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Origin of mountain names

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jax22. 10. 2011 10:30:42
Okmodko: well yeah. As I said already, it's about Italian names that have no direct connection to fascism as a form of government. And second: it's not just about you, but I think in the current spirit of the times generally: I don't know why you all want to see more in certain statements than is actually there. The choice of language for a name carries no political connotation at all, except the one the recipient wants to hear. For that - let the recipient clear it up with himself, fascism up or down.
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turbo22. 10. 2011 12:14:04
@Okmodko,

can't find on Google, so you tell me please. Your nickname zmeden is of Chinese origin Italianized or of Korean origin Germanized zmeden
Well, couldn't get help from Wikipedia either mrk pogled
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Okmodko23. 10. 2011 21:49:26
My nickname is composed of a couple of abbreviations. Yours though is found on Wikipedia yeah, just write Equus africanus asinus and it shows you everything.
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Loni24. 10. 2011 08:18:57
Yesterday I was having fun solving crosswords and browsed a bit through the lexicon and of course the web too, on the page of my former home Pudgura there's a really cool contribution by A. P. Until now okra was for me just the pod (bamiya), well, now I see that Nanos somehow fits under that name too:
http://www.pudgura.com/index.php?Itemid=31&id=14&option=com_content&task=view
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VanSims28. 10. 2011 14:14:42
@Okmodko: very well said!cool
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osojnica3. 11. 2011 23:06:17
Check out the latest still ongoing poll and the incorrect naming of the Pavličev vrh saddle in it. Is it because of the poll, or because of...
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šodrovc6. 11. 2011 15:22:07
Pavličev vrh

Our nation was often forced in the past to prove allegiance to Slovenian identity against Germanization. Hills in this context meant more than a symbolic battleground - to be or not to be. The hard-won 'being' can quickly become taken for granted, careless Pišmeuh-like, a slide from roots to oblivion. So. Pavličev vrh. Peak. Slovenes have Pavličev vrh. Forgive those who 'saddle' it willfully or not, the 'Hribi.net' portal is one exception that aims for an enlightening role and knows 'whether it's kaša or kasha'.

Let me add an excerpt from Mr. Stanko Klinar's review on the release of the book 'Karavanke without borders':

«I can't make people understand that names hold the soul of the nation, that names are true folk epic, segment of folk poetry that can't stand amateur violence. I mean, foremost among painful points, this unfortunate cursed Pavličevo sedlo. Throughout history it was Pavličev vrh (see Knafelc's map of Kamnik-Savinja Alps, Karavanke and Kamnik Alps map by Vlasta Kopač, see Šašel's Nomenclature of Carinthian Karavanke in Planinski vestnik 1930-1931), now on all signposts it's Pavličevo sedlo, same on maps and guides, leading the doom is Atlas Slovenije, which writers, cartographers, roadbuilders cite as geographical bible (who looks under god's feet!), but actually leads antiquity to death, Pavličevo sedlo is reverse translation from German Paulitschsattel. But in vain for years I bash my head against this concrete, nothing moves. (In names like Jezerski vrh, Smokuški vrh, Pastirkov vrh, Ledrovski vrh and - of course! - Pavličev vrh, vrh means pass, saddle, not peak; remnant of old world, shouldn't toss it over fence; see Planinski terminološki slovar; ZRC SAZU, Ljubljana, 2002)»


P.S.: Please ask administrator Tadej to correct 'Pavličevo sedlo' to 'Pavličev vrh' in the poll on the pass from Jezersko to Železna Kapla.
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katty21. 11. 2011 15:18:31
Yes, let me add my little pot to this debate againmežikanje:
Virnikov Grintovec got its name from local Virnik, Grintovec from "grinta or ugliness of the peak".
Name of Kočna mountain comes from the lower valley also called Kočna. Additions to Kočna we all know: Kokrška Kočna from Kokra valley, Jezerska Kočna from Jezerska valley.

Got such info yesterday from a local from Šenčur.
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@rekar21. 11. 2011 16:16:40
velik nasmehkettiy
Don't know if they know that in Šenčur, I'd rather say it's from Virnik homestead on Jezersko, but agree grintovec is after some guy or beggar who hid around there, they called him grinta.
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katty21. 11. 2011 16:57:21
Yes, below Virnikov Grintovec is Virnik farm, after which the mountain is named. Grintovec supposedly means grintovo, lousy - more pejorative meaning.
Anyway, origins of names are extremely interesting, usually based on natural laws or known persons, farms, valleys, ...
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Okmodko21. 11. 2011 19:13:24
Šmarna gora got its name from Mary's church on the top of the hill. Holy Mary, formerly Šent Marija, Šentmarijina, Šmarijina and we get Šmarna nasmeh
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atoamac21. 11. 2011 21:09:10
What if some St. Martin from Šmartno pod Šmarno goro had his fingers in it? Or manor lord Albertus de Marienberch, owner of the castle on top (before 1216), whom Vilko Mazi claims that the hill got its name after? Marienberški - Marijinogorski - Šmarnogorski? (from Andrej Stritar's guide Izleti po Ljubljanski okolici, Sidarta, 1994)
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Mat017. 07. 2014 21:04:00
I know most call this mountain Tosc, but occasionally still hear Tošc.
Who calls this mountain Tošc and why? Bohinjci?
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urbancek7. 07. 2014 21:12:09
...but there's also a similar one in Polhograjcihvelik nasmehvelik nasmeh
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Mat017. 07. 2014 21:17:44
I didn't know there are multiple Toscs or Tošcs.
I'm thinking of the one above Veliko polje, slightly south of Triglav.
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Sorok7. 07. 2014 21:54:49
This one is Tosc, approx. 2275 m above Piran - a meter up or down...velik nasmehnasmeh
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peter28. 07. 2014 06:41:08
That Tosc (2275m) was never Tošč. At least not in Bohinj.
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JusAvgustin8. 07. 2014 07:34:03
http://www.gore-ljudje.net/novosti/67114/

Tošc, Tosc, Tolstec... No difference. Also Tuma, and in VJA it's Tošc.
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tinky8. 07. 2014 07:36:27
Tosc is Tosc / 2275 / , Tošč is Tošč / 1021 /. It's important that it doesn't have Ć at the end.
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