't it, not the sandy canyon I so wanted to visit.

So we drove to Ločnica wanting to uncover this secret. Already at the canyon entrance you realize you've entered a world where the human foot rarely steps, filling you with respect. Steep, wild world of sandy nature, fallen trees, where you freely choose where to step, where to climb. No path here, all one big pathless terrain. We found only two old human traces, one wooden plank on a tree that viharnik mentioned, and one stone barrier we crossed, but then faced a bigger natural one.

The canyon is surrounded by ridges you must climb to leave it. We chose the left one, which seemed more approachable. On the ridge we tracked a path that's there and isn't, but leads through pines, over rocky steps, from where you again admire the canyon view. So you're rewarded twice, walking through it and gazing at it from above. On the opposite ridge we spotted a herd of chamois that fled further, and low-flying birds over the canyon in the air.

Beautiful world that fills your soul and heart and you feel joy that you got to see into it and know this world really exists there and now you know the way innasmeh.

* OPOZORILO! Opisan pristop na Veliki Babnik poteka preko zasebnega dvorišča, kjer prehod ni dovoljen!
When you enter the canyon.1
The enthusiasm for what I saw drove me on.2
Along the path3
In reality, it's steeper.4
End of the green ledge mentioned by viharnik.5
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You have to go towards the left ridge to get out of the canyon.7
He wanted to convince me that we would have to descend here, but I resisted.8
Persuasion.9
A bit more exploring from the other gully, this is human-made work.10
View to the right.11
Sandy barrier.12
That's why up there.13
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On the ridge15
Chamois ran across here.16
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At the edge of the canyon.19
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View into the canyon from the top, edge of the ridge.21
like this, if you look a bit higher22
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already on the right ridge24
something new on this path25
view from the bench26
view towards Grmada27
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Sunday view towards Triglav, zoomed in of course29
further towards Govejku30
you also have to step onto this edge31
my humble self32
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GITA1. 03. 2020 17:53:30
The above post by @ločanka felt like a "call". Like an invitation you can't refuse and I really could hardly wait for us to go…

Friday, when the wind swept the hills, seemed just the right day to head out exploring into the shelter of the Beli potok canyon. Everything @ločanka and @viharnik wrote and photographed, we looked at and read several times, but it wasn't enough to guess what immense wilderness we'd get into. When you're there, suddenly everything's different and of other dimensions than viewing pics from the couch mežikanjenasmeh. The key part is the exit to the ridge. No trodden variant found, so a bit our own way… We also turned back once, but that's the charm of pathless terrain… nasmeh
* OPOZORILO! Opisan pristop skozi kanjon Belega potoka poteka preko zasebnega dvorišča, kjer prehod ni dovoljen!
By the stream...1
Picturesque...2
We cross the stream several times. No difficulties anywhere...3
Sensing the wilderness...4
Entry into the gully...5
Primeval, without traces...6
Following Viharnik's hint, we cling to the green ledge...in the middle between the left and right gully...7
View back...8
...and further...9
Here we decide for the exit to the ridge...10
Continuation...11
...and further...12
Fighter...13
This one won't give in...14
Through the branches we catch a view towards Jakob... (zoomed)15
Once again towards Jakob a bit higher...16
Comfortable continuation...17
View into the canyon...18
...and the upper part of the canyon with a view...19
Picturesque...20
From here on, pure comfort...21
...and a soft path...22
Along the way among bare treetops we seek views...23
...towards Storžič...24
Really beautiful...25
With less wind we might even sit down...26
Spring along the path...27
This is already familiar...28
Summit of Veliki Babnik now marked with a cairn...29
On the shady side of the ridge still some snow dust...30
From Iga a closer view towards Triglav...31
Pleasantly warm on the path below Gontarska planina towards Govejek...32
When sunbeams catch in the flower...33
View right above the hut at Govejek...34
During descent we also stepped onto this little ridge opposite Mickina hut...35
...for the last views before turning back to the valley... :-)36
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ločanka1. 03. 2020 20:27:42
Wonderful GITA! Maybe we'll meet there again sometimenasmeh.
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GITA1. 03. 2020 21:51:55
Thanks, ločanka. Hoping for meetings, really... Would be fun to discover and explore this wilderness together... nasmeh
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ločanka2. 03. 2020 05:52:07
GITA, nasmehnasmeh
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trdi5. 03. 2021 18:25:02
To Veliki Babnik then over Gontarska planina to Osolnik and back across Govejek. Nice.
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GITA14. 03. 2021 16:41:11
There are several ridge variants, the most "orthodox" ridge (i.e. right along the ridge all the time) has exactly that start as you assumed. The initial forest section is more or less pathless. In between you just cross one new logging trail, later you reach a cross path which you just cross and stick to the ridge. The higher you go, the nicer, more visible and trodden the path is. On Wednesday morning (10.3.) we were again a bit more hurriedly and briefly in this area. We didn't intend to go right to Veliki Babnik, but just explore that cross trail that looks so nice and tempting... more under photos... For Polhograjci it's worth taking time. We go multiple times, just so, without intent to step on any peak. That's actually even the nicest and most solitary. On Wednesday we met about fifteen chamois, no human though... velik nasmeh
* OPOZORILO! Omenjen grebenski pristop poteka preko zasebnega dvorišča, kjer prehod ni dovoljen!
Cross path that tempted us to the right this time...1
Encounter...2
Observation from a safe distance...3
At this letter we leave the cross path and head up yet another ridge...4
Ferns really beautify the hillsides at this time...5
...and the paths of course too...6
Beautiful contrast...7
Border between winter and spring...8
The path brings us to the ridge along which we would have climbed if we had followed it all the time and not deviated onto the cross path...9
We descend to the cross path and along it to the other side into the valley...10
It led us to the first sandy clearing in the Beli potok valley.11
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grega_p14. 03. 2021 20:39:07
Gita, thanks a lot for the vivid reply. The starting pics tell everything about access - it seemed to me I should go there. The ridge will wait for some nice spring day...
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palček plezalček21. 03. 2021 21:26:22
Two pinned sausages around Polhograjsko intersected at Veliki Babnik. First (pics 1-20) trodden, second (pics 21-34) more exploratory.
* OPOZORILO! Grebenski pristop na Veliki Babnik poteka preko zasebnega dvorišča, kjer prehod ni dovoljen!
Beli potok - second dune, where I go right1
Pleasant little path winds along the ridge2
View of the neighbouring ridge3
Pines, pines, dark pines like sentinels under the mountain across the stony clearing heavily, laboriously whisper.4
Towards Glavni5
Firs as far as the eye can see6
Here I go right7
Among firs towards Veliki Babnik summit8
Left Grmada, right Tošč, between Mali Tošč9
Igale10
Still some winter charm11
Gontarska Planina12
descent13
The only tricky spot is to descend to the road crossing the ridge, but the roots make good holds :)14
Left along the road some 10 m then right downhill15
Pine cones - like on firebreaks on Adriatic islands16
The cart track turns into a path again17
Through scree also downhill18
Rocky passage19
Before the end of the loop20
Beli potok - a bit further from the second dune21
The dell narrows22
Midday, yet still frozen23
The gullies fork, I save those on the left for winter24
Soon there will be no more water and sinkholes25
The heather reddens and slowly takes its leave26
The tree fell and new life sprouted on its weathered root tangle27
View back28
Top of the gully right on the white road and from there straight along the ridge to Veliki Babnik29
From Veliki Babnik descent along the side ridge towards SE30
Nice and only the first part slightly trampled; probably due to hunters31
Quite steep32
View back33
In memory of the printing house34
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grega_p28. 03. 2021 01:54:55
Hello,

wishing a peaceful resolution of the problem and to inform others on this forum, I forward the message on this topic and also my reply. Things resolve fastest in my opinion if they are transparent:


26.3.2021 19:11:04 Hello,

We noticed that several persons without owner's permission on private property unjustly photographed private property and published it on web networks.
We also noticed some violations of unauthorized parking and passage, causing damage to land and disturbing possession.

Legal basis:
Nature Conservation Act
Forests Act
Agricultural Land Act
Mountain Trails Act
Code of Obligations
Property Code
Penal Code

In recent years the number of hikers and cyclists on our private land, or right on the courtyard, has greatly increased and finally we found out why.
Individuals publish and share on the web exact locations where you were, which is silly but not illegal by itself.
Since the trails/pathless areas you walk/ride are not mountain/bike trails but private lands for which you didn't get passage permission, you may be in violation.
With your web publications you then entice other hikers/cyclists to violations!
We have nothing against enjoying nature and exploring hills, however that doesn't mean unlimited rights!

Our conditions are clear:
1. Walk/ride on marked categorized trails per legislation! There are practically none on our land, but we can provide where around they are.
2. Respect privacy and don't photo/film private lands and persons! Anonymized shots for own use are one thing, those for social networks and web another.
3. Anything already recorded/published without owner's/persons' consent shall be immediately deleted from web!
If disputed posts not deleted in 8 days, we will report to site admin and then competent institutions.

List of posts we want deleted (topic by viharnik 17.1.2009: http://www.hribi.net/trenutnerazmere.asp?slo=1&gorovjeid=5&id=1524 ):

viharnik
8.8.2010

viharnik
22.1.2012

viharnik
10.6.2012

pinkerton
11.6.2012

viharnik
11.6.2012

ločanka
12.3.2017

ločanka
12.4.2018

taja3
14.4.2018

ločanka
14.2.2020

GITA
14.2.2020

ločanka
18.2.2020

GITA
1.3.2020

ločanka
1.3.2020

grega_p
11.2.2021

GITA
14.3.2021

grega_p
14.3.2021

palček plezalček
21.3.2021

Thanks for understanding!

Best regards


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reply:

Hi, I understand your view. If you don't want hikers, maybe best to put a sign there that it's private land and passage not allowed. I would personally respect it no problem and take another path to the goal.

Personally I didn't step on your plot and didn't do the mentioned excursion, evident from post too. Even if I did, I couldn't know. So you'll resolve this easiest as mentioned above, cause otherwise it won't limit as humans are exploratory by nature and deletes alone won't help.

Also I'll put your post under this topic so all clear you don't want passage there. No problem, think hikers will respect and be informed this way.

Good luck and enjoy peace!
lp Grega
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zavest28. 03. 2021 08:26:54
Let some lawyer chime in and explain how it is with hiking on pathless terrain, harmless or free passage and publishing photos for non-commercial purposes if taken in public places.

Completely understandable that locals want peace and solitude, but unfortunately things have changed in recent years and more people come to previously rarely visited areas. Still some demands seem unreasonable or inconsistent with laws.

https://www.kgzs.si/novica/prost-prehod-cez-kmetijska-in-gozdna-zemljisca-2018-07-04
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grajfer28. 03. 2021 08:37:25
@grega_p, thanks for the comment. I agree with you, we'll arrange additional signs to make it clearer.


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ločanka6. 03. 2024 14:31:06
V.Babnik - Gontarska planina - Osolnik

Why go to Celje to view beautiful pink carpets at this time if there's an abundance of all that in Polhograjsko hribovjenasmeh. Yeah, I'll hold back a bit, too much promotion can sometimes harm as wellnasmeh.
we headed up here1
above us the cikovt, it has already returned2
we noticed several such signs yesterday3
morning views to the mountains4
beautiful little path5
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some also lie around7
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summit of Glavna, canyon below12
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it takes your breath away15
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we could admire them all along the path18
close-up view, in front sv. Ožbolt, behind Blegoš19
view to Triglav from the path20
it has grown tall21
upwards towards V. Babnik22
twins23
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now marked, something new25
birches always beautiful, leafy or not26
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ridge of Gontarska planina28
On the path towards Osolnik29
At Osolnik30
with a violet tinge31
again a birch32
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we passed Mickina house, now it is sold34
but still greet the former owners like this35
the little hill there is called Grič36
view towards Ločnica37
photo from near the parking lot38
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palček plezalček6. 03. 2024 15:47:03
Charmingly blooming. nasmeh
How do you manage to find sun in these gloomy days?
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ločanka7. 03. 2024 08:24:37
yes little one, you gotta go to Polhograjcinasmehnasmeh
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ločanka14. 03. 2024 16:37:28
Main - Veliki Babnik

Now is the right time to visit Polhograjci, as you won't miss the violet-pink combination of the ground enlivened by colorful crocuses too. In addition wonderful views of snow-covered mountains, small waterfalls of Beli Potok, beautiful paths, layered junipers, chamois.. Well, those I spotted only at home when I uploaded the photos to the computer.

Our path yesterday was completely circular, those are usually the nicest. First descent to the sands of Beli Potok, then nice slanted path that brings you to the ridge and that to an even nicer ridge. Admiring nature right along the whole path!
above the starting point1
motifs along the path2
towards Glavna, that's where we headed3
nice4
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view of Majčove strmine6
second sandy clearing, Beli potok flows through the middle7
waterfall opposite in three tiers8
he was probably fine9
along a nice slanting path10
back there runs the main ridge11
over there Grintovec in its white shine12
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close-up of Gontarska planina14
in the world of reeds15
all colourful16
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View back19
Planjava, Ojstrica20
admiration21
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towards Glavni23
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first seen sign25
on the opposite bank26
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happy when we spotted it28
V. Babnik29
Triglav above the starting point30
and a bit more meadow admiring31
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