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| ursula10007519. 05. 2015 20:03:29 |
Hello!
This summer we plan to go to the mountains in Italy.
I'm curious about the prices for overnight stays in Italian mountain huts. Is a reservation mandatory?
Probably no discount with our PZS.
For starters, I'm interested in prices in the Viševa group and in Dolomiti di Brenta.
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| jax19. 05. 2015 21:11:23 |
Prices are around 40-50 euros for half-board. Overnight stay alone is much cheaper (10-15 euros), but you surely have to pay extra to be allowed to eat your own food. And of course - in Italian huts it's worth taking half-board. You eat like a king.
Regarding the PZS discount, they generally recognize it, but surely only in huts run by CAI (Italian alpine association). Western Julians are OK regarding this, as it's a relatively little-visited mountain area and likely all huts are under their management. So, they will probably grant the discount there. As for the Dolomites, they are much more visited mountains and most huts there are private. Those may recognize the discount - more often they don't. There are also some CAI huts where you should get the discount. Unfortunately, I don't remember which ones specifically. As for reservations - they are of course not mandatory, but in the Dolomites very very recommended. Huts at key locations are almost certainly full on nice summer days.
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| ursula10007520. 05. 2015 20:24:16 |
Thanks for the quick reply.
Rough prices suffice to roughly calculate how much to take with us.
So most hikers in Italy take half-board?
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| jax20. 05. 2015 22:45:08 |
From my experience, yes. (you know, Italians - just to eat well  )
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| viharnik8. 08. 2015 20:23:55 |
Today's POP TV piece was a pleasant insight into our mountains, a bit less on the overcrowding of shared dorms and hustle in huts.
That winter Gorenjska food, after so many years, our people could finally reduce it on the menu and supplement with lighter summer options (more salads, desserts, bio snacks, fruit cups for example, if there's no ice cream). Foreigners are used to quality food items, and probably also original teas. I think we lack originality, creativity, and listening to the larger number of people coming to us from various parts of Europe. I won't talk about prices; for me, it's worth paying only if a good plate in front of me delights me with the friendliness of the hut keepers. In summer vacation days, tourist workers want to make the most of the given time for earnings, but regular vacationers from e.g. Germany know exactly where they will go, with already known prices in Austrian mountains and the corresponding tourist-hospitality offer. That old saying "a loud voice reaches the ninth village" still holds true for all things.
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| janez.novak9. 08. 2015 17:01:43 |
Just as a mention: in Zacchi, Corsi and Brazza huts conditions are not as ideal as in Carnic Alps (except Zacchi, which is a new hut); for comparison, in Zacchi 0.4 beer is 4 EUR, altitude under 1400 m.
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| VanSims29. 08. 2015 11:05:17 |
For comparison, let me say that in the Dolomites 0.4 beer is 4 EUR, in the valley (Cortina, Arraba, Canazei, ...) lowest price. In the hut 5 EUR. OK, those are Dolomites, otherwise in Trbiž 0.4 beer 3.60 EUR.
I mean, abroad valley prices are higher than ours, huts not much higher than in the valley.
In Corsi they offer you a 0.5 l bottle of Laško for 5 EUR. Then you bulge your eyes or look a bit dumb and they already offer you the small one, also 0.5 l and also Laško for 3 EUR.
Italians...
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| viharnik29. 08. 2015 12:50:13 |
Spring water is almost no different, even healthier because hops are always sprayed and never fully rinsed after harvesting.
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| VanSims29. 08. 2015 12:52:24 |
I know, but after the tour beer tastes soooooo good!
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| Kozorog30. 08. 2015 22:49:41 |
Interesting, recently I was in Austria.... Sleeping 13 euros in a 4-bed room (bedding included, not charged separately!!), of course heated rooms, half price for youth... Beer a bit less than 4 euros... food somewhat more expensive than at home ca. 20 to 30% but portions much larger than at home. No smell from toilets and they have hot water... Tap water is drinkable!!! Staff friendly and helpful... hut altitude approximately like our Kredarica... Everyone should make their own picture and comparison between abroad and our robber PZS.
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| Trobec31. 08. 2015 11:42:16 |
@Kozorog, water is just as drinkable as in our huts... it just seems that in Austria there's a lower probability that someone would call the inspection or even sue over suspicion that due to the hut water they fart a bit more. I mean, since I go hiking in the mountains I drink water from our huts, and I've never had any issues.
Otherwise, what I experienced this year abroad:
Wangenitzseehütte (2508m, supplied by cable car): sleeping on shared bunks 15€ (group leader free), food 5-14€ (schnitzel with side and salad 14€), beer 3.80-4€
Rifugio Coldai (2132m, supplied by cable car): sleeping on shared bunks 10€, beer (0.4l) 4.5€, red wine 9€/l, food from 6€ upwards (schnitzel with side 13€)
Rifugio pozabilime (under Civetta, ca. 2980m, supplied by cable car), beer 0.5l 5€, 0.66l 6€.
Interestingly, in Italy in the valley beer is even more expensive. For example, in a tavern in Forno di Zoldo (under Civetta) 0.5l is 5€
As for half-board in Italian huts... dinner is really royal, breakfast so-so. Main problem is that breakfast is late, usually only from around 6.30 onwards.
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| VanSims31. 08. 2015 15:40:26 |
Yeah, yeah get used to expensive beer in Italy. But puffed-up typically Italian as if they were at least Bavaria if not Czechia for beer (in both beer is cheaper). Though one has to say, the stereotype of Italian beer as swill doesn't really hold.
In Austria both in the valley and in huts beer 0.5 is 3.XX EUR. Practically never exceeds 4. In Italy 0.4 (so not even proper beer, half-liter mug they don't even know) beer you barely get in the valley for 4 EUR and even that you have to shop around prices. And wonder what you see: up to 7 EUR and more for some rich 0.3 or 0.4 portion. I mean, are tourists really that stupid...
And half the time you have to watch: In Arraba it said on the menu 0.4 portion 4 EUR. Then she wanted to charge me 4.5. Good I wanted to pay before drinking. I said nicely 'Grazie' and went to the neighbor across the street who had it actually for 4 EUR. And he had the only ice cream in that godforsaken place.
Italians are idiots for beer, masters for ice cream, hats off there. Prices like at home 1.10 - 1.30 per scoop. Scoops not overly large but still nice, taste divine (aware of course full of E's ).
And while Germans and Austrians hats off for beer they are idiots for ice cream. Taste, well good ones exist yeah, but also very bad. Won't forget in Borovlje how ice cream lady tried to give me smallest possible scoop and even pretended polite smile. Mainly hard to find, while in Italy in every village.
Yeah can be even worse. Vogesi, this year! French idiots for both. Beer prices and portions Italian and France not some big beer country either, ice cream hard to get, well scoops ok solid, price hmm usually around 1.3 -1.5 EUR. Yeah, ok but where they have it always get menu with all flavors they offer, that yes!
Good that in Guebwiller (Alsace) only open around 21-22h were Chinese. Got both. 
@Trobec: Italian breakfast is café and brioche, you should know that! Yeah, just in morning when you need proper food. Shame it's like that also in mountains where you need stronger food.
When I traveled Italy with interrail, won't forget hostel in Sicily: breakfast was croissant, two slices toast, coffee from machine 0.5 EUR per cup. No spread, let alone cheese or salami. Breakfast in hostel in Padova: "Oops, only one slice bread per person" Usually at least two if not buffet breakfast which is almost norm now in Germanic countries and France too. Also in hostels. And in huts! Well in Italy exception apparently South Tyrol: nice buffet breakfast in Rifugio Lavarella!
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| VanSims31. 08. 2015 21:46:15 |
@lizika: "What the heck, why some go abroad"
Some go shopping to Trieste or Klagenfurt. And even now when all that is already here. But sounds so posh and nice if you buy same thing there or in that "plebeian" City Park. Regardless that in my rare cross-border shopping proportionally bought more junk than at home. Austrians know how to palm off stuff. Not at market or flea market, but in official store!
Who goes to City Park listen to people's talk. At least some 20% speak former main language of SFRY or its yuppie variant. Doubt that anything they buy can't be bought in Zagreb too.
Or when neighbor asks: "Where did you buy that dress?" "Well in Ljubljana at BeTeCe!" "There?! Wow how nice!"
If instead of BeTeCe was Westgate: " There....   You know my wife shops in Ljubljana at that City Park, there everything nicer, higher quality..."
So, people go abroad for various reasons. Legal and legitimate!
Bread? What bread? Toast is bread for you? Brioche? Both industrially packed, so no worry,... Really, not kidding, two pieces (actually bits) of double toast nicely packed...
No, as for foam Italians are fair... Comes nicely to that 0.4 mark! Have to say that. And to their credit: often serve free chips or similar.
Coffee is problem. Espresso is spit, Doppio is two spits. Then you say: 'dopio and also lungo' three spits.
Bright exception: Passo Falzarego. Say, dopio and lungo and get coffee filled to brim. Eyes popped out. Possible??? In Italy. And really damn good.
Ah, at Passo Falzarego, when I get out of car, one approaches: "Slovene?" (plate), "Yes!", "Signature against drugs!" At 2000 and some meters! Can't believe where this gang crawls. Then go drink that coffee inside and back to car to prepare for ascent (Lagazuoi Piccolo) again: "Come on one signature!". Unbelievable! Bit scared in what state find car after tour cause ignored him, with Italians never know!
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| sla1. 09. 2015 07:41:20 |
Ooh, ooh.... You guys get it - in Italy they drink wine (red), in Austria beer. But good (and plentiful) dinners in Italian huts.
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| VanSims1. 09. 2015 16:25:00 |
Then coffee isn't drunk much in Italy either?
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| sla2. 09. 2015 08:34:22 |
Disgusting coffee isn't drunk anywhere!
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| lino2. 09. 2015 20:01:36 |
Sla, excellent description "Disgusting coffee". I too sometimes have bad luck and hit that taste. Regards!
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| viharnik2. 09. 2015 20:49:32 |
Homemade Turkish coffee with some farm milk isn't that bad
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| miri2. 09. 2015 20:54:15 |
What I carry with me in the "rucksack" is enough for me.
I'm "hungry" for views of peaks and cirques.
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| keber12. 09. 2015 22:18:38 |
So much talk about prices in Italy, but VanSims forgot the most important: In Italy you don't get food except sandwiches between 3 and 6 pm (plus minus hour), not even in the busiest mountain huts like say Tre Cime. Otherwise food in these huts quality-wise usually at least one level, better two, above ours, often at level of better restaurants at home. We pound ričet, jota. And how homemade sausage.
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