Inner feelings or experiences of mountains
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| Tadej28. 11. 2009 14:03:42 |
Continuation of the topic on experiencing mountains.
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| sabina.727. 11. 2009 22:44:05 |
Nice photos, the nicest of course the mysterious duck. LP]]>
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| viharnik28. 11. 2009 08:19:29 |
Tomaž is now in good hands, which I also feel. Those who before death realize that they are part of God and are not mortal, ascend (realize) more easily and separate from lower vibrations. Later angels help him on the path, where he is rewarded before the creator, proportionally to spiritual awakening and his deeds on earth. If you become a spirit (which Tomaž achieved), you don't return to earth anymore - except by your own will (helping people on earth).
Tomaž in spiritual terms, by distancing himself from erroneous civilization, achieved a lot. Only then do you really start walking the true, real path, the path of inner growth. The state in the wall that he described as a feeling that he is not afraid to survive nor to die, tells me everything. This is the state of saints who after long meditations reached the same level (opening of the middle evolutionary center), where future and past recede, thoughts disappear (no emotions). Only your pure spirit and primal energy appear, which testifies to eternity, immortality, floating of the liberated spirit between reality and eternity. Then you just ARE, no more questions, desires, one with yourself, one with creation, fulfilled within. Only in such a pure state, when the spirit is freed from the ego, does God come to meet us and connect with us, help us, we are part of Him.]]>
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| mad matheuss28. 11. 2009 08:37:04 |
If the mod had done something yesterday about Viharnik's continuous outbursts, it would be too late. Religious and political topics should stay on forums dedicated to that. Unless the mod thinks otherwise...
No hard feelings and best regards!]]>
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| bronkobil28. 11. 2009 11:17:18 |
What's with the whining, madonna. Better show some tolerance - we all have to do it sometime. From someone kindly describing how their chakras open when going to Mojstrovka, no harm to anyone. No need to take it seriously if you don't like it.
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| mad matheuss28. 11. 2009 11:46:10 |
It's about warning, not whining. Internet forums do have their rules. One of them is off-topic - on-topic rule, summarized by the topic title where we add our post. Otherwise I can add some of my well-meaning gardening tips to this thread. I was thinking about that during my last ascent to Mojstrovka. Maybe say something about tractors and motorbikes, just like that, all over the place?
We've all shown "some tolerance" so far while silently reading, because this isn't exactly viharnik's first off-topic post. That's why I think the warning is in place. If I want to learn about his field, I'll visit another forum, open a book... We don't need to be constantly assaulted with your religious beliefs in a thread about current conditions on the mountain. But I don't take this seriously at all
Since this debate is clearly off-topic, the moderator can delete everything related to it without hesitation.
Best regards!
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| bronkobil28. 11. 2009 12:17:22 |
The problem is that you think viharnik is taking some special rights to post off-topic. (comparison to gardening, motorbikes)
Regardless of silently following his previous posts, you somehow failed to grasp how viharnik himself connects mountains with his perception of spirituality. (and sometimes describes it).
Personally, your warnings annoy me much more than viharnik's posts. I don't care what you think is off-topic and what not...
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| mad matheuss28. 11. 2009 12:27:38 |
On this forum, in my opinion, we should contribute our opinions and photos about current conditions in the mountains.
What is off-topic and what is not is the domain of the forum admin, moderator. He sets the rules. So dear moderator, it's up to you to explain the rules of this forum.
This warning (which annoys you) wouldn't exist if there weren't viharnik's off-topic posts 
Best regards!
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| mad matheuss28. 11. 2009 12:27:38 |
On this forum, in my opinion, we should contribute our opinions and photos about current conditions in the mountains.
What is off-topic and what is not is the domain of the forum admin, moderator. He sets the rules. So dear moderator, it's up to you to explain the rules of this forum.
This warning (which annoys you) wouldn't exist if there weren't viharnik's off-topic posts
Best regards!
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| janik28. 11. 2009 12:28:46 |
Personally, I don't support any side, but my opinion is that you read what interests you and skip what doesn't, just like you set the TV or radio channel that suits you.
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| mad matheuss28. 11. 2009 12:33:43 |
After all, janik is right. I've been "skipping" for a while I miss an ignore button (updated forum).
But it's right to warn and develop a harmless debate on this topic.
LP!
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| Pujska28. 11. 2009 12:34:08 |
It's hard when it's raining and we can't go to the mountains so we occupy ourselves with nonsense...
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| mad matheuss28. 11. 2009 12:35:32 |
Yeah yeah the weather is just right hahaha!
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| viharnik28. 11. 2009 12:54:36 |
Don't argue over nothing. I couldn't describe the question in one sentence and apologize for writing more. Whoever thinks that without the essence of spirituality in us and a special state of consciousness, one can climb the highest walls of this world and even less demanding ones, is quite mistaken. Mountains Indians and Nepalese have been explaining since ancient times as the world of Gods. Whoever tries unclean will be destroyed. Only few survive. Kailash mountain or Mt. Meru is even forbidden for alpinism because it's a holy mountain abode of Shiva. Anyway, for me mountains are not just a polygon where I'll sweat, but primarily a space where my spirit can fully express and harmonize on the level from which it came. I warmly recommend the booklet Reinhold Stecher-Message of the Mountains, which describes mountains as a living element of the highest and spiritual growth with every step towards the summit. Finally, the Holy Mother also said that there at the summits divine connects with subtle energies to the earth and we must be especially respectful and pure in thoughts at these heights. Indians even, out of respect for holy mountains, don't even try to climb to the summits, climb the faces of Gods...
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| sabina.728. 11. 2009 13:26:16 |
Thanks for the reply... I apologize to the others, because Viharnik only kindly replied to me.... and all this flared up... He really might have explained it too professionally.... I myself don't delve too much into chakras and Viharnik's world is quite alien to me. But I believe that we also gather spiritual strengths in the mountains, so that we quarrel and die a little less in the valley.
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| mad matheuss28. 11. 2009 13:40:14 |
For someone smart, for another stupid, for the third useless, for the sixth empty nothing, for the ninth everything, etc. For me, for example, Viharnik's spiritual perception of mountains is useless, for him obviously very important...
Mountains are also a very important thing for me, in some way they might have even saved my life. But the point is, I don't proclaim that on a forum titled Forum - conditions. I would probably proclaim it if the title was Forum - perception of mountains.
All serious forums have clearly defined rules that users must follow, otherwise they are sanctioned by moderators. Maybe through the previous couple of messages I'm subtly appealing to the moderator to update the forum, say update the interface with various options (missing for example the function to edit own messages, ignore function,...), to explain forum rules to unaware users. Many smaller portals have such things arranged. Otherwise with undefined rules I simply claim the right to troll something myself once in a while 
For me the debate is over, passing the ball to mod.
No hard feelings and best regards!
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| viharnik28. 11. 2009 13:56:16 |
I think that for some mountaineers a lot of time will pass before they realize who they are and what their mission is, like the optional mad matheus. The path to higher thinking is long and exists beyond mental thinking or acquired worldly erroneous experiences and beliefs, but from the pure depths of man. The one who sees through the illusion of modern times and lives by the principles that the subtle spirit communicates to him is a lucky one on the right path.
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| bronkobil28. 11. 2009 14:01:25 |
I think without occasional trolling it won't work...
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| mad matheuss28. 11. 2009 14:06:54 |
True, what are the conditions like on Mojstrovka? Can I go in short sleeves tomorrow if God's warmth warms me?
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