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Naborjet Mountains (traverse)

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palček plezalček11. 07. 2017 21:53:17
In the hope that better late than never... In a few days (from 6.7.2017 to today), the conditions couldn't have changed much. nasmeh

Just before sunrise, I head from Ovčja vas/Valbruna to planina Ravna/Malga Rauna and on to Poldašnja špica/Jôf di Miezegnot (2087 m). The gully below the summit is a bit annoying (pic 1), but still a piece of cake compared to some sections later. From the top, I take the Alpine Battalion Gemona path/ Sentiero Battaglione Alpini Gemona, CAI 649, which, according to web sources, should have been renovated for the upcoming anniversary of the Great War, which our western neighbors call Grande Guerra. The path is well marked and after crossing the scree under Piparji/Monte Piper (pic 3), excellently secured (pic 4) all the way to the top of Visoki Pipar (2069 m). The descent and ascent to Škrbina Čanalut/Forchia di Cjanalot, as well as the approach to Vrh nad Cijanerico/Cima Vildiver (2008 m) is a walking delight, the continuation to Visoka špica/Cima Alta (or Véliki Vrh, as Dr. H. Tuma wrote) (2046 m) is an excellently equipped secured path (pics 10 and 11). I descended to the saddle, from where an unmarked trail should lead through the bushes to Gosadon (1968 m). But lo and behold, no trail. I went down a bit more, although I had already seen the north side of Gosadon from the top of Visoka špica and knew I'd soon be under its rocky north face. When I almost run into it, I decide to try the gully (pic 16) to the top - strongly advise against it, it deserves the name 'climbing rubble à la carte'. But true, at its end you find a trail, from which it's just a few minutes to the top, where, like on the entire path, remnants of the war past intertwine with the flowery present. Where did I miss the junction? Due to curiosity, stubbornness and the unpleasant gully, I descended back to path 649 via a trail that brought me to the saddle (pic 19). I continue up and down between patches of hairy sallow and views towards planina v Dupljah/Malga Granuda (1501 m). When I reach the cairn, I turn right towards the next summit, Cuel dei Pez (1943 m). The trail leads through bushes, marked with old red dots. On the way down, I took another trail/path, but it's more bushy, so I suggest descending the ascent route. From the top and later, when I was back on the Alpine Battalion Gemona path, I saw that it's possible to descend the gully that starts a bit below the top and ends on the marked path a bit more to the west. Followed by continuation to Vančele/Forcella Cuel Tarond (1740 m). From here on, the web info was wrong, as the continuation of path 649 is NOT renovated, I advise against it. The initial part gently crosses the slope of Brd/Monte Secchiez o Berda (1839 m) and offers a pleasant walking adventure with interesting construction inserts (pics 26 and 27), until the first critical passage/gully, where the cables are torn, and everything rolls underfoot towards the valley (pic 28). On the other side, it's necessary to climb up to the continuation of the path. On one side rock, on the other you can use the collapsing war object; the log on the pic lies over it. Further on there are two more 'beauties', once called little bridges (pic 29). At the broken one, you have to descend into the gully and climb back - not hard, because the cable at the bridge is still in good condition. For the other, I don't know how many times it will hold two sacks of cement 'walking' over it; probably not more. The path ahead is leisurely again. In the forest, logs are already prepared for path restoration and while pondering the all-day trip along the traces of WWI, I arrive at the tiny chapel at the beginning of Velika Planina/Casera Biéliga (Slovenian name after Tuma). From here, just climb to Dol/Sella Bieliga (1479 m) (Slovenian name after Tuma). Follows a rather long and not too pleasant descent to Lužnice/Bagni di Lusnizza (700 m). The path is marked, but at Rifugio Berda there's no sign that path 603 turns from the white road to the overgrown cart track that turns into a trail (pic 33), so I extended the trip by about 20 minutes. The path joins the road in the valley. Turn left and then right through the first highway underpass and continue on the main road past houses to the village center, where at Albergo all’ Orso you can buy a bus ticket to Ovčja vas for 2.15 eur and check the timetable.
By the way, at the end of the trip I talked to five locals who didn't understand a single Slovenian word. They're not first violins in English either, two mentioned they speak German, but we understood each other only when I miraculously spoke their native language in an instant, which by the way I don't speak at all. velik nasmeh

If the phone doesn't lie, there were 2481 m ascent and a bit more descent. Total distance about 29 km.
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) Gully on the path to Poldašnja špica.1
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) Slightly narrow section on descent from Poldašnja špica - view back.2
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) Part of scree under Piparji.3
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) Secured path to Visoki Pipar.4
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) From Visoki Pipar towards Montaž and Strma peč.5
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) Path continuation - two peaks on the left.6
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) From Vrh nad Cjanerico towards Visoka špica.7
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) Entrance into the darkness.8
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) Exit from the tunnel with a view towards the higher 'sister'.9
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) towards the window10
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) View back11
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) View from Visoka špica on the hills already traversed.12
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) Broken binoculars :( Which peak is in front of me? ;)13
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) A somewhat clearer view and my next stop will be on Gosadon - the peak in the foreground.14
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) War remains on Gosadon.15
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) Continuation of the ridge from Visoka špica - before the first rocky bulge a gully leads from the left, to which I joined the path in its upper part.16
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) View of part of the route already covered.17
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) Tempting.18
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) 3 m before the markers on the rock there is a path to the left through the scrub leading to Gosadon.19
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) Hairy rockcress20
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) Alpine pasture in Duplje.21
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) Paradise footbridge.22
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) Figure towards the summit of Cuel dei Pez.23
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) View from the summit towards the north...24
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) ...and to the west.25
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) Today a viewpoint, once...26
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) Water flows in the gully, which they have used extensively.27
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) Crossing the first critical gully.28
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) Collapsed and rotten footbridge.29
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) Chapel30
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) Towards Dol.31
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) Peek back32
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) Brda Shelter.33
Naborjet Mountains (traverse) The bus stop is in front of the church34
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palček plezalček17. 06. 2018 22:47:12
Western part of Naborje Mountains

Yesterday a pleasant morning breeze blew through Dunja valley, when I set off uphill from Chiout along the prohibited but well-maintained forest road (CAI 601), from which the marked path soon turns slightly left and climbs past weekend huts (perhaps former barracks) towards the 1846 m high hill Clap del Jovel.
The forest was replaced by high dwarf pines and increasingly beautiful views towards Dunja Peak opened up. Soon I spotted a grassy 'flank' ahead that could be the desired passage. I left the path and sailed through rocks and dwarf pines that generously showered me with golden dust at every touch. In a moment I decided not to stray from marked paths anymore today and thus not to hang out 'hand in hand' with dwarf pines, so I don't return to the valley quite canary-colored. velik nasmeh
Continuing brought me via grass to path CAI 602 and further below the aforementioned peak. Here I left the path again for a few minutes and after two hours and about 1010m elevation on steeper grass climbed to the cross decorated with 'aesthetic' artificial flowers. zavijanje z očmi Views were fantastic, only Montaž shyly hid behind clouds.
Soon I headed towards Lipnik. Before I could catch my breath properly on its panoramic summit, I revoked the previous decision to continue along white-red marks and avoid flowering shrubby mountain pines.
On along the ridge then, first on grass, then easy scrambling and when I wanted to use all four limbs again, I spot a pathlet to the right. I go along it, but the decision wasn't the best as the earthen ground was ideal for slipping, so after the first gully I flee back to the ridge. When I reach the dwarf pines, it turns out they are even a bit sawn, making progress quite effortless. Just a few tens of meters I had to deal with branches in hands and under feet and already stepped onto the marked path that reaches the ridge here. Along it I continued to Dunja Peak.
From the top I started descending towards Cuel Formian hill. Officially the marked CAI 602 path goes here, but you need some sense of orientation to know where to continue. No path, after some 200m elevation I spotted 2 red dots and two white-red stripes. Then the path slowly becomes visible and more marks too. I also stopped at Clap Foratu, for which K. J. in the Western Julian Alps guide says “it's worth lingering on it, as it's an excellent viewpoint.” To get the view you have to effort a bit, as pines and larches grow on top, and also those few minutes access in the key from Mincigos saddle seemed a bit more to me. Just a few steps from where you can leave the path and through low shrubs reach its indistinct summit. The further descent is steep but extremely enjoyable. Among pines and with deep views I descended to the junction of four paths, went left and at the houses right through the yard further along the path to Prerit from where I had a friendly ride to the 7 km distant starting point.
Forest road1
From Clap Forata to Lipnik.2
Weekend cottages that don't even lack a satellite dish.3
everything is blooming4
From Clap del Jovela towards Lipnik.5
scenic path6
Lipnik7
Ridge towards Vrh Dunje, behind Zuc dal Bor.8
View back and ...9
... further on.10
Still through scree and soon on the marked path.11
Naborjetske gore from Vrh Dunje.12
Vrh Dunje.13
Cotton tufts floating in the sky.14
descent15
descent16
On leaving the Dunje valley, Montaž shines in the sun.17
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bbugari118. 06. 2018 09:19:37
Perfectly described and the pics are great too. Congrats!!!
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bbugari118. 06. 2018 11:38:13
And one more thing.
Do you have any suggestion for a two-day full traverse of Naborje Mountains (sleeping options, etc.)? Is the Brda traverse section repaired (gully, bridges...)? Do I need full SV?
Thanks in advance!
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palček plezalček18. 06. 2018 21:17:03
I read that Casera Bieliga/alm on Velika planina offers sleeping, maybe good to call Mr. Giancarlo: 338 7814203 - 0429 784413

Ricovero Armando Bernardinis below Vrh nad Cijanerico/Cima Vildiver (bivouac, water in cistern nearby; what kind, I don't know): http://www.planetmountain.com/trekking/rifugi/display.php?id=780

Ricovero Battaglione Alpini Gemona (bivouac was renovated last year, sleeping not possible).

What state is the second part of CAI 649 path this year, I don't know. According to what's written at: http://www.cai-fvg.it/sentieri-cai-fvg/settore-6-alpi-giulie/s6-649/ the path between CAI 648 and CAI 605 is impassable due to landslide. (Cars were at 648 start; what's actually passable, I don't know.)

Interesting to start at Rudni vrh saddle/Sella di Somdogna and end in Prerit. Possible in one or two days with sleep at Malga Bieliga.

Water at Bieliga saddle, when the path already starts descending slightly towards S. Potoček is on the right side of the path, but last year sheep, cows and donkeys grazed on the alm.

On path 602 there's a water intake. Before the path turns right over the metal/mesh bridge, turn left on the well visible pathlet and soon you're at water (described in descent direction).

For such set path uninteresting, but anyway... water flows into trough at the weekend huts mentioned above right by path 601. Similarly findable (streams) on path 603 from Lužnice towards the ridge.
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bbugari119. 06. 2018 08:59:56
I was thinking to start like you, in Ovča vas, because of traversing also Poldašnja špica, although that creates problem with return to start.
Need to find a partner... mežikanje
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miranm19. 06. 2018 11:56:45
Hi bbugari1,
On Sunday 17.6.2018 we visited the highest peak of the Two Spikes - Cima Alta. We started on path 648, which is officially closed due to landslides, and returned on path 605, which is in good condition.
Bivouac under Cima Vildiver (Bernardinis) offers shelter, water in the cistern in front is not drinkable.
Good luck and safe steps!
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bbugari119. 06. 2018 12:25:02
So despite the landslide the path is passable...
Thanks miranm!
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bagi19. 06. 2018 13:19:13
To avoid confusion ...

Path 648 is the access path from the valley and is officially NOT closed

Click ... http://www.cai-fvg.it/sentieri-cai-fvg/settore-6-alpi-giulie/s6-648/

Path 649 is the connecting path between peaks and is officially CLOSED. Reason is landslide.

Click ... http://www.cai-fvg.it/sentieri-cai-fvg/settore-6-alpi-giulie/s6-649/


Paths 649, 648 and 605.1
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bbugari119. 06. 2018 14:33:22
Yes, but miranm should have gone through that closed part of CAI 649 if coming from CAI 648 to the Two Spikes, right?
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miranm19. 06. 2018 15:51:15
We crossed the closed part of the path and climbed to bivouac Bernardinis, and from there through the tunnel of Cima Vildiver along the carved ledge to Cima Alta. At the saddle where the path to Piparje goes right, there is a sign that the path is officially closed, that sign was probably put up about ten days ago.


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palček plezalček19. 06. 2018 16:43:20
bbugari1, last year I took the bus from Lužnice back to the start. Maybe try to find a bus at the link:
https://www.virail.com/dogna-valbruna/2018-06-23

The picture shows buses on Sat., 23.6. afternoon.
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bbugari124. 06. 2018 17:06:52
Yesterday following palček plezalček's rough plan... Start from Rudni vrh at 4:50 am to bivouac Gemona. The bivouac is great, sleeping possible, 4 beds, stove and gas cooker. Then along Sentiero Battaglione Gemona - CAI 649 (visit to Poldašnja špica scheduled for another circular tour around Zajzera). Ascent to Pipar excellently secured, but before that some care needed on the scree. The section from CAI 648 junction to CAI 605 junction is officially closed but normally passable. Past Škrbina Čanalut, bivouac Bernardinis (6 beds; larger but not as nice as bivouac Gemona), Vrh nad Cijanerico, through cave and window and across carved ledge to Velika špica. I gave up the ascent to Gosadon, although I saw the path junction and that collapsed gully of palček plezalček...
After CAI 604 junction towards Planina v Dupljah follows a mentally and physically demanding but very romantic and interesting section to a small saddle (where semi-marked path to Cuel dei Pez branches). The path here is less trodden but well marked. Crossing some screes not so easy, protections sometimes missing, but the ascent to the ridge seems endless. Then - down and up... Still, very nice and interesting, especially for lovers of solitude, scrambling and wilderness. To Cuel dei Pez I go via variant from cairn at small saddle and back the same way. It's well visible but through dense flowery bushes still demanding. Descent via the gully recommended by palček plezalček doesn't seem safe to me due to untrodden scree, though shorter...
At Vančele (junction completely unmarked!) I ponder if it's worth risking due to announced critical spots on the continuation under Brdih. Still decided – onwards! Pleasant flowery path gradually leads to rocks. And then – pleasant surprise: all critical spots newly properly secured with cables and metal ladders (before gully, across gully and first bridge), or passage over new log with cable (second bridge). Without that I wouldn't dare continue and would rather return to Vančele!
Followed descent via CAI 601 from Velika Planina to Dunja (Chiut) where I arrived at 14:30. While walking back on the road to Rudni vrh I saw a much shorter path descending from Velika Planina to the road in Dunja near hamlet Mincigos.
dawn - Poliški špik with CAI 6091
below bivouac Gemona2
military buildings with bivouac Gemona3
interior of bivouac Gemona4
interior of bivouac Gemona5
war remains at bivouac Gemona6
junction at bivouac Gemona7
long scree east of Pipar8
view from Pipar to Dve špice9
start of descent from Pipar10
Pipar, view on Poliški špik11
Steep wall from Pipar12
Split of CAI 649 and CAI 648, no closure signs on 649 (left), but signs are on the ground.13
Junction at Čanalot, sign - Bivio sent. 604 - means the branch to the summit of Visoka špica.14
bivouac Bernardinis15
From Vrh nad Cijanerico - carved path towards Visoka špica.16
entrance to the cavern17
From the cave towards Tablja and Mokrine.18
Exit from the cave.19
Path through the window.20
Carved and secured ledge.21
Military latrine.22
Naborjet from Visoka špica23
Passable path below the summit of Gosadon24
Junction of the path to Planina v Dupljah25
Planina v Dupljah26
Cuel dei Pez - view of the path between Vančelo and the dangerous rocks below Brdih27
Unmarked junction at Vančelo28
Very wiiiide mulatiera29
First ladder, already before the gully30
Exit from the gully to the other side - without the new fixed rope, continuing the path would be very dangerous (about 5m)31
New fixed ropes also in the gully32
New solution for the first...33
...and the second little bridge34
At the end of path CAI 64935
Signposts at Velika planina36
Branch-off of CAI 601 from the forest road37
Poliški špik - king of Dunje38
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palček plezalček25. 06. 2018 10:30:23
Nice loop nasmeh and great that they managed to fully repair path 649.
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ejti25. 06. 2018 11:12:36
One question - does the direction of traversing Piparji significantly affect difficulty? I see you all traversed W-E, if reverse (e.g. from Two Spikes to Poldašnja špica), that unavoidable road return section would at least be downhill.
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2061alessio25. 06. 2018 12:01:09
due to landslide path 649 we officially closed that part on 15.06, I had accidentally only one sign in the car so when returning from path check I placed it at the start of path 648 Ziffer; bbugari1 writes.... "officially closed but normally passable", that means -officially closed for all- then everyone decides as they want and we are not responsible for possible accident (rescue costs and people's lives); at pic no.28 last year there were still 2 signs but wooden pole was broken, when we get new signs we will install/repair from junction under 2 Pizzi to/towards Sella Bieliga, best regards Alessio for PD CAI Tarvisio.
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bbugari125. 06. 2018 17:15:36
ejti: no influence. In this direction (W - E) it's even easier on some scree sections E of Pipar. On the cables it's the same...

Alessio: Maintenance of signs/markings is generally lacking. Look at pic 36... "Dove il CAI?". Then sign "Bivio sent. 604 0.50" on Čanalut: for that I had to give a special explanation. Turnoff to Velika špica summit: missing sign for path to the west. Vančela...
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ejti25. 06. 2018 17:58:19
Thanks for the answers.

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2061alessio25. 06. 2018 20:18:10
as I already wrote, all those signs that are missing, broken or old, from 2Pizzi turnoff to Bieliga saddle - at 4 locations - are ordered and we will install new ones when we get them, at least it's all voluntary; I see in pic 31 that we'll need to dig out the trail a bit again; pic 36, that our Italian who wrote ...CAI DOVE SEI?, we already informed [that] he will come to help - voluntarily - on trail maintenance so he'll see it's not easy.
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2061alessio20. 07. 2018 12:04:34
yesterday we officially reopened this part of the trail, company repaired the landslide, fixed and added a couple meters of rope, note that for traversing this part keep good distance between hikers because rockfall danger remains; we fixed those trail parts between bivak Gemona and Piper because the constant scree moves, still problem those couple meters on pic 31 from bbugari1 because rockslide damage, maximum caution traversing this part and of course with via ferrata kit, best Alessio x CAI Tarvisio.
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palček plezalček20. 07. 2018 12:09:05
2061alessio, thanks for taking care of the trails. You have wonderful mountains and it's great to visit them. nasmeh
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