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Jany15. 10. 2012 13:02:48
Posting old photos under current conditions would not only be nonsensical, but misleading and dangerous. Many people prepare for their intended tour also based on descriptions and pics posted in "current conditions" of this forum.
Unfortunately, as it seems, some have pics in stock just to post them, even if old and maybe not even theirs.
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jprim15. 10. 2012 13:27:47
Regarding the pics I have to chime in, ...
that some of you think like that,zavijanje z očmi then that's useful for you yourselves, probably not for the vast majority ...
Weather changes from minute to minute anyway, especially if forecast for more unstable weather.
I myself experienced a debate about pics and weather (it referred to Velika Planina,) ... like which day was I even on the mountainzmeden, because the sun was shining then when someone from forum posters was at the top. I just experienced bad weather and didn't even think that I wouldn't believe that someone else, some time behind me at the top or before me, anyway, had nice weather.
That's all about pics and current conditions.
LP!
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Loni15. 10. 2012 18:26:39
I think everyone is responsible for themselves and their actions, we won't blame someone else who maybe wrote in the forum or under some picture how it was. Emphasis is definitely on "was".
But now we'll treat posting pictures as a criminal act or something? Because the conditions in the picture might not suit us.
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Laščan15. 10. 2012 18:51:16
Check the profile of user @otiv, read certain numbers, follow his posts, photos and hiked paths, then throw the stone-if you remain doubting Thomases.
Congratulations @otiv for the beautiful photos of that nice Monday a week ago !!!
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Mako22. 04. 2014 08:09:27
On Saturday (19.4.) during ascent from Vrata towards Luknja we left ski skins on two trees 100m apart in elevation. We left them because they stopped working, and ahead strenuous ascent to Pihavec. When returning, no skins in sight.

The two touring skiers who were ahead of us at Luknja took one pair of skins down to the valley. We got those skins back.

Behind us three more skiers were ascending towards Luknja. Man and two women. Based on ski tracks we observed when skiing from Pihavec towards Luknja, this group of touring skiers continued from Luknja to Konto under Gamsovec and skied back to valley ahead of us.

Please contact us as soon as possible. You can at mako_kern@yahoo.com. Thanks.

Pics from Pihavec: http://www2.arnes.si/~mcuder/ture_dnevnik.html
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Mako23. 04. 2014 11:57:26
I ask the mentioned three skiers once again to contact me. Any information is welcome. Even if they didn't see any dogs, please contact me.

Thanks.
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viharnik12. 05. 2014 17:55:04
Today in Vrata calm, as if nothing happened overnight.
Morning everything frozen, higher up to 10cm new snow, base on ball bearings. During the day snow became crusty, almost no wind, anyway bliss compared to yesterday's deluge. I was the only visitor today with some hikers who went to Bivouac under Luknja and a bit around. Nice, wonderful day !nasmeh
Morning in Vrata1
A feast for the eyes2
Sovatna3
If anyone is climbing4
Sphinx in its kingdom5
Did someone lose a wheel?6
Towards the untouched Luknja7
At the end of the traverse, below bivouac with Stenar8
To moisten the eyes9
Over Bamberga10
Unstable scree base11
Over the goal among the larches12
For the conclusion already poetry13
The road reaches quite far to 1100 m14
Little lake15
Očak glistens in colours16
Serak below Stenar, where the summit wall ends below - last year's avalanche17
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redbull21. 06. 2014 07:42:46
is there still a lot of snow under Luknja, or is it already bare?
thanks

lpp

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viharnik21. 06. 2014 08:29:15
There is still snow in the upper gully of Luknja, lower down only near the wall of Plemenica.
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redbull21. 06. 2014 08:55:39
thanks
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viharnik29. 03. 2017 16:34:16
The northern slopes will remain pleasant for ski touring for quite some time despite little snow.
The road to Vrata is clear to Aljaž. Snow starts half an hour further at the turn-off to Prag. In the morning the crampons were frozen and firm all the way to Luknja. Up top an east wind was blowing, but the sun was already warming well from behind Plemenice. Behind me come three ski tourers from Udine, who leave their skis a bit lower in the cirque by the rock. We eat a little, then follows initially steep descent with stemming, then nice turns on hard, untracked snow. Then a long traverse to the right where we cut through avalanche debris, followed by a nice finish to the canyon of Bistrica. Snow will hold on the north, south melts quickly, best regardsnasmeh
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skala1231. 06. 2017 16:00:34
Some pics from today. It was a very sultry day. Path without peculiarities (a bit of snow still by the wall below the summit, but we can bypass it on scree). But there were lots of chamois on the way to Gamsovec. Nice regards.
Aljažev dom v Vratih1
Triglav2
at the peg3
Trail junction4
Along the path5
View towards Luknja6
a little cooling7
Remnants of snow8
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Plamenice11
ibex12
observer13
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View towards Luknja17
Kanjavec in the background (left in the picture)18
start of the path towards Plamenice19
a little more posing20
Scree21
bivouac below Luknja22
path among the pogačice23
Beautiful views.24
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skleščk2. 06. 2017 14:12:23
Is there any snow towards Zadnjica? Snow patch visible on pic 17. Can it be bypassed?
Thanks for reply
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skala1232. 06. 2017 16:56:25
As far as I saw, the path is clear. Careful steps, good luck.
view towards Zadnjica1
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j.24. 04. 2018 17:47:30
The day before yesterday on skis: at six in the morning there were about 40 cars in the Vrata parking lot. Snow for ski ascent starts approximately at the fork of the Čez Prag path. Numerous avalanche debris is well processed, only in the lower part many places unskiable due to large furrows made by avalanches. Snow was already soft on surface at that hour, last half hour before Luknja I put on crampons, expecting more hardness in shaded steep slope, but they were completely unnecessary. Mainly from Jugov steber occasionally showered mix of snow, ice and rocks, so I ascended a bit more to the right. At Luknja I met a ski tourer who skied down from area between Gamsovec and Pihavci, snow up there quite rotten and heavy for ascent. Some hikers had skis on backpacks aiming for Kredarica via Slovenska smer and then descent Za Cmirom.

Skiing on partly crusty snow wasn't any highlight, up top lots of rocks in snow, below at some spots not too ideal avalanche debris. Tried to get as low as possible on skis, but ended up trudging dozens of meters on foot through beech scrub and it was annoyingly piercing. Maybe gained a meter more if gone more on avalanche. Still nice morning.

And this: few days ago on web twice or thrice posted that descent Za Cmirom almost ideal. Result: in Turkov rov already at six am 30 or 40 cars parked, at ten when returning another ten or twenty more. Though aware I'm part of the crowd visiting mountains, such amount of metal and roughly at least hundred visitors ascending and skiing the valley that day somewhat unpleasantly chilled me.
Wall in the morning.1
Well prepared snow under Luknja.2
Begunjski vrh and Cmir.3
View to the other side.4
It flew from Jugov's pillar.5
Sphinx and her guardians.6
Crowd in Turk's ditch.7
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lino24. 04. 2018 20:30:33
J., thanks for that selfless recommendation of the wonderful descent Za Cmirom. With this touring idea you've brightened the day for many ski tourers. Thanks again!

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j.25. 04. 2018 09:34:06
#Lino, the greatest quality of this and similar forums is that they enable exchange of knowledge and info among those who like going to mountains. I think that's good and right so sometimes I try to contribute modestly myself. Sarcastic comments or even possible shutdown of such online gathering sadly won't prevent excessive visits, with which certain areas of our (and foreign) mountains are undoubtedly overburdened.

If you read my Luknja post carefully, you'd see that the descent in these parts is no longer wonderful. But check this report: http://razmere.e-gora.si/RazmereVsebina.php?Obv=14064. When driving past on Sunday I saw that on the last scree above the forest consolidated snow had partly melted, snow mass slowly turning into individual tongues. Spring is coming!

Good luck!

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SamoK25. 04. 2018 09:49:26
I never thought I'd live to see this: someone taking Lino's comment seriously!
Wow!
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korl25. 04. 2018 10:46:31
you're exaggerating a bit, the storm will surely get him too nasmeh
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turbo25. 04. 2018 11:15:44
@lino is the law!

Hard to decide what's better - the tours he does or his experiential descriptions of the tours he's done. He's long outgrown this forum nasmeh
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