Navigation in the mountains then and now
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| Žiga226. 11. 2017 08:20:25 |
Navigation starts already at home.  I use forums, accessible image materials and apps.
On the terrain exclusively and only the map, compass if needed and sketches. I try to avoid smartphones because if the battery dies, you're screwed.
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| damijanp6. 11. 2017 12:10:22 |
For navigation and route logging on the phone I use the app Alpinequest, in addition PeakFinder for recognizing surrounding peaks. In the backpack there is always a Powerbank (10000 mAh) if extra phone battery charging is needed, and the good old paper hiking map .
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| MountaineerX6. 11. 2017 16:32:58 |
Most reliable! --> Map + Compass
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| piotr6. 11. 2017 18:04:39 |
True, good old maps despite all "flaws" are still irreplaceable. In my collection of over 100 copies, besides the content value there is also quite some sentimental value.
Occasionally my companion is the Garmin Dakota 20 with really bad Adria Topo cartography loaded.
So I give preference to paper aids, while electronic (smart) ones are just a supplement.
Books won't die out because of e-books either.
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| Bojan_A6. 11. 2017 18:25:00 |
@DAmijan: Thanks for the Alpinequest app
@Piotr: Can't compare books and maps. Printed books I think won't go extinct. For printed maps I'm not so sure.
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| piotr6. 11. 2017 18:47:58 |
Given the small size of displays on navigation devices and their mechanical sensitivity or even unresponsiveness due to moisture in the mountains, there's no doubt here... No serious cartographic publisher has stopped their print editions despite e-supplements.
Reliability in the mountains is essential, which electronic gadgets will never boast about.
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| turbo6. 11. 2017 21:15:56 |
Everything that doesn't run on batteries is the law in the mountains. Printed map, compass, and say altimeter. Analog beats digital because it doesn't need electricity, cold, heat, moisture don't bother it, and no updates or upgrades needed Calibrate altimeter with map, see if pressure drops or rises, with map along the path recognize surrounding peaks (wide perspective vs small LCD screen), with compass at least turn the map right
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| A-Zaslap6. 11. 2017 22:31:25 |
Yeah, best to drag a sextant and astrolabe along too. "Analog" tools suffer from pretty similar shortcomings as you accuse digital ones of. After all, the map can blow into a ravine, or you lose it or forget it during lunch break. It can tear, get wet, wear out... Phones don't die every day, no need to fear them.
I primarily use phone, paper map only exceptionally just in case.
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| Ninđa7. 11. 2017 06:51:38 |
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| Zebdi7. 11. 2017 08:09:16 |
I use PZS maps. Printed, of course. I don't take a smartphone to the mountains at all
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| dprapr7. 11. 2017 14:50:23 |
Wow, what all do you carry along. I'll make a list.
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| bumslpepe7. 11. 2017 17:31:51 |
Oruxmaps app and maps from openandromaps website. Proven to work in the Julian Alps and on Velebit.
Development goes forward, we don't wear Ötzi-style moccasins anymore.
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| spet_jaz7. 11. 2017 20:31:11 |
Another vote for LocusMap and PZS maps, as @Ninđa already wrote before me.
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| ZeK7. 11. 2017 21:41:34 |
I have a paper map, sometimes my own sketch, and a button phone. It's more effective for me to call for help (it works even blindly); I don't need a phone in the mountains for anything else, nor do I want one.
Of course, to each his own. I don't deny the joy to those on e-maps.
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| jax8. 11. 2017 07:36:55 |
Button phone is actually more practical. I don't carry it myself, because I'd have to find it first, but that's a fact.
Classic map is definitely superior to electronic. If nothing else, for something so banal as observing panorama from the top. Don't know how to unfold the electronic one ;-)
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| Bojan_A8. 11. 2017 17:10:54 |
That button phone is more practical? Hello?!
As it turns out now electronic and printed map are completely equal. So we can't say anymore which is better. It's only about which is more robust, usable.
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| jax8. 11. 2017 18:17:35 |
I agree with that of course. But the point is, even if you have exactly the same map on phone as on paper, on screen you're limited to very small section at a time. Map you can unfold fully ;-)
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| Bojan_A8. 11. 2017 18:19:19 |
On phone you have zoom in / zoom out function. For me personally it's much more practical than unfolding the whole map. Of course it's a matter of personal preference.
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| jax8. 11. 2017 18:23:17 |
Of course you have it. But you have to zoom in, out, move etc. On map you have everything at hand. That's very nice for example with panorama from peaks, when you want wider view. But I agree, whatever suits one.
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