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Podvežak-Lastovec- Deska-Veliki vrh-Vodotočnik-Podvežak

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geppo25. 01. 2016 17:52:50
Last Monday in January this year we made good use of it.
Road to Podvežak is drivable. To Planinšek it's pretty normal driving, further on it's possible too... A bit worried us the large amount of rocks on the road under the walls. Looks like during thaw a lot flies onto the road!!!
7:30am we park and through loose snow towards the mountain pasture. Snow there up to 15cm. When we spot Veliki vrh (8:30am) decision falls to climb it first. We go right (over Vrtače/Dolge trate) and up NE side to the top. When starting the ascent we put on crampons. Higher we are, louder the wind howling above us.
We observe on top "sweeping" (curtains), NW wind. When we reach the top (10:30am) it blows so hard I tie my rucksack to the logbook box. We stagger in the hurricane wind, take a few shots and immediately down the west wall towards Molička. We climb to Črni vrh and then look for passages towards Vodotočnik. In between we sing into the phone to a colleague (happy birthday..)velik nasmeh. She's hiking right now too, just in the Julian Alps.coolzavijanje z očmi
We don't go to Vodotočnik, but direct to Deska summit. From Deska to Lastovec and descent along the ridge to the hut below it. A few more minutes and back at the start where the car is parked.
Whole tour took 6:30hrs. Conditions very variable: icy, windblown snow, southern snow. Not much snow, except where drifts are.
It was a nice last January Monday!!cool
lp
Podvežak1
Decision made for Veliki vrh2
Towards Inkret's springs3
Towards Dleskovec4
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Below Pl. Vodole6
Veliki vrh from the NE side7
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View towards Ojstrica10
Ascent11
Just a little more to the summit12
Veliki vrh before the ascent13
At the summit - wind14
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Descent and view back16
Descent17
Ascent to Črni vrh18
At the summit19
View back20
Towards Lastovec21
Yet our gaze still slips back towards Ojstrica22
And further on too23
Vodotočnik24
When the eyes water25
When the eyes water26
When the eyes water27
When the eyes water28
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End31
Velika planina quite close32
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MatejaP26. 01. 2016 08:04:01
Obviously you had singing practice, to sing so harmoniously to me. Thanks once again and the cakes are waitingnasmeh
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JTrogar26. 01. 2016 19:38:25
Mateja well, we were good. We liked it too.velik nasmehvelik nasmeh
Some more photo material to Zlatko's description.
Best regards and safe steps to all from under the nice Golts, Janez
planina Vodole1
Olševa2
Pohorje, Golte, Dleskovec and us3
Raduha, Smrekovško pogorje, Uršlja gora, Golte4
Veliki vrh, it was icy too5
descent from Veliki vrh6
descent from Veliki vrh7
descent from Veliki vrh, the clogs were a problem8
peek towards the chapel on Molička planina9
Velika Zelenica, Veliki vrh10
on Črni vrh11
on Črni vrh, behind Ojstrica and Krofička12
us on Črni vrh, behind Planjava, Vilice, Lučka Baba, Ojstrica, Mala Ojstrica13
peek towards the chapel on Molička planina from Črni vrh14
ascent to Tolsti vrh15
Descent from Tolsti vrh to Deska16
Panorama from Kalški greben to Veliki vrh17
Snapshot on Deska18
SA19
Snapshot on Deska20
Snapshot on Deska21
Snapshot on Deska22
Snapshot on Deska23
Snapshot on Deska24
SA25
Also quite good conditions for ski touring26
Vežica, Grintovec27
Planjava, Vilice28
Vilice, Lučka Baba29
Vodotočnik30
Peek towards Škarje31
Nice32
Kalški greben, Storžič, Triglav, Grintovec, Skuta, Planjava, Vilice, Lučka kopa, Presedljaj, Vežica33
Konj, Rzenik, Lučka kopa, Presedljaj, Krvavec34
Velika planina35
Sleeping monk36
Dleskovška plateau, Golte37
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Bbrina27. 01. 2016 08:10:13
Beautiful photos you two made, the photos alone pull me up there.
Lp all
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pika22. 02. 2020 18:19:31
To refresh conditions a bit. Road ok, little snow. From Podvežak to Deska, Tolsti vrh, back over Lastovec. Under Lastovec big windthrow all the way to the hunting hut, so best to stick to the new forest road.
Towards Deska1
Veliki vrh2
Ojstrica3
windthrow4
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jprim23. 02. 2020 17:47:49
A bit left and a bit right, and you can go around or over fallen trees. This windthrow is about two years old. So the new trodden path is quite traceable, of course less visible in winter.
Lp!
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palček plezalček6. 06. 2020 21:12:55
Not quite the right topic, but it'll have to do. Today from parking under Podvežak pasture to hunting hut and on towards Lastovec. I turn left and cross under it and at Starih stali encounter a surprise. Instead of meadow I see a drying-up lake. nasmeh I continue past Vodotočnik to Deska, where everything has finally become enveloped in fog. A bit left, a bit right and quickly find the well-visible ridge path over Lastovec, which soon brings me to the path back to hunting hut and start.
below Lastovec1
The fogs are parting2
picturesque3
A few rays illuminate Presedljaj4
Drying-up lake on Stare stale5
Water in abundance6
Little waterfalls7
Water trough8
If you don't follow the path, you also find some snow patches9
everything is blooming10
Deska11
Path over Lastovec12
instead of the sun13
View back14
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geppo7. 06. 2020 08:01:03
palček plezalček
in these parts it's not advisable to wander in thick fog, it quickly happens that you don't know where you are....?
hope you chose the path from Starih stali along the gully with water upwards. Very picturesque with many pools and small waterfalls.
lp
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ločanka7. 06. 2020 11:14:51
I did exactly this tour once, just in the opposite direction. It has remained in my very nice memory, worth repeatingnasmeh.
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zokipoki7. 06. 2020 12:49:52
Great photos palček!nasmeh on the second one you can really smell the solitude of this beautiful trail... Lp
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palček plezalček7. 06. 2020 17:11:09
Geppo, thanks for the concern. I went up along the water and then a bit on my own before Deska. I didn't know the descent from Deska over Lastovec, so I went a bit to scout and if I hadn't found the little path right away, I would have turned back and descended the marked one to Podvežak.

Ločanka, I agree, the tour is worth repeating. I had some more in plan, but because of the fog I decided the exploratory addition would come another time. So it needs to be repeated nasmeh

Zokipoki, hard to believe, but it wasn't as solitary as it seems.
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j.13. 05. 2022 19:09:37
On Wednesday, May 11th from the end of the road in Lučka Bela to planina Šibje. Along the ridge to the path over Grofov štant, to Lastovec, Deska and Tolsti vrh and back past Vodotočnik and over Grofov štant and down to the marked path that leads through the Lučka Bela valley to Korošica.

I left the car at the start of the marked trail. Above the dead-end forest road leading towards Brežiči peak, I found a barely noticeable transverse path that about 200m above Lučka Bela leads to planina Šibje. The path disappears several times in forest blowdowns.

In the forest above Šibje (wherever that planina is) on the steep slope somewhat right of the ridge, there was only a light trench visible, more of a game trail than a path. Through steep gullies I somehow pushed past the rock barrier. At the trickier spots the trace was quite trodden and I used it to find passages.

On the ridge at about 1470m I spotted a barely visible path junction. Right and down led towards Lučka Bela valley, left over the edge somewhere into the abyss and right up towards Lastovec summit. I followed the latter, sometimes through untrodden steep grass it really brought me in less than half an hour to the transverse hunting path. To Lastovec I headed straight up. Pure lonely untouched wilderness there. Chamois watched me curiously from rocks below Lastovec. All around is a burn area. The fire raged here around 2000, and the burnt debris hasn't overgrown even a bit to this day. On the surface, about 500x500m, the remains of branches burned more than 20 years ago stick sadly into the sky, maybe modestly greened with grass in summer. Not pleasant to walk through, and the pathless scree wasn't much fun either. Above I veered right from the summit rocks, then tried through a patch of dense dwarf pine on the mountaintop to find a way to the top. No success. Similarly on the east and north sides.

Along the path straight up I continued to Deska, from there across snowfield to the neighboring comfortably reclined Tolsti vrh. There were numerous snowfields on Ojstrica and Planjava, Krofička looked more bare. Rzenik on the other side of Bela showed its two-faced nature. On one side merciless crumbling abyss, on the other friendly slopes of bare green dwarf pine.

From Vodotočnik I descended pathless partly grassy partly dwarf pine slopes to the hunting path below Lastovec. After crossing the scree the path squeezes under cliffs and through fine passages leads to the forest. There a variant branches sharply right, which I came on a few hours ago and now returned on it. The steep grass seemed easier than in the morning, still I wouldn't recommend in wet.

At about 1470m a path challenged me that left of the ridge leads into the abyss above Grofov štant area. Through steep and partly exposed dwarf pine I followed it about 50m until it ended at a viewpoint. Štant? Some branches were trimmed there, but lower down dwarf pine gave way to crumbly walls over which I saw no passage. I returned to the ridge, from there on a really poorly visible but once probably trodden path left down to the valley. After about 150m the path lost under fallen trees. Carefully I continued straight down the steep forested gully and with luck hit the path I walked in the morning.

Following my morning track I slowly descended to the marked path leading to Korošica and along it to the watery valley bottom that under Lučka Kopa leads right of Presedlaj. Left of it under Kopa apparently a quite abandoned hunting path goes. But about planina Šibje, about the small clearing from which the path branches and about building remains there was no sign anywhere.

A nice day behind me, but something was missing. Nothing important, magnificent, but still.. Maybe such a feeling just plants itself, simply as a convenient excuse so that the traveler revisits these wonderful lonely places again, more thoroughly and with even greater pleasure and enjoys them.

Above 1800m large patches of southern snow, gaiters are quite suitable. For visiting Ojstrica, Planjava and similar beauties an ice axe probably won't be amiss.

Longer description at Modrini neba.
The transverse path to Šibje is maintained in places.1
Passages above Šibje: straight up the slope.2
At this point a path branches off to the viewpoint.3
Steep grass.4
View from Lastovec towards Brežice.5
Burnt sorrow.6
Saddle, left Lučka Kopa, Konj and behind Rzenik. Slightly snow-covered Kalški greben.7
Paraglider over Lastavec. How to get to the top?8
Spring checkered Ojstrica.9
Deska summit, Rzenik behind.10
Zleknjen Tolsti vrh.11
Veliki vrh.12
Abundance of spring snow patches.13
Krofička almost snow-free.14
Snow above Planina Vodotočnik.15
Planina Vodotočnik.16
First across the screes.17
Lush.18
Under the overhang it goes.19
Path under the pillar.20
View back in the direction of Vodotočnik.21
Ice cave.22
The path crosses under Vrh Lastovca.23
Lučka Bela valley. At the prominent pillars in the ridge is the passage to the viewpoint.24
Charming grasses with long awns.25
Immediately after the rock, the path to Šibje branches sharply right.26
Steep, unmown grasses on the upper traverse.27
At this tree (1470m) the path leads to the viewpoint above the precipice. Perhaps even further...28
Small valley of Lučka Kopo.29
Track.30
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zokipoki13. 05. 2022 20:50:23
Excellent tour j..
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lubadar13. 05. 2022 21:52:49
What's the condition of the road to Lučka Bela?
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j.13. 05. 2022 23:08:00
Thanks, Zoki!
Lubadar, the road is fine.
Good luck to both!
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n3jc9. 10. 2022 16:50:12
Yesterday around noon with the dog I start from Lučka Bela and in an hour and a half reach the junction near Vratca, from where I head along the transverse path under Lastovec. We tackle the traverse extremely cautiously and our path in the first part passes without incident, until we reach the spot where the game trail empties into a pocket behind which we find ourselves before a steep grassy section that we have to climb to reach the continuation of the path, which a few minutes ago was clearly visible up there somewhere, from our position the passage up is not obvious. Opala ...

A few-minute pause brought a sober thought that with the dog we have nothing to seek in that grassy steepness and so we turned back, thinking we're going home. On the return from the pocket though we experience a pleasant surprise - just a little above the entrance to the pocket hides (or rather doesn't hide at all) the real continuation of the path. We decide to continue and soon reach the cave with the "možic" - shepherd's hat and shortly after the branch of the path over Grofov štant. We continue along the transverse path through the beautiful slopes of Lastovec, which I was convinced yesterday are the most beautiful corner I've ever discovered in the mountains, the grasses in autumn colors in the afternoon sun colored the whole slope in golden shades and silence reigned, so typical for autumn afternoons in the mountains.

After some traversing we reach the planina (Lastovka?) with burnt dwarf pines and continue north. We reach the top of Deska, descend to planina Vodotočnik and soon turn onto the path to Lučka Bela.

On the whole tour we didn't meet a single soul. The transverse paths around Lastovec due to exposure I wouldn't dare recommend to everyone and not every dog. Parts of the described tour are such that I wouldn't want fog or darkness to catch me there.
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