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Jacket - soft shell

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skiman26. 01. 2009 17:48:07
Could someone from their own experience recommend a GOOD soft-shell suitable for high-mountain visits in winter and ski touring?
Regards
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viharnik26. 01. 2009 18:34:53
Soft-shells are divided into winter (warmer) and summer or three-season ones. Very highly praised are Mammut models, though not necessary. GRS took for winter the Cerro Torre Jacket model, which is very warm, so only for winter. Next, when combined with base layer, is the Ultimate hooded jacket (now the highly anticipated one with hood) - 230 EUR. I bought a non-membrane (breathable) one from Patagonia a year ago, which really wicks away moisture very well. Mammut also has ones with membrane and side zips for venting, which is also fine. It's important that it fits you well and you feel comfortable. More expensive models also have impregnation and partially hold off light showers or snow. For winter-only use, it's good if lined; for summer ones up to around 0°C to -5°C, you can combine with series 100 fleece sweaters.
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MAPET27. 01. 2009 14:22:45
I suggest you go to ON-LINE d.o.o.
Žirovnica in Gorenjska. They have really good jackets, very high-quality. Solid price. I have had one for 4 years already, then bought another the same. Look at the label CALAMAI. And buy it. lp
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Kleemen10. 08. 2016 18:51:54
I'm buying a softshell jacket suitable mainly for the mountains (wind, rain, possibly also a bit warmer, not necessary) and also otherwise to wear - casual. Currently I notice huge discounts (Intersport, Hervis, etc.), so in that range around 40-50 EUR you can already get quite a lot of good windbreakers. In Intersport I have two checked out, but I'm interested in some of your suggestions, since this isn't bought every year; I'd like to buy something quality for several years. Thanks for suggestions.mežikanje
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Guest11. 08. 2016 09:24:50
"Kleemen", I won't mention the "brand-name" of the clothes; I myself use Windstopper, which also has a hood, and under the armpits zippers for ventilation. On colder days, I wear fleece underneath, which also has a hood and zippers for ventilation. Personally, the hood means a lot to me, as you completely close yourself up - "seal yourself", protect your eyes with appropriate goggles, and so wind and cold have a harder time reaching the body. If you're buying something for the mountains, maybe it's not wrong to add a euro or two more, as you said, this isn't bought every year. If you're buying a jacket mainly for mountains, then wear it only in the mountains, because if you also wear it casually, you'll ruin it sooner. Lately I don't go to stores much, but still 40-50€ seems like little money for fairly good quality. Of course what I wrote is just personal opinion; also check under ZS.
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Kleemen11. 08. 2016 11:18:58
Super, thanks for the info. I have a very high-quality windbreaker with a very high water column, but I need a somewhat stronger one that also protects from cold and especially wind; the hood is mandatory as you said and excellent in combination with goggles. For 40-50 EUR you get various softshells on sale, like for example McKinley at Intersport or Kilimanjaro at Hervis. But these are more "unknown" and I don't know how quality the brands are. Backpack and poles I have from McKinley and I'm very satisfied, but I don't know about their windbreakers, where breathability is also very important. Currently there are huge sales in all stores, so you can get some higher-quality product for a lower price. Currently I have these two in mind, but I need to browse a bit more and of course try them on before buying.

http://www.climbersonly.net/moski/jakne/moska-nepremocljiva-vetrovka-resolve.html

http://www.intersport.si/shop/moski-59589/jakne-59602/pohodne-jakne-59603/moska-pohodna-jakna-mckinley-kara-56c71d0bc38b37bf218b4e49
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M&P11. 08. 2016 11:41:33
Hello,
if you already have a quality windbreaker you can also think about some fleece or down jacket (that compress well and take little space), which you wear under the windbreaker when it's cold.
Softshell jacket itself doesn't warm that much.
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Guest11. 08. 2016 11:50:06
Regarding breathability of windbreakers (Gore-Tex) I always had doubts. You put on and zip the jacket, strap on say a 10 kg backpack and rush up the slope up to 40%, to see how much these materials breathe. In that case you're wet from outside as well as inside. A greater number of different layers keeps the temperature better than two "extremely high-quality" ones. More like the onion principle - more layers, then take off or put on again. Oh, and the previous one mentioned down jackets, those small-small, super-light ones, that can be a very good choice. They take little space or weight, provide a lot though.
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drdivx11. 08. 2016 15:18:31
M&P and en-goldy told you everything.
I would add that buying cheap clothes doesn't pay off. In half a year you'll regret the purchase.
Better save a bit more and buy quality windbreaker. Classic softshell is cold and wind blows through quickly.
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Kleemen11. 08. 2016 22:21:48
Excellent, thanks everyone for help. What about for example the highest quality windbreakers in a bit higher price range than my "budget" for windbreaker? velik nasmeh
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drdivx11. 08. 2016 23:24:54
There are many such. Here are two models that are really ok at least for me. Not cheap, but such purchase you do for 6-7 years, unless you have bad luck and tear it earlier on some rock.
Anyway you know best how much max you're willing to spend on windbreaker.


http://www.iglusport.si/trgovina/akcija/trident-wds-grid-jkt/

http://www.iglusport.si/trgovina/jopic-softshell/ultimate-nordpfeiler-jacket-men/
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darinka412. 08. 2016 07:01:39
Klemen, check also the kuka extreme website. They have men's hiking clothes too. Their price is 127 euros.
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M&P12. 08. 2016 09:48:49
In principle, what you get in specialized stores (iglusport, kibuba, promontana,...) should all be quality, prices range between 100 and 300 euros (can be more of course) which one to take depends a lot on what you'll do with it, whether climb Krn in good weather, or Matterhorn in snowstorm, or something in between nasmeh
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subaru12. 08. 2016 10:02:18
If you master online shopping, you can find a lot here:
https://www.bergfreunde.de/outdoor-jacken/fuer--maenner/
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M&P12. 08. 2016 12:02:41
The trouble with online purchase is that you don't dare to try on the item, return shipping is 14€ or 20€ depending on weight which isn't exactly cheap.
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subaru12. 08. 2016 12:20:22
If you don't have an extraordinary build, you can get the right size (every manufacturer has a size chart in cm next to the product).
Even better to try on locally and order abroad nasmeh.
For say 60% discount it's worth the effort.
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Kleemen12. 08. 2016 15:27:27
Not bad, not bad. nasmeh
Yeah that's also an option, try on here and order abroad. I looked at that site, some products same price as here, others much cheaper so depends what you get. Resolve from North Face for example same price as here on sale. From what I saw in tests it's pretty good for the price (70eur on sale), but I need to try it first. I'm buying a windbreaker for spring/fall mainly for wind and water, in case of cold best to wear something warmer underneath and windbreaker over, as M&P mentioned.
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Kleemen13. 10. 2016 22:05:53
Still haven't bought.velik nasmeh

Today I tried this one at Hervis, reduced from 80eur to 40eur, feels quite comfortable but don't know how Kilimanjaro performs in practice. Is it fairly good quality or more cheap?

http://www.hervis.si/store/obla%C4%8Dila/jakne-in-pla%C5%A1%C4%8Di/softshell-jakne/Kilimanjaro/Idahoe/p/COLOR-2043613
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miri14. 10. 2016 08:01:02
Try on three more times and spring will come.velik nasmeh
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martin414. 10. 2016 10:01:33
Kleemen,
make a comparison, 1 jacket there for 200.00 Eur, and this one from Hervis. Pay attention to details and little things. Has solid water column, also breathability...The bottom zipper seems a bit weak to me.
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