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Hochalmspitze 3360 m

redbull28. 06. 2015 19:32:18

congratulations-nicely shown

Good luck!!!

mukica2. 08. 2015 08:16:06

Ascent to the queen of the High Tauern...Started the tour on the normal route, it's nicely secured and descended to the glacier. Invaluable feeling when you stand on top and watch the peaks bathed in sunlight nasmeh

traversed almost the entire ridge from Schneewinkelspitze 3016m to Hochalmsptize 3360m

leaving the summit towards the glacier to make a loop

Clearly visible crevasses on the glacier, formerly part of the path ran through it, now it is routed over the peaks.

Safe to cross the glacier without crampons.

View of the traversed glacier and the peak above it.

Schneewinkelspitze 3016, peak visited the previous day.

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Bojan_A2. 08. 2015 08:44:34

Bravo! If I got it right you went up via Detmolder Grat, down past Steinerene Mann?

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mukica2. 08. 2015 09:04:10

Yes Bojan, exactly like that. Checked on the map mežikanje

There's quite a lot of names unknown to me around there and I love mixing them up nasmeh

Maemi2. 08. 2015 09:50:27

Wonderful! Bravo mukica, really fantastic tour nasmeh

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mpp5. 08. 2015 17:34:23

Detmolder Grat > summit > Steinerene Männln

Difference in difficulty between one ridge and the other?
What is the difficulty of the whole tour compared say to Veliki Klek?

Detmolder Grat
http://www.bergsteigen.com/klettersteig/kaernten/ankogel-gruppe/detmolder-grat

Does Mašera describe up and down via Steinerene Männln?

mukica5. 08. 2015 18:11:34

Detmolder Grat is a well secured ridge, from first cable steep to summit, in between torn twice but no problem right where no belay needed. Steinerene Männln has some securing passages nicely routed, now over the spikes, where needed cable and stops before glacier, crossing to glacier currently no issue. Maybe crampons in morning, we two used only ice axe on descent as sun did its thing, but they were in backpack.
To me the tour was more varied and adrenaline than on Grossglockner. Both very nice and happy to repeat anytime nasmeh

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redbull5. 08. 2015 18:34:10

Depends how you tackle Veliki Klek. If go normal e.g. via Kodnitzkees glacier, Erheerzoghutte and to summit shouldn't be a problem. Compared to Triglav the upper part much easier to me. Another story is the path over Studdlgrat ridge, which is demanding. From Hochalmspitze summit to Steinernmannl practically a ridge walk compared to Studdlgrat.
Martina congrats once more, super done, especially in great weather.

Good luck

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mpp6. 08. 2015 07:22:48

Thanks for the additional clarifications.

If you went again, would you choose same direction or reverse?

IgorZlodej6. 08. 2015 07:46:12

Easier in reverse direction (up east, down west), at least for me. Otherwise nicest approach via central gully, of course when conditions right.
Read my description on first page mežikanje

mukica6. 08. 2015 11:28:26

I would now definitely choose the same direction, although we originally thought the reverse one, but the morning fog crossed our plans; we didn't know if we would manage the entry from the glacier, what the tracks from before were like... then we realized that the fog was welcome and the decision correct. As redbul said, the return from the summit to the glacier is a nice traverse over the spikes, enjoyment nasmeh

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PFranci10. 08. 2015 21:32:42

Yesterday we did the ascent in the same direction as @mukica some time ago. From the lower lake past the hut and Detmolder Grat route
to the summit, back via Steinerene Männln route
and past the hut to the valley.
For the ascent, except for the via ferrata set, no other gear is needed; on the descent back to the glacier, lots of snow has melted and winter gear is required because ice is showing. velik nasmeh

The tour is very nice, just the weather spoiled it a bit for us because the summit soon wrapped in fog. jezen

The path constantly runs over granite slabs

The back peak before it disappeared into the fog

Until now, I had only reached the summit on skis

On the ridge, views occasionally opened up

One day we should try the via ferrata by the waterfall too

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mukica11. 08. 2015 19:36:53

Congratulations to all PFranci, really nice tour, shame that fog chased you; it accompanied us from the hut for about 300m and stayed all day in the valley, while we two basked up top in the sun. nasmeh

Already after a week visible changes on the glacier. cool

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Lunca12. 08. 2015 12:09:32

How long did this tour take you, approximately?

PFranci12. 08. 2015 13:10:08

All together with breaks from car to car approximately 12 hours. nasmeh

mpp16. 08. 2015 21:35:11

report with ten days delay:
Both routes have changed so older descriptions don't match completely.

From Malte valley narrow steep sometimes bad asphalt to free parking at dam at 1660m. Especially last part unpleasant to avoid. Clutch suffers.

From parking to Gießener Hütte steep road with some shortcuts. Need to watch as no signs just lines and dots. Especially first junction right after pasture gate hidden in mud.

Detmolder Grat: Approach long in morning shade if start early practically to notch.
Via ferrata extended further along ridge no more long glacier traverse as on older maps. In upper part quite a few pegs broken.

summit: no summit book

Steinerene Männln: Via ferrata to glacier extended so more bare rock. Glacier now quite icy > crampons ice axe helmet...
Descent southern - hot

In good weather tour unique in fog must be quite awkward.

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redbull8. 10. 2015 15:54:16

Maybe someone knows when the barrier in Malta where road goes to Gossgrabn is lowered?
Last year I know it was already lowered 15.10.
Thanks
Best
Dejan

redbull12. 10. 2015 07:56:14

Saturday ascent to queen of high tours.
Weather quite pleasant, fog but not too thick with light snowfall. Windless.

Report:

http://deyangrm.blogspot.si/2015/10/kraljica-vendar-ne-skrlaticahochalmspit.html